Auto balance

[Driaken]

There really should be a autobalance for the server. i was just playing where the terrorists didn't even win a round the whole game. just seems unfair for the people stuck on the team where everyone isn't playing maxed races. autobalance could fixed a lot of that.

[maynard]

there is auto balance you just don't seem 2 understand what it is...

auto balance trys 2 keep the teams even, and by even I mean keeping the teams close 2 the same amount of players on each side....

that is what auto balance is...

what you're asking for is something that punishes the winning team, and forces there good players 2 the losing team in an attempt 2 make those who are playing shittyer have a better chance at winning... this does not exist nor will.

[Sin]

I remember PTB being the best team balance plug-in out there, but that was years and years ago. I'm sure there's something equivalent out there. Probably find something on the alliedmods forums.

When it comes to team balancing, it's all about competition right? Why would you want to stay on a team with decent people while the other team has a bunch of shitties on it? That's boring. Wouldn't you rather have evenly matched teams (skill-wise)? :D

[maynard]

you don't get better by being on the winning team.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I prefer being on the losing team as it is only forcing me to play better and improve my css abilities! At the end of the day you need to just deal with it. Balancing teams based off who is and isn't playing a maxed race won't work. What happens to people like me who have all the races maxed out..... Most people randomly join a team and if yours ends up being a bad team, that sucks, play better.

[maynard]

I always join T.

have for 13 years now in this game and always will.... I have no issues helping the losing team though if they really need it... but majority of the time, it's just the losing team is losing cause they simply aren't the better team... nor are working or playing as hard as the other, so I really have no sympathy for them.

every one wants 2 QQ in WCS... but never actually change there races or do anything productive 2 help their team... people will go "I'm gonna lvl this class today" and literally play that class all day lol... and then be surprised when they get pwwnd... and even after getting pwwnd still refuse 2 play a better race for the situation... it would be funny... if it wasn't a tale as old as time when it comes 2 wcs.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

It might just be me but it sure as hello seems Like the qqing upgraded to redundant. More www this past week then ever. Well post new wcs server.

[Sin]

You can't get better by playing in public servers either. lol

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

You can't get better by playing in public servers either. lol you also can't get better by playing in competitive kiddie leagues.

[Sin]

you also can't get better by playing in competitive kiddie leagues.

Nice troll attempt.

[Driaken]

It doesn't matter how well the other team plays when you have 5-6 people on one side race whoring playing the op races. the other team doesn't stand a chance.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Nice troll attempt.
you know what, you are absolutely right. You specifically, can get better in competitive kiddie leagues

[HypeRNT]

There really should be a autobalance for the server. i was just playing where the terrorists didn't even win a round the whole game. just seems unfair for the people stuck on the team where everyone isn't playing maxed races. autobalance could fixed a lot of that.

There you have it, basically what you are asking cant happen, "maynard always joins T" so just try to stack teams when ever you see some players that are good,or play high lvl races. Hope this helps mate, and while i completely agree with you, im sure nothing will happen since we have alot of PRO players out here who dont give a fuck.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

There you have it, basically what you are asking cant happen, "maynard always joins T" so just try to stack teams when ever you see some players that are good,or play high lvl races. Hope this helps mate, and while i completely agree with you, im sure nothing will happen since we have alot of PRO players out here who dont give a fuck.

This is getting awfully annoying. Let me break this down for you since you are to blind sided due to your and everyone else in the servers incessant whining. If the result of a team compilation is that your team is doing bad, don't blame it on "The other team is all playing maxed races." You forfeit your right to whine like a fucking infant when you refuse to make necessary changes to the current playing field to succeed. Not doing so is like wanting the person next to you to stop hitting you, instead of just moving out of reach to solve the problem, you whine as if someone cares about your idiocy.
Secondly, i would like to point out that intentionally team stacking is against are rules and people who commit the act will be punished accordingly. I was in the server last night and couldn't play for more then 1 min before hearing someone whine about something being unfair. I am becoming convinced that it has more to do with people complaining in the server and convincing others that something that was never a problem is now a problem.

Furthermore, if you have any doubts about rules and regulations, Server side upcoming updates, and anything else current with wcs all your questions, well most of them can be answered by coming to these forums. Before believing some stupid rumor from some ignorant fuck in the servers, come here and clarify it. No need to be a sheeple when you have all the resources to debunk a rumor at your disposal.

Edit: yes, the ibis community is comprised of pro players. The ibis community has weaved its self into the very fabric of the universe through means of overwhelming greatness. We did not get where we are today by kneeling to socialistic welfare activists out for equality and fairness. These problems you complain about are easily fixed by the individual expressing shear will power to adapt and overcome specific situations. This might be why the good players are good and you are well, you.

[HypeRNT]

This is getting awfully annoying. Let me break this down for you since you are to blind sided due to your and everyone else in the servers incessant whining. If the result of a team compilation is that your team is doing bad, don't blame it on "The other team is all playing maxed races." You forfeit your right to whine like a fucking infant when you refuse to make necessary changes to the current playing field to succeed. Not doing so is like wanting the person next to you to stop hitting you, instead of just moving out of reach to solve the problem, you whine as if someone cares about your idiocy.
Secondly, i would like to point out that intentionally team stacking is against are rules and people who commit the act will be punished accordingly. I was in the server last night and couldn't play for more then 1 min before hearing someone whine about something being unfair. I am becoming convinced that it has more to do with people complaining in the server and convincing others that something that was never a problem is now a problem.

Furthermore, if you have any doubts about rules and regulations, Server side upcoming updates, and anything else current with wcs all your questions, well most of them can be answered by coming to these forums. Before believing some stupid rumor from some ignorant fuck in the servers, come here and clarify it. No need to be a sheeple when you have all the resources to debunk a rumor at your disposal.

Edit: yes, the ibis community is comprised of pro players. The ibis community has weaved its self into the very fabric of the universe through means of overwhelming greatness. We did not get where we are today by kneeling to socialistic welfare activists out for equality and fairness. These problems you complain about are easily fixed by the individual expressing shear will power to adapt and overcome specific situations. This might be why the good players are good and you are well, you.

What is this whining you speak of? If you are talking about players skills, and that im "whining" because im not good enough or something, i suggest you look at your stats compared to mine, PRO. Second, noone is complaining about whos playing what race and how good they are. What is being said here, that you seem not to understand is, that people join the same teams over and over and over again. Few examples being, Ronnie will join T only on almost every T sided map, being how he has all races maxed out, some other people will follow him to his team, leaving all the pe0ple*with slower connections* to AUTO ASSIGN, or forced to join CT(which will get dominated because CT got the left overs basically).

I dont understand what it is with you guys posting about peoples skill levels. Last time i checked your not a professional league, or a team for that matter that is competing in any pro events like ESL, CEVO, or few other's out there.

This is a PUB, in which there should be sufficient rules to help all the people that come to enjoy