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ZERO
07-20-2011, 07:53 PM
Just wanted to give you all a heads up on what valve is up to:

A near-future update (not necessarily the next one) will change the way that framerate is handled in the dedicated server. All users, especially those with very low pings, should receive a smoother gameplay experience with less jitter and more consistent-feeling latency.

Another effect of these changes is that all Orange Box (TF2, CS:S, etc) dedicated servers will run with a locked framerate, similar to L4D/L4D2. The fps_max convar will not have any effect on servers. (It remains as a client option since limiting your FPS can reduce GPU heat and overall power consumption.)

Although we don't normally give notice before updates, this is a potentially disruptive change for the server rental market, so those who currently charge premiums for "higher framerates" should probably start considering their options now.

Evil
07-20-2011, 07:59 PM
hopefully these updates will make the servers faster and smoother. that's what it seems to say there. :)

acolyte_to_jippity
07-20-2011, 08:27 PM
Fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

B1ackOut
07-20-2011, 08:31 PM
how low is "low", like 20 or will players with 60ish ping still be good?

Evil
07-20-2011, 09:07 PM
gonna be shitty for player with 110+ pings XD

Steamer
07-20-2011, 09:22 PM
That would be 30 FPS for L4D/2... Hope it's at least 66...

Lower reg. Higher lerp.

20 is considered low.

StarsMine
07-20-2011, 09:32 PM
is it updated now? I just played and it was laggign like a bitch (only GG was working and 2-4 people were playing, I won of coarse)

Osage
07-20-2011, 09:38 PM
should help me out, i've been getting very inconsistent fps readings (anywhere from 10 all the way up to like 150), although with my intel hd graphics card this is hardly surprising. new computer and isp on the 26th though so I'm excited.

StarsMine
07-20-2011, 09:42 PM
Osage I will build you a new computer with no commission just to get you off of intel graphics -.-

Steamer
07-20-2011, 09:57 PM
Don't confuse your fps with server side (n)fps. (Which is why I edited my post... =P)

+1 for the peeps with shit PC's.
-1 for the ones with good ones.

This update is all about more user's, an "averaged" playing field, stability if the server was hopping frames all over, and less stress on the "bad" servers.

This article sums it up pretty good.

http://www.moreal.org/articles/fpsund.php

Now, Valve, please work on netcode alg's.

StarsMine
07-20-2011, 10:12 PM
All servers downwa

Joker
07-20-2011, 10:47 PM
thank you valve for just fucking me over.........because I'm building a kick ass computer right now, but now it will be almost pointless lol ffs

StarsMine
07-21-2011, 12:26 PM
I Really hate this update, I dont mind helping the lower end computers, but this really nerfed those who had nice computers, I lag more now even though my ping hasnt changed all that much.

acolyte_to_jippity
07-21-2011, 12:28 PM
give it a week. someone will make a mod/plugin that reverses this.

ZERO
07-21-2011, 01:17 PM
The update has not even taken effect... it is coming within the next few weeks. I think it is actually meant to solve the issue you just described. :wtg:

acolyte_to_jippity
07-21-2011, 01:39 PM
The update has not even taken effect... it is coming within the next few weeks. I think it is actually meant to solve the issue you just described. :wtg:

what if we LIKE having 200+ fps?

StarsMine
07-21-2011, 01:44 PM
The update has not even taken effect... it is coming within the next few weeks. I think it is actually meant to solve the issue you just described. :wtg:
Then its whatever happened last night an hour before the servers went down :/, something just seems off.

ZERO
07-21-2011, 04:21 PM
Oh we have been under continuous DOS attack for over a week now... hence the down times...

StarsMine
07-21-2011, 04:42 PM
So they hear about you going on vacation and then attack? Bullshit thing to do. I just wanted to play some CSS when I got home from 10 days in SD :/

acolyte_to_jippity
07-21-2011, 04:58 PM
Oh we have been under continuous DOS attack for over a week now... hence the down times...

wtf?

why didn't you tell us?

Steamer
07-21-2011, 06:42 PM
what if we LIKE having 200+ fps?

You will still have YOUR 200 fps.

ZERO
07-22-2011, 01:30 PM
I did not say anything about the DOS b/c there was a lot of other stuff going on at the same time. In addition most early measures of defense were effective at restoring service quickly. It became clear after a few days that the problems were from a DOS attack and not some sort of internal network misconfiguration.