Need PC help so I can play with you fools again!

[Poker$tar$]

ok so I have been traveling, got a real job, have a girlfriend, been working out and being out doorsy bc of where I live, etc. So anyways I miss you fools and I want to play video games with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but my computer won't let me :( My PC won't boot at all. All it does is start at my motherboard screen after that it just goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor. I can access the bios but not safe mode. I havn't tried to boot my PC in like 3 months before that it worked fine. I can't even boot from the CDrom with my windows 7 disk. wtf o_0 I'm kind of scatter brained right now bc I have mono. And having mono means I need to play video games! Help me out fellow humans :)!!! exclamations are fun!!!

[Joker]

ok so I have been traveling, got a real job, have a girlfriend, been working out and being out doorsy bc of where I live, etc. So anyways I miss you fools and I want to play video games with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but my computer won't let me :( My PC won't boot at all. All it does is start at my motherboard screen after that it just goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor. I can access the bios but not safe mode. I havn't tried to boot my PC in like 3 months before that it worked fine. I can't even boot from the CDrom with my windows 7 disk. wtf o_0 I'm kind of scatter brained right now bc I have mono. And having mono means I need to play video games! Help me out fellow humans :)!!! exclamations are fun!!!
fucking bastard you need to come back it's been to long, I always had fun knifing you:smirk:

[ZERO]

Have you checked your boot order and that the proper boot device is selected in the bios?

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Have you checked your boot order and that the proper boot device is selected in the bios?

this.

sounds almost like your mobo's battery ran out, and you lost all your settings (including the boot order)

if the boot order is blank, you're not going to be booting into anything.

also, make sure your HDD and optical drives are still plugged in. no joke, it happened at me job last summer, the computer wouldn't boot and nobody could figure out why, but it was because IRT was in the process of upgrading/swapping components out of it, and had forgotten to plug in the hdd xD

[Poker$tar$]

Have you checked your boot order and that the proper boot device is selected in the bios?

yup. hmmmmmmmmm if the battery ran out tho it might be booting from the wrong Hard drive. Maybe those orders are messed up. And I reset all the plugs, ram, video card. Will the battery recharge with it being plugged in?

[acolyte_to_jippity]

yup. hmmmmmmmmm if the battery ran out tho it might be booting from the wrong Hard drive. Maybe those orders are messed up. And I reset all the plugs, ram, video card. Will the battery recharge with it being plugged in?

probably not. but check in your bios to make sure the boot order is right. you'll need to set the system time if the battery went

[Steamer]

If you moved it around at all, make sure all cards, RAM, and every other connector is secure.

I have had this problem before from a RAM stick knocked a bit loose. Bios post, all good, ect, black stuck screen after post.

As others said, check bios and boot orders also.

[Poker$tar$]

nothing worked that was mentioned...could my harddrive that is running the OS be bad? But the thing is, it won't even boot from the CDrom. Shouldn't it be able to boot from the cdrom with the windows disk? I dk if I said this before but the boot order was messed up, first priority was floppy, so im pretty sure the battery died on the mobo.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

nothing worked that was mentioned...could my harddrive that is running the OS be bad? But the thing is, it won't even boot from the CDrom. Shouldn't it be able to boot from the cdrom with the windows disk? I dk if I said this before but the boot order was messed up, first priority was floppy, so im pretty sure the battery died on the mobo.

then change the boot order back to having CD rom, then HDD.

[Poker$tar$]

then change the boot order back to having CD rom, then HDD.

Thats what I'm saying, it won't boot from CDrom. I have changed the boot order for every combination.

[Steamer]

Odd... Should be able to boot from cdrom if bios is posting and your ram is working....

What happens when you actually go to boot from the CD? Black screen thing again? Make sure the disk is actually bootable, also, try USB stick boot.

[Poker$tar$]

Odd... Should be able to boot from cdrom if bios is posting and your ram is working....

What happens when you actually go to boot from the CD? Black screen thing again? Make sure the disk is actually bootable, also, try USB stick boot.

yup, black screen with blinking cursor. And I have booted from this disk before to reformat my pc. I'll try USB stick boot, last time I tried that I couldn't get it to work correctly tho, I used cdrom instead.

