Mozart 2pm est 11/12/2012 STEAM_0:0:20632756

[alex_mamaroneck]

Name in Game: Mozart
Steam-ID:STEAM_0:0:20632756
Where: Ibis WCS server
Link to any previous bans: http://www.ibisgaming.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0:0:20632756&Submit
Reason to perma ban: Wallhacking possible aimbot
When: 2pm 11/12/11

PREVIOUS REQUEST:
http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/7638-Mozart-11-11-11-10-40am-11-45am-12-07pm-STEAM_0-0-20632756

MY DEMOS:
http://www.mediafire.com/?yv4d4w15kntaxdu

MOST OBVIOUS:
http://www.mediafire.com/?awm8vqd687kkudh

[mozart]

So when are people going to start voting :/

[SCRIBBLE]

Sorry for the delay, I just got back from my last vacation from work for a long time.

This is 3rd in line, I will get to it at some point tonight. Just a heads up.

[kenneth918237]

i agree whit alex on the wallhacks perma is in order

[CrazyHorse]

Someone write down some ticks from the demos as to when the 'obvious' parts are. There is only one that I know of, but that can still be attributed to him seeing something on his radar, and people can show up on radars for just a second when using abilities to teleport and such. It is funny that people are crying wall hacks without any real proof though. So do this properly and make sure everyone is aware of the parts of the demos where it might be considered wall hacking.

He doesn't aim through walls, doesn't look through walls, doesn't scan the map for people through the walls. He pre fires, but does it when no one is even behind a door or corner as well as when there is, but usually after someone has been camping in a spot. He does get killed by people when going around corners or going through doorways that any wall hacker would have known were there.

Uploading demos that show no wall hacking = stupid in my books. Uploading demos of people accusing someone in game of hacking while trying to catch them hacking = just fucking retarded. The only thing proved by the demos is that someone is an idiot.

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[taz1stP]

crazy give up if the whole community thinks hes hacking and u dont then most likely hes hacking.

[ShadedFlash]

crazy give up if the whole community thinks hes hacking and u dont then most likely hes hacking.
Unless, you know... Its Mozart/Mozart's friend and they're just trying to protect him.

[taz1stP]

i can tell.

[CrazyHorse]

No you can't tell, those demos show nothing. There is no proof, and I think it is lame for people to accuse others without adequate proof. If you can tell he is hacking, please elaborate a bit on how you came to that conclusion. I for one am baffled by the accusation. If you'd rather not say why you think he is, then again, you have no proof. I have watched the demos, just to say he is wall hacking without pointing to specific ticks in the demos, or even explaining how you can tell he is wall hacking without the usual signs of wall hacking, is lame, and makes you look stupid.

You don't ban people just because you think they are hacking, you have to have proof, and that is how ibis works, unless the rules have changed.
Prove it, explain the reasoning, OR stfu. Mozart is not my friend either, so that also makes you stupid for the assumption.

[Penis シ]

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4479

[brett friggin favre]

absolutely no hacks anywhere whatsoever.

it's called a radar. if a teammate sees an enemy, the enemy appears on it.

@mozart, sorry the upper level admins are busy right now, it'll take some time. thank god skyrim just came out.

and penis, that means nothing cuz fluffy was my first friend on here, and when i joined the forums there were ban threads up on both of us. we defended each other on our respective threads and neither of us was hacking. i'd be in the same boat with you if i hadn't been in a similar situation

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

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4479

Just because someone has befriended someone else on the forums does not disqualify them from a fair and (never speedy) trial.
Ill review the demo right now and return with a completely 110% unbias opinion on whether or not he is walling.

Not walling.

[taz1stP]

i think we should send the demo to steam and perm this guy and if hes not ban by steam after a year we can let him back XD

[CrazyHorse]

He added me, because I was defending him, someone I have never met.



Thanks

I can't comment on the fourm cause i just made the account, but can you tell me that with all the demos they made and i'm watching i don't see how they think i'm hacking.

That was what he pm'd me, he also sent a friend request with it at the same time, and I accepted it. I don't ever remember playing with him in game, he was just grateful that someone was smart enough to see he was not hacking based on the demos provided. If he hacks, get better proof, well get some proof in general, those demos suck ass.

[taz1stP]

man u really need to quit telling us that hes not hacking we got the point that u think hes not so let evryone else post what they think

[CrazyHorse]

You missed my point, which was, YOU NEED TO SAY HOW HE IS HACKING SINCE THE DEMOS SHOW FUCK ALL. If that is not clear enough for you, then you're hopeless.

@taz1stp specifically
Since the last 2 threads you started were admin abuse threads, and they were both considered completely fucking useless and stupid by everyone, and from what I read, most of your threads fall along the same lines as those 2, your opinion is pretty much invalidated. Just saying.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

To crazy: he isn't hacking calm down.

To taz: stop inadvertantly trolling on some ones ban thread.

To both of you, shut the fuck up.

[brett friggin favre]

i'd like to note that my defense of mozart should be somewhat significant because the first time i saw him in-game he rejoin exploited gg so that got me pissy...and i don't like his damn silenced usp. but clearly there are no hacks here and it's a case of qq taken too seriously.

[SCRIBBLE]

I do not see any evidence of walls.

[mozart]

Yes,thank god for skyrim :)

[Xerenix]

Don't close the poll for any reason as it's there so we know if any other upper admins or clan members shared their opinion on the matter.

I see no evidence of wallhack in the demos.

Ban overturned and Unbanning.

Closed.

[maynard]

........ spasm vote on the poll next time... or xerenix, which ever 1 of you didn't...

[Xerenix]

........ spasm vote on the poll next time... or xerenix, which ever 1 of you didn't...

I would have voted if the poll wasn't closed making it impossible for me.