Slipstream 09-21-11 21:27

[slipstream]

Name in Game: Slipstream (most of the time)
Steam-ID: STEAM_0:1:24259836
Who banned you: Maynard
When:09-21-11 21:27
Where:was not on any server at the time
Why banned:because I have player skins for cts and ts
Link to ban:LINK (http://www.ibisgaming.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0%3A1%3A24259836+&Submit=)

Other/Reason to unban: Notice to change them in advance before any ban would be nice, don't even have the balls to just ask I guess. Didn't realize realize this was CAL, not allowed to change player skins, and really they are only coloured, they do not glow in the dark.


using illegal skins 2 gain an unfair advantage.
Unfair advantage? Use the skins then say that, otherwise you have no idea what you are talking about. If they gave me an unfair advantage, I would be racking in the the zombie tags.

Threads pointless, but whatever, I did nothing wrong.

[ChrisYoung]

u tight dude got banned by maynard :wtg:

[maynard]

actually they make it so you can see invis zombies, and that aside you go into GG also and it helps you prevent tking and knowing when 2 shoot or not just simply based on a obvious color. also makes it easier 2 see people at a distance and tell if they are your team or not...

I laugh at you if you really are going 2 try and claim you get no advantage outta using that...

[Rezel]

As Maynard said, it gives you a brighter color so you can see people easier, it also shows dark zones where a person might be hiding for a SHORT time.

In fact, Why don't I go into gun game whenever you play and paint the enemy a bright red so you can see them better.. Its basically what your skin is doing.

[Spasm]

Didn't realize this way CAL? Maybe you didn't read the rules, here let me help:
-RULES

I. Hacking
4) The use of changed textures and or sounds to gain unfair advantage

That is the rule you are breaking.

"In fact, Why don't I go into gun game whenever you play and paint the enemy a bright red so you can see them better.. Its basically what your skin is doing. " - Spot on Rezel.

I find it absolutely hilarious that you dug yourself a grave with your constant bitching, lmfao.

[Penis シ]

Just checked the ban, it is a perma ban.


Here's my take on the whole thing.


4) The use of changed textures and or sounds to gain unfair advantage
A) no scope skins, changed ingame sounds to gain advantage, look for prefire


There is no rule on a specific that says he can't have team bound skins...yet. And I think that we need it.


Do I think this deserves a perma ban? Yes. Do the rules completely cover it right now? No. Should they? Yes.


Just wanted to throw this in in case Zero goes over it to say that I think this needs to be an amendment.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

lol. i was wondering when someone would point it out. suprised it never happened in the original thread. just proves that nobody actually reads slipstream's crap.

http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/7248-crouch-vent-spots
(http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/7248-crouch-vent-spots)(for reference)

[maynard]

??? what you talking about penis.

4) The use of changed textures and or sounds to gain unfair advantage

the rule strait up covers it. he changed a texture for an advantage.

[Spasm]

I was going to but it was closed already priest.

[Rosie]

Who banned you: Maynard
Notice to change them in advance before any ban would be nice, don't even have the balls to just ask I guess.

Is disrespecting a Clan member all you could think to do? Wow you are a sad, sad soul.



For the record, best ban in my year on IBIS. Maynard first drink is on me.

[Penis シ]

Well, no. I'm saying that in the same manner, we had the moment on player model hacks, it's essentially covered, but for clarity, I think the two seconds of typing it is worth it.


I agree with the ban, and think the rule covers it well enough, but for player clarity I think it is something to consider.


Other than that, no dispute, really.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Well, no. I'm saying that in the same manner, we had the moment on player model hacks, it's essentially covered, but for clarity, I think the two seconds of typing it is worth it.


I agree with the ban, and think the rule covers it well enough, but for player clarity I think it is something to consider.


Other than that, no dispute, really.

clarity is already there. like, i'm not entirely sure how you could get any more clear. no skins that confer advantages. we only caught this fucktard because he posted a screen showing them.

[slipstream]

Just to clarify for the stupid.

skins refer to player/weapon, model types
texture refers to world/props, self explanatory

So when I read the rules, texture implies not changing textures to something for example, that of a texture arena, the orange blocks, that would make seeing everyone extremely easy.

Zombie skins are not affected either maynard (always think retard when i see his name), guess you would know that if you had any common sense. Have you gone into the camouflaged zombie files? They are not vtf files, they are something completely different, something I know nothing about. There are vmt files, but I don't know how to alter those or what they are for, never bothered with them.

Hey look what I found.
http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/6687-team-attack-prevention?p=109821#post109821
My very first post, guess what, it is a link to the skin downloads.

1) The skins act the EXACT same as normal skins when dealing with lightning conditions, they are actually worse in the dark on gungame because both teams now look the EXACT same, a really darkish purple colour. These are only good in well lit areas.

2) They do not glow in the dark.

3) They were meant for gungame only, the contrast of blue and red is enough to help prevent team attacking on maps with good lighting, darker maps shit still happens, but there is always the radar anyway.