[maynard]

a wild poker appears

[acolyte_to_jippity]

take the hard drive out, connect it to another computer, and check if you can either boot/access it

[Poker$tar$]

take the hard drive out, connect it to another computer, and check if you can either boot/access it

alrighty. I fell asleep at my computer "mono" and I was sweating balls. fml I just want to game! Why so much effort when I be sick :(

[ZERO]

He may need to reset the cmos jumper.

[Rosie]

I've never said hey to you before Poker, but if you still live in Boone, I can probally find you some kind of rig, or get your comp fixed free. I start App in the Summer, and I know you use to go there. If you do hit me up on Steam. Other than that I am always asking someone to troubleshoot, so I got nothing on this.

[Steamer]

He may need to reset the cmos jumper.

Old school pull out batter fix... lol. Newer mobo's usually have dual bios rom that is not volatile and will try and copy itself over leaving some nasty problems when a battery dies. ALSO, try and boot from CDROM without the HD plugged in, my bios actually copies itself to my HDD also in event of a catastrophe. HDD BIOS backups are a PITA to deal with though and have a high failure rate... Much easier to reflash.

Would you happen to have a Gigabyte mobo? Gigabyte has some well documented "black magic" bugs of not wanting to boot from a cdrom drive when bios gets corrupted... which in turn forces you to boot/recover from a usb drive with bios bin in root or sata cd drive with bios bin in root...

^DO THIS BOOT PROCEDURE BEFORE CLEARING CMOS! Gigabyte (idk about others) foolishly copies a backup in CMOS/HDD (dual chipped on newer models [bout time]) to use Q-Flash with. The issue sounds like more of a bin corruption than settings. Try and reflash with a CMOS backup before clearing it all-together.

*** Not responsible for your failed flash***

[Poker$tar$]

Old school pull out batter fix... lol. Newer mobo's usually have dual bios rom that is not volatile and will try and copy itself over leaving some nasty problems when a battery dies. ALSO, try and boot from CDROM without the HD plugged in, my bios actually copies itself to my HDD also in event of a catastrophe. HDD BIOS backups are a PITA to deal with though and have a high failure rate... Much easier to reflash.
I don't understand what you mean here, whats much easier to flash, the hard drive or reflashing in general?
Would you happen to have a Gigabyte mobo? Gigabyte has some well documented "black magic" bugs of not wanting to boot from a cdrom drive when bios gets corrupted... which in turn forces you to boot/recover from a usb drive with bios bin in root or sata cd drive with bios bin in root...

^DO THIS BOOT PROCEDURE BEFORE CLEARING CMOS! Gigabyte (idk about others) foolishly copies a backup in CMOS/HDD (dual chipped on newer models [bout time]) to use Q-Flash with. The issue sounds like more of a bin corruption than settings. Try and reflash with a CMOS backup before clearing it all-together.

*** Not responsible for your failed flash***


I have a gigabyte mobo with dual bios, it says it right on the mobo. um that kind of went over my head what you said, mostly bc I just woke up and I can't think straight after the drugs I just took. I need to re-read this a few times lol

can you help me boot from a usb drive? what all do I need to do? I have windows 7...what happens with a failed flash?

whats so wrong with clearing cmos?

[Steamer]

CMOS can hold a backup of your bios. Clearing it will destroy that backup. Take a usb stick, put bios bin in the main drive, no folder. Go to gigabytes website, find your mobo and dl the bios bin. They will also have all the info you need to learn how to use Q-Flash / w/e else and reflash your bios. Last time I updated I used the the bios tool from their site and new bin. Booted straight off the usb stick by pressing F8 @ bios to manually choose boot, loaded the flash app, picked bin, let it roll.

[mrhappypenguin]

I know my motherboard has two BIOS chips on the board, if the primary fails then it loads the secondary. Clearing the CMOS just sets the bios settings back to factory defaults. I've had to clear mine at least 10 times now from overclocking my system and having it not post at times.

What motherboard do you have? I'm using a GA-MA78G-DS3HP.

