This is not the first time

[aDarkPhilosophy]

So I am probably getting blacklisted for posting this, and I am sure nothing will happen to the offender, but I am sick of Nemesis doing whatever the f--k he wants to me. This has happened many times before, but on this particular occasion he rages because I don't weaken an opponent (Rated EC-10) to help give him the win, and instead waited (Nemesis blew himself up) before firing. The start of the next round he shot me down 28 health right as the round started. The start of the next round I left click him for 5 damage, and was immediately slayed, losing two levels. (see bolder text in the copy paste) This is not the first time he has team attacked me or slayed me for no justified reason, and I am getting sick of it.

Map: Texture_city_advanced
Time: Approx. 4:20 am 12/18/11
Abusing admin: |-Nemesis-| ibis.a
Complainant" aDarkPhilosophy
Player: aDarkPhilosophy - Damage Given
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Damage Given to "Bermanator" - 111 in 3 hits
Damage Given to "Rated EC-10" - 89 in 1 hit
Player: aDarkPhilosophy - Damage Taken
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Damage Taken from "world" - 17 in 1 hit
[hop]
WCS MOD+ - de_dust (3/21) [type !servers to join]
|-Nemesis-| ibis.a attacked a teammate
|-Nemesis-| ibis.a attacked a teammate
|-Nemesis-| ibis.a killed Bermanator with glock.
|-Nemesis-| ibis.a is tied with the leader on level 25
x4 attacked a teammate
Tony attacked a teammate
|-Nemesis-| ibis.a killed Rated EC-10 with knife.
|-Nemesis-| ibis.a has stolen a level from Rated EC-10
|-Nemesis-| ibis.a is leading on level 26 :: hegrenade
๖ۣۜGazela killed x4 with fiveseven.

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Tony killed ๖ۣۜGazela with p228.

You are on level
23 ::
usp
Player: aDarkPhilosophy - Damage Taken
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Damage Taken from "|-Nemesis-| ibis.a" - 72 in 5 hits
Damage Taken from "๖ۣۜGazela" - 15 in 1 hit
๖ۣۜGazela killed aDarkPhilosophy with deagle.
Player: aDarkPhilosophy - Damage Given
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Damage Given to "Bermanator" - 18 in 1 hit
Player: aDarkPhilosophy - Damage Taken
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Damage Taken from "Bermanator" - 50 in 2 hits
Damage Taken from "๖ۣۜGazela" - 210 in 2 hits
[Killer Info] ๖ۣۜGazela killed you with deagle at a distance of 0.6 meters and has 100 health and 100 Armor left
|-Nemesis-| ibis.a attacked a teammate
|-Nemesis-| ibis.a killed x4 with hegrenade.
[hop]
Assassination MOD+ - as_oilrig_wk (0/21) [type !servers to join]
|-Nemesis-| ibis.a killed Rated EC-10 with scout.
Tony has lost 2 levels by suicided
Tony died.

Want to join IBIS? Visit us at IBISgaming.com
*DEAD* Tony jeered!!!
Bermanator killed |-Nemesis-| ibis.a with m3.

You are on level
23 ::
usp
aDarkPhilosophy attacked a teammate
aDarkPhilosophy suicided.
Player: aDarkPhilosophy - Damage Given
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Damage Given to "|-Nemesis-| ibis.a" - 5 in 1 hit
[SM] |-Nemesis-| ibis.a: Slayed aDarkPhilosophy.
aDarkPhilosophy has lost 2 levels by suicided
๖ۣۜGazela killed x4 with p228.
Bermanator killed Tony with elite.
Bermanator killed |-Nemesis-| ibis.a with fiveseven.

[Nemesis]

Your constant disrespect has become an issue, I've let it go for a long time and that was probably a mistake, as now you think you can get away with it.

As i told you in the server, thought you were a T, they're shifty like that. Also, i was tired of you attacking me at the start of rounds, so i slayed you.

The tirade you started after that probably warranted a ban, but I knew you were under stress from dealing with your handicapped child, so I let it go.

But I'm not sure how much longer that will be allowed to happen, it sets a bad example.

So let this be a warning that your behavior wont be tolerated and bans will be issued.

[aDarkPhilosophy]

I have not disrespected anyone that didn't deserve it, and at no point is be being a "terrorist" plausible right as a round starts. You are simply lying to cover up your actions, which I figured you would. I attacked you the one time, AFTER you emptied a clip into me the round before. You have done so on many occasions. I understand this is a he said/he said situation, and many of the admins will side with you out of loyalty/friendship/desire to keep you paying money for admin, but that doesn't change the facts. And talking shit about my daughter, which you know nothing about, is really mature. Certainly behavior that warrants my resp.....nope, can't even finish that statement. My tirade was simply pointing out that you are a scumbag, as a person. I have listened to you for over a year now" nigger this, fag that. "ohh you killed me, way to have a shitty computer." and other such nonsense. And when a game doesn't seem to go your way, you bail.

And for the record, my daughter is 18 months old and is the developmental equivalent of a 26-30 month old in her mental/physical growth.

[Xerenix]

I know i have no buisness with this but Dark, Put up a demo of the said abuse instead of chat log otherwise it can't be proven that he abused.

http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/6434-Links-to-Demos

Go to this link, then Gungame then find the map and date/time of the abuse and download the demo, view it and write at what tick it started then attach the demo here while posting the tick. If Nem was abusing, he will be dealt with.

[maynard]

someone post the demo by tonight or I'm closing it. more proof is needed 2 determine what really went down.


I have not disrespected anyone that didn't deserve it

that in it's self basically tells me that you insulted him and broke the server rules.... just cause you're mad, disagree or are pissed off at someone doesn't mean you need 2 insult them, talking like an adult always works... also prevents you from getting in trouble if things escalate...

[aDarkPhilosophy]

I will find the demo when I get home from work, which will be 1:30am central time. that's the best I can do.

[maynard]

as long as I know you're going 2 throw some more evidence up, I have no probs waiting.

[Nemesis]

Let's see if i did this right.

Alright, look at the end of the map, as soon as I get the nade kill and the regulars leave. Here you will find an example of disrespect, it continued on for the next map or so but this should be good enough.

[maynard]

well you can't fuck with him for something he said previously... when you take action on someone it has 2 be for what they currently did, you can't be like "last map you called me so and so and cause I'm now mad at you, I'm gonna ban you at this point... as opposed 2 when it actually happened.

if him being rude carried over into the next map and he continued 2 disrespect you then obviously some sort of punishment is fine... but showing the demo of him continuing 2 mess with you would be better then showing a demo of him insulting you once and you doing nothing regarding it.

[Nemesis]

wait, so him being belligerent for an entire map and then team attacking isn't worth a slay?

[maynard]

what I'm saying is, if next map is where the majority of disrespect and what not went down, that's the demo you should be posting.

[Nemesis]

ah, no it's pretty much the same, he left a few minutes after. I just posted that to show that i'm not exaggerating my claims, and that the slay was justified.

[aDarkPhilosophy]

So I tried to open the dem from the server, and it crashes and says gameinfo.txt in not in hl2 directory. This is my first time trying to use demos, so I am not sure what I need to do to open them, but I can point you to the file of the map in question. Any help on the matter would be appreciated, I know you wanted more evidence by the end of the day, and I would like to do so.And as for disrespect, I have been nothing but respectful to the admins that come onto the gg server, and most players too, except for nemesis. I don't believe that someone who acts the way he does deserves my respect. Using racist and ignorant terms so freely and without regard, using "your mom" jokes and other childish acts is not behavior I would expect from an admin. If that is a violation of server rules, I think I have misjudged the Ibis community. Offensive sprays are not ok, but racism and bigotry are? I would like to continue playing on the ibis servers as I enjoy the people and the game style alot, but if I have to choose between respecting nemesis and not playing, I guess my days are numbered.

[maynard]

demos need 2 be in your cstrike folder which is within the steam folder. you then open CSS, console and type playdemo demoname

[aDarkPhilosophy]

thanks, and how do I segment them to upload, unless you really want me to upload the entire map

[Nemesis]

thanks, and how do I segment them to upload, unless you really want me to upload the entire map

What you can do is get the times which you want and post them with the whole demo, that way it can be fast forwarded to specific events for an edited view.

[aDarkPhilosophy]

ok so I go to upload, and it does nothing. is there a file size limit. it says add file, then gives another window that lets you select for already uploaded, or add. I add, select my file and click upload file but nothing happens

[Rosie]

It will then upload the file. After that below the first box you will see the file with a checkmark. Select insert inline and boom goes the dynamite.

[aDarkPhilosophy]

4661

that's the whole map. The complaint lies at the end, probably 3-5min before the end of the map.

[Rosie]

After watching the video it went down pretty much as claimed. Nemisis kills himself with a nade at the end of a round. the next round he shoots Dark about 5 times. At the begining of the next round Dark left clicks Nem, and gets slayed for it. The only disrespect was after the round was over. After EC-10 wins Dark calls Nem a pussy for shooting him. Start the video at about 85000 tic. The acctual events occurs at around 90000. I would say it is abuse under the circumstance.

I have no idea what went on in the rounds prior, but there was no warning issued, and Nem you knew the knife was payback for you taking about 70 health from him. And do not even claim that you thought he was on the other team. Be a man and say yeah I did it.

[SHADY V1RU5]

:lmao: :plzdie:

[Nemesis]

After watching the video it went down pretty much as claimed. At the begining of the next round Dark left clicks Nem, and gets slayed for it.

Yup, as i said, purposeful team attacking is not allowed and it was dealt with. Multiple warnings had been issued in the past, but since this is an abuse thread and not an unban me thread, I dont have to provide any evidence, however i did anyways, what was provided was from different maps during the same session.

Other admins should keep an eye out on dark there, he has a poor temper.

[maynard]

Yup, as i said, purposeful team attacking is not allowed and it was dealt with. Multiple warnings had been issued in the past, but since this is an abuse thread and not an unban me thread, I dont have to provide any evidence, however i did anyways, what was provided was from different maps during the same session.

Other admins should keep an eye out on dark there, he has a poor temper.

you sould read all his msg, not just the first sentence...

[Nemesis]

you sould read all his msg, not just the first sentence...

I did. Dark's claim was that he was he was slayed for no reason, it has been shown that is was slayed for a reason, therefore no abuse occurred.

[maynard]

it seems like you're agreeing with rosie even though he said you strait up abused under the circumstances...... also that you attacked that kid first just 2 grief him... either way will look into this tomorrow.

[Nemesis]

it seems like you're agreeing with rosie even though he said you strait up abused under the circumstances...... also that you attacked that kid first just 2 grief him... either way will look into this tomorrow.

I agree with the observation, if not the conclusion. the evidence shows what happened and now we can finally get this thread closed.

[aDarkPhilosophy]

I think you are misinterpreting rosie's observation. you team attacked me first, with no warning or justifiable reason. and when I responded in kind (to a far less degree) you slayed me. I realize you are in a hurry to close the thread, and perhaps that is because you are, in fact, guilty as claimed. I have a bad temper, yes...I do not deny. I respond to the attitudes given to me. Most of my comments though are confusion and frustration over why I empty clips into people and do no damage. I have been disrespectful to other players, mainly when they are as such to me...though you are the only admin I have disrespected, but that is solely due to your unprofessional and disrespectful attitude towards me.

[Nemesis]

though you are the only admin I have disrespected, but that is solely due to your unprofessional and disrespectful attitude towards me.

That's cool, you don't need to like me, hell if you got cancer tomorrow I would probably laugh about it. you do have to respect the tag, however, and that's where you went wrong.

You admitted to purposefully team attacking, and you received a punishment, everything else is fluff.

[taz1stP]

correct me if im wrong the rule says respect everyone not just admin so you team attacking him broke a rule and him team attacking you back was payback for you which was also ageist the rule he calling you out was disrespect but you did misuse your powers.

[Nemesis]

correct me if im wrong the rule says respect everyone not just admin so you team attacking him broke a rule and him team attacking you back was payback for you which was also ageist the rule he calling you out was disrespect but you did misuse your powers.

you are wrong. If people were punished every time they accidentally attack someone we'd have empty servers. Hell we have the tk menu for a reason. He committed an action that was intentional and against the rules, and the rules dictate the punishment. also, retaliation to a wrong doesn't make the action right, but that's another issue.

[aDarkPhilosophy]

Accidentally? Check the demo man, you passed over 3 different ct's till you found me, then aimed for the head and shot 5 times. Which like the threads title implies, is not the first time you have done similar to me, this is just the last time I can put up with it without at least making an effort to have it stop, without being forced to leave a server I have been playing on for almost 2 years and like very much. I respect the tag, just not you, and personally I think you bring shame to said tag. Because of behavior like the demo, and how freely you use ignorant terms to insult people when things don't go your way. It's never "wow nice shot" or "good move!" and always "Fuc--ng Ni--er." or get a better computer...or some other crap that only sounds like you need cheese and crackers. But I will let maynard decide the verdict of this, and will respect his decision either way.

[taz1stP]

ok for the record i have played with both of you guys dark you do get mad easy but you also know when its time to quit. nem you dont do this shit when i play with you so wtf are you doing are you trying to end up like hall b/c you dont get along with one guy i mean guys if you want to shoot each other switch teams. problem will be solved then. but i think that we should make this dont do this shit again thing or something will happen type case. but next time if look before you shoot and the game has radar for a good reason look at it.
thats just my 2 cents on this matter. not that it really matters just thought i would put them in XD

[Nemesis]

Accidentally? Check the demo man, you passed over 3 different ct's till you found me, then aimed for the head and shot 5 times. Which like the threads title implies, is not the first time you have done similar to me, this is just the last time I can put up with it without at least making an effort to have it stop, without being forced to leave a server I have been playing on for almost 2 years and like very much. I respect the tag, just not you, and personally I think you bring shame to said tag. Because of behavior like the demo, and how freely you use ignorant terms to insult people when things don't go your way. It's never "wow nice shot" or "good move!" and always "Fuc--ng Ni--er." or get a better computer...or some other crap that only sounds like you need cheese and crackers. But I will let maynard decide the verdict of this, and will respect his decision either way.

Shit happens, hell I think you were even there when i was talking about the radar glitch, and even if you weren't, plenty of people were and it's on record. No one else seems to have a problem with the way I play, some people need time to get used to it, but everyone can usually have a good time, except for you. Everyone is usually having a good time and you come in and just start bitching, killing the atmosphere and taking the fun out of the game. If you would stop creating trouble I'm sure everyone would get along better.



ok for the record i have played with both of you guys dark you do get mad easy but you also know when its time to quit. nem you dont do this shit when i play with you so wtf are you doing are you trying to end up like hall b/c you dont get along with one guy i mean guys if you want to shoot each other switch teams. problem will be solved then. but i think that we should make this dont do this shit again thing or something will happen type case. but next time if look before you shoot and the game has radar for a good reason look at it.
thats just my 2 cents on this matter. not that it really matters just thought i would put them in XD

I get along with just about everyone, Dark is the one who has a problem with me, and created this problem. His actions have been ban-worthy on multiple occasions, however by trying to work it out off the record seems like it's created more trouble for myself. Well next time everything will be by the book and we'll go from there.

[CrazyHorse]

So Nemesis takes 5 dmg at the start of a round and that deserves a slay.
But Nemesis shoots Dark dealing like 70 dmg and thinks it is ok?

Confusing. The demo shows Nemesis abuses, won't admit to it even though there is evidence, and claims the slay is for taking 5 dmg? It sure can't be for disrespect, how does one disrespect dirt anyway?

But this is what happens when you let anyone and their grandma buy admin. Give a douchebag a gun, and someone will be shot (just not the right person)

[Nemesis]

So Nemesis takes 5 dmg at the start of a round and that deserves a slay.
But Nemesis shoots Dark dealing like 70 dmg and thinks it is ok?

Confusing. The demo shows Nemesis abuses, won't admit to it even though there is evidence, and claims the slay is for taking 5 dmg? It sure can't be for disrespect, how does one disrespect dirt anyway?

But this is what happens when you let anyone and their grandma buy admin. Give a douchebag a gun, and someone will be shot (just not the right person)

If you're going to commen you need to learn how to read. You've been here for 10 seconds and have already pissed everyone off. You're a nobody. Please get cancer and go away.

[emTr0]

If you're going to commen you need to learn how to read. You've been here for 10 seconds and have already pissed everyone off. You're a nobody. Please get cancer and go away.

You really need to quit it with the cancer bs dude. You're racist, plenty disrespectful, apparently only follow rules when it suits you, and you've wished cancer on people (including my mother (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/7593-How-to-Play-Counter-Strike-1.6-de_dust2?p=119047#post119047)) more than a handful of times on the forums. Cancer isn't funny.

Did someone close to you die because of cancer or something? If so you most likely know the pain involved and should be mindful when wishing cancer upon others. If not, you're an ill-mannered douchebag of an assclown and don't deserve respect from anyone.

You get along with most people? Yeah, ok.

[Nemesis]

You really need to quit it with the cancer bs dude. You're racist, plenty disrespectful, apparently only follow rules when it suits you, and you've wished cancer on people (including my mother (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/7593-How-to-Play-Counter-Strike-1.6-de_dust2?p=119047#post119047)) more than a handful of times on the forums. Cancer isn't funny.

Did someone close to you die because of cancer or something? If so you most likely know the pain involved and should be mindful when wishing cancer upon others. If not, you're an ill-mannered douchebag of an assclown and don't deserve respect from anyone.

You get along with most people? Yeah, ok.

Lol at the guy who thinks his pointless posts and forum spam counts as enriching the community. No one knows who you are, and I'd your mother does get cancer that would be hilarious!

And yes most people. See not self righteous douche nozzles.

[emTr0]

Lol at the guy who thinks his pointless posts and forum spam counts as enriching the community. No one knows who you are, and I'd your mother does get cancer that would be hilarious!

And yes most people. See not self righteous douche nozzles.

And your inflammatory posts are better?

You continue to prove my point. Thanks!

[Nemesis]

And your inflammatory posts are better?

You continue to prove my point. Thanks!

Says the one flaming posts. Hope your mom suffers too, lol

[CrazyHorse]

Mind you, this is how nemesis acts when he is playing in the servers too. If a paying admin acts this way and demands respect because he bought admin, well for starters, he can kiss my ass, and secondly, no one should and probably doesn't anyway, show him respect deserved of an admin. He should never be allowed to punish anyone that shows him disrespect based on how he treats others.

And on topic, he still won't admit to it. Douche to the end I guess.

[Nemesis]

Mind you, this is how nemesis acts when he is playing in the servers too. If a paying admin acts this way and demands respect because he bought admin, well for starters, he can kiss my ass, and secondly, no one should and probably doesn't anyway, show him respect deserved of an admin. He should never be allowed to punish anyone that shows him disrespect based on how he treats others.

And on topic, he still won't admit to it. Douche to the end I guess.

Not a paying admin, nice try though. I get it for free.

[Steamer]

Thanks for the laughs.

Carry on.

*tosses a steak*

[brett friggin favre]

http://i.imgur.com/NqSZO.gif

[emTr0]

http://i.imgur.com/NqSZO.gif

Well damn, now our arguments are invalid.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

http://i.imgur.com/NqSZO.gif

jesus christ i'm saving that one

[CYBER]

Not a paying admin, nice try though. I get it for free.

wait what???? ... -.-


also regarding the abuse, im trying to be objective so people plz dont hold a grudge alright?
Both of you get really bad tempered in games, heck i get WORSE, and i bitch about the exact thing dark does, which is emptying a clip point blank in someone and only do like 20 in 7 -.-.

Regardless, keep any hate you have for eachother aside, each admining situation between a player and an admin is an instant "transaction".
You cant ban someone or even slay for something that happened in the past, you have to have the right reasons for that now.

Nem, im sorry man but u clearly seeked out dark to tk him first, breaking the SERVER rules,
Dark, your temper kicked in and decided to do a slash damage to nemesis, most likely as a "stop fucking shooting me" knife. but that also breaks the rules to a smaller degree, and then u called out nemesis with derogative terms, therefore you got slayed for it under the "admin disrespect" category ( i honestly think the "admin disrespect" thing should be revised and reworded so that not every guy who gets insulted randomly starts banning people just because he had a tag on... Admin disrespect is mostly used when the admin issued a command and he got disrespected while BEING AN ADMIN and monitoring the server, NOT as being a PLAYER... Nem u were a PLAYER in this situation, if the situation can be repeated exactly with u not having a tag on , then it is not worth admin disrespect. it has to be smthn directed to u AS AN ADMIN... not as a crappy player lol...just saying.)

Now the game ended,we're way past that, but to me it is obvious that nemesis , buddy, u abused ur admin there from pure rage.
It almost happened to me yesterday when a guy i slayed using the tk menu for tking me with nade, started team attacking me at the beginning of round with the glock for 90 dmg and getting me knifed once. I kicked him on the spot because it was OBVIOUS it was a regenge for slaying him, which i have the perfect right to do since he was on nade level. But i didnt slay him because he got to nade at that point and i didnt want him to lose levels. i kicked him, giving him a 1 round time out (i wanted to put him to spec but the game was too fast) so that he doesnt lose levels. As soon as he came back i told him " listen, sry for kicking ur ass but i hate being TKed on purpose, so either leave or finish your game." he apologized, And then we actually moved past that and played well on the same team again... it;s all about communication.. if u gonna be a douchenozzle 99% of the time, u are being an abuse thread magnet...

sry nem, but clearly abuse here sprouted from anger, i suggest u seek anger management class :P god knows i need it too hahaha.... start monitoring ur admin usage, rumour has it that players are being abused frequently by u, well at least, abused orally (lol) with your insults...and i can see this happening on the server if you are blatantly wishing someone cancer... 7 people from my family died from cancer, including my best friend.. it is NOT a joke. keep it clean, and stop using the word "nigger" ORIENTED AT PLAYERS, ive seen u do it myself, i wanted to tell u that before, that you cant use racist words AT people. but keep in mind man that i've played with u , and i have nthn against u , heck i enjoy raping ur ass in game, so dnt take this a grudge and just admit u fucked up (god knows i have been the victim of rage many times...) .

And dark, i'd try avoiding to piss off nem, u have a shitty temper? meh i do to , but it's one thing to rage at players every now and then, and being hated for it :P u have to get beloved by players every now and then... THEN rage at them:D like... well.. ME :smirk:

2 cents: abuse, a final warning should be issued with a possible stipping of powers or admin if this should repeat again. Nem has been here long enough to supposedly know the rules.

[SCRIBBLE]

Cyber just made this thread so much more entertaining. That giant wall of text I didn't read probably could have been summed up in one or two sentences.

I summed up his post with this:
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081222171126/uncyclopedia/images/9/91/Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooongcat.J PG

[Carmichal]

my mind... it has been blown

[CYBER]

yeah, call me the party pooper.
When i see that there is an endless discussion not going anywhere, i join in with an unreadable text so that people give up on the thread. And maynard knows to just skip mine because im doing this as a favor :P

i could have said : abuse, final warnin or powers removed. But where is the fun in that ? -.-
See? smart.

[maynard]

Abuse confirmed.

... not sure how you ever thought this wasn't abuse. you can't provoke people into doing something against you, and then hide behind the rules as if you did nothing wrong... more so when you started it lol... you clearly were griefing the kid.... stop it.

if he is being disrespectful, deal with it when it happens.. you don't get 2 save it for later.... nor is TK griefing an appropriate response...

warning issued, closed, resolved.