Don't really care about being perma banned, seems kind of stupid considering all the other shit that goes on by other people, but what ever, at least now I know for sure that maynards a dumbass, and w/e the hell hallwanger called him on zmod yesterday. I know a server that will get a good laugh over this ban for sure, might be a bit too racy, blade knows, 70.42.74.32:27015 (smuT). They will laugh when they find out I am banned on IBIS, then make fun of how shitty the servers are anyway. Oh, and they know about my skins, and could care less, they don't help as much as retard believes them to.

[Penis シ]

I remembered this thread, didn't realize that it was slipstream that started it.

http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/6687-team-attack-prevention?highlight=player+skins


Anyway, he obviously had a misunderstanding of the rules, but was never told that it was against the rules.

That's why I'm posting in defense of the whole clarity clause.

[maynard]

he claims that he gets no advantage from these skins on his first post on this thread... and then you post this thread where the title is "team attack prevention" ...now that's some funny shit.

what a liar.

also, even if it doesn't change the invis zambies... it's still giving you other advantages as you clearly state in your "team attack prevention" thread Lawl...

you stay banned till zero's involved as you're a cheater, and a liar.

[brett friggin favre]

i understand the rules, i know they exist for specific reasons, but i do feel a perma ban is excessive and this is why:

it's an easy thing to fix. just uninstall the skins. now the rule has been specifically and explicitly described and a point made. it seems to me that Slipstream was not KNOWINGLY and PURPOSEFULLY gaining an advantage through these skins, and i believe that part in the rule (knowingly and purposefully gaining an advantage through the use of skins) is implicit in the definition of the rule. accidental breaking of the rules should never be punished by anything more than a slay in my opinion, but a repeat offender displays deliberation in the rulebreaking activity, and in that case such a penalty as an extended/perma ban would be necessary. i don't know what this player has done in the past, and i'm not taking that into consideration. however from what i have seen on here, i think a perma ban is excessive. i know i haven't been here the longest, i know my input probably doesn't mean shit, but i had an opinion and i thought i'd share it.

@Slipstream: the models do give you an advantage over other players, whether you intend it in such a way or not. you should uninstall player skins for that reason, simply for fair competition. i would rather get shot by a teammate every now and then instead of having a guy obtain an advantage over me through the use of skins and i think 99% of the population here and elsewhere would agree.

[slipstream]

Hmmm, normally my threads get locked right away, and also don't get so many replies so fast either.

@brett
This is the first time my skins have ever been an issue on any server that I play on, and I tell everyone about them. The only advantage I have is finding out that lowering my resolution increased my fps dramatically. My aim is still bad, plus the radar shows where my team is anyway, and that helps prevent team attacking more than my skins.

[Disflux]

Even IF for some hypothetical reason it would be found that the skins you changed weren't giving you an advantage, I think that a perma-ban in the case of Slipstream is still warranted, especially after showing the way he treats Clan members in this thread, and also for the multiple moments of admin disrespect. IMO, slipstream is a plague on the IBIS servers and seemingly is only here to cause problems.

No offense to you on a personal level Slipstream, but 3/4 of the threads you made for admin abuse threads, and other threads for that matter, are due to you receiving some form of punishment because you were unable to use the rules to your favor. To me, you saying that you weren't using these altered skins for your own advantage is inconsistent with the way you have acted previously, and from that I would conclude that they ARE advantageous to you in some way, even if you won't say so explicitly.

[Osage]

Hmmm, normally my threads get locked right away, and also don't get so many replies so fast either.

@brett
This is the first time my skins have ever been an issue on any server that I play on, and I tell everyone about them. The only advantage I have is finding out that lowering my resolution increased my fps dramatically. My aim is still bad, plus the radar shows where my team is anyway, and that helps prevent team attacking more than my skins. that's like saying "this is the first time my aimbot has been an issue in any server" LOL

[Pl@YwithM3]

Zombie skins are not affected either maynard (always think retard when i see his name), guess you would know that if you had any common sense.

kay, regardless of whether youre right or wrong in the place of this thread? youre insulting a clan member and calling them a retard. that itself is like -50 for you.

as far as im aware: it goes


Zero
Clan Members <-- here is maynard
Upper Admins
Admins
IBIS Community Players <--- here is you


KNOW YOUR PLACE

[Penis シ]

Wait, aimbots are a problem?


Oh shit, Zero, better reset my rank, guess I gotta do this the old fashioned way.

[slipstream]

Just hopped onto a Dogz gungame server, my skins don't work, hmmmm, forced skin use. So instead of a lame ass rule which can't be enforced at all unless you have a screenshot like mine, how about changing the server to use custom human models, same with the gg server, then there is no issue at all.

[Nemesis]

I have custom footstep sounds that last 30 seconds, and all my walls are textured to glass, will this be a problem?

[Penis シ]

Nope.

I mean, for other people, yes. But you suck at gg, so we're not really worried.

[maynard]

closed till zero reviews.