[ZERO]

Clearing the cmos does not just reset the default values but is more of a bios reformat which protects you against a corrupted bios. I have gotten corrupted bios many times as a result of strange crashes or the computer getting pissed over a failed boot rom. Just resetting the bios and then changing the needed settings is the fastest way to get your system booting again. :wtg:

Also for those of you that may have noticed there was an issue where the new post was not accessible in that the 3rd page was not loading. This was due to a database corruption created from the issues with the server a few days ago. I have repaired all thread data and the issue should be resolved now.

[Steamer]

The newer ones "should" auto recover. Check if your board is dual bios. One bios chip will say MAIN_BIOS, close near it will say BP_BIOS.

Unplug / Switch off PSU while Pressing and holding the power button until the system powers up and then back down. Press once to power up. Try a few times to make sure. If you have true Dual Bios, this should force it to boot from the second hardware chip and restore the original. A small beep should be a notification, not always though... If this doesn't work you are stuck in a loop of corruption. Clear CMOS, repeat.

Hope like shit that one isn't corrupt and if so, you have some flashing to do.

Go to Gigabyte and grab a bios bin that matches your mobo, extract zip and throw bin in the root of a thumb drive(must be formated fat32/16/12).
At the bios post press END or F8 in bios setting, this should load Q-Flash and take you onto the next steps and procedure of flashing that bin.

NEVER EVER use Windows based @BIOS

When you solve this problem, look into the Express Recovery solution from Gigabyte, it will save you some headaches later.

[Poker$tar$]

So I unplugged the main HDD with the OS on it, and it started loading the CDrom with Windows on it. Then it said some error about not being able to load the software and now it won't even load from the Windows disk again. And then I tried accessing the bios and the bios screen was blank. There were no options in it, sometimes it won't even load the Bios it will freeze at the gigabyte mobo screen. Do I have some sort of hard ware problem? And I don't have a USB stick at my parents house...I dk why. I have to go get one...I'm tired of this bullshit. Oh and my Cmos battery only has 2 prongs beside it...I can't think right now. Anyways can I just take the battery out and it will have the same effect as switching prongs to reset cmos? I dk if that makes sense...

[Steamer]

It is unknown to me atm if you have a hardware problem or just a corrupt bios. No, battery pulling will not have the same effect on most newer boards, as settings and bins are backed up into non volatile chips, which is what caused your problems to begin with.

Do the hard reset backup procedure that I explained. If this still doesn't work, your going to have to flash a bin from a floppy, usb stick, cd, hdd, or network.

What board do you have? Anywho, yes, those 2 pins should be the cmos clearing pins. It should have a tiny CLR_CMOS written near it (If more than two pins, you short the ones closet to the boldest mark), Turn off PSU or unplug, press the power button a lot to draw out remaining charge, wait 30 seconds, short for about 15 seconds, turn on psu, boot PC.

You may want to replace your CMOS battery...

[Poker$tar$]

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

I love you steamer. It worked, turned the power supply off and it restored the corrupt bios. MUAH* I'm so gay for you. ;) such an easy fix.
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fuck my fucking life, I was updating steam and then it crashed. I'm so pissed...it won't start back up again. It said something about system dumping or I dk...I was just like are you serious when it happened...now I can't get it to start back up. WTF?!?!?!?!?!

[ZERO]

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

I love you steamer. It worked, turned the power supply off and it restored the corrupt bios. MUAH* I'm so gay for you. ;) such an easy fix.
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fuck my fucking life, I was updating steam and then it crashed. I'm so pissed...it won't start back up again. It said something about system dumping or I dk...I was just like are you serious when it happened...now I can't get it to start back up. WTF?!?!?!?!?!

Wow, see how much time he would have saved if he just did what I said to start with. When you have problems loading your os or get bios errors just reset the cmos. I actually regret not installing a cmos reset switch on my system for all the times I have used that thing.

Also that is interesting the way you do it steamer after needing to reset that dam thing so often I started just flipping the power on the psu off, moving the jumper over, power the system on, and spam the power button a few times, then flip the psu off, then switch the jumper back flip psu on, and boot.

[Poker$tar$]

Wow, see how much time he would have saved if he just did what I said to start with. When you have problems loading your os or get bios errors just reset the cmos. I actually regret not installing a cmos reset switch on my system for all the times I have used that thing.

Also that is interesting the way you do it steamer after needing to reset that dam thing so often I started just flipping the power on the psu off, moving the jumper over, power the system on, and spam the power button a few times, then flip the psu off, then switch the jumper back flip psu on, and boot.


Yeah it worked for about 10 minutes and now I can't get it to start back up again. I don't have a cmos jumper, all I have are 2 prongs. I can't get it to freaking start back up again.................................gah! I take the battery out, put it back in. plug the power back in, flip the PSU off, spam the power button, flip psu back on and try and boot. nothing happens. Am I doing this wrong? WTF did I do the first time to work and why the hell did my computer crash?

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I don't see how it could be a hardware problem. I left it sitting for a few months, that's all. It just crashed randomly when I tried to open up google chrome, I know the program is not relevant. How do I get her rolling again? so sad, what a tease. I was so pumped to whoop some ass in WCS and GG :(

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

have you tried hitting it with a hammer?

[Steamer]

Unplug PSU, spam power button to remove remaining power, next you have to keep the power button held in until it powers up and down when ya plug in the psu.
This doesn't clear cmos, it loads the backup bios from your second bios chip.

Do that procedure, then make sure it loads and post's, manual shutdown, unplug PSU, spam power button again, wait 30 seconds, next take something conductive (be it a flathead, wire, w/e) and short the 2 pins for 15 seconds, boot pc normally, unshort. reboot.

Pulling the battery on these boards alone is not enough.

You may have held the button in the way you were suppose to the first time.

Seriously get another CMOS battery.

That blue screen may be a RAM error... Video ram or internal... Which would also kind of explain the problem.

Gigabyte boards are fucking finicky. The power switch on the psu works also lol. The whole process is just a failsafe. I do it the "unsafe" and "unrecommended" way myself lol. Hell, I even done it powered up and booted before, while shutting the psu off. xD I failed to mention unshort and reboot in my last post. oops... lmao

[Poker$tar$]

Um so you boot up with the pins shorted?

[Poker$tar$]

Fucking damnit. It was booting up windows then crashed. So I tried loading from my windows disk and it crashed again. heres what it says

"A problem has been detected and windows is shutting down to prevent damage to your computer. etc.

then at the bottom it says

***STOP : 0x0000001E (0xFFFFFFFFC0000005, 0xFFFFF80000D2BA2DE, 0x0000000000000000,0x00000000000000008)"

[acolyte_to_jippity]

technically, you're not really shorting it. you're actually jumping it. the difference is that normally you attach a jumper to the board, and here you're sticking the screwdriver in.

[Carmichal]

Show your pc who's boss, whip it out and piss on it!

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Show your pc who's boos, whip it out and piss on it!

boos?

and didn't mikey try something similar? with beer?

[Poker$tar$]

Alright, I keep updating this thread and being like it's running, it's not running, it's running. But apparently it's running now, I just know for how long. Any ideas on what I should do to keep it running? There is no restore point for it. Should I reinstall windows? Should I update windows?

[ZERO]

Very strange the jumper should be on motherboard when it boots normally and it should be on the clear cmos when that is what your doing. If your missing jumpers on your motherboard I question how many other things may actually be wrong here...

[Steamer]

Technically your not "jumping" shit, your completing an electrical connection, or flipping a switch. Shit should of been named "shorting pin"

A short circuit is allowing an electrical path to travel where it isn't really intended to. Just like in this case.

Zero, my board does not default with one in place either. They are the 2 pin set-ups not 3. Only time ya need a jumper for em is to clear.

Poker, re-installing windows wont fix the bios post problem. If not bad img bins in both chips, it is a piece of hardware. I'm swaying towards RAM.

[Poker$tar$]

lol its a good motherboard it's not like gigabyte jipped me on jumpers. Well it seems to be working now, I'm going to get on counterstrike in a minute, once this virus scan is over. I dk if I will be able to see anything on this shitty CRT monitor my parents have...lol thanks for the help guys. loves yah. hopefully I won't need anymore help.

steamer you the man

[Steamer]

Blowjob and a pizza. <3 :icon_mrgreen:

Also, those look like driver / windows errors. Reinstall / update all your drivers when you have time. Check in event viewer for errors sometime, just search eventvwr through windows, or administrator tools if you have them active.

[ZERO]

Perhaps he should F8 before the windows load to access the windows mem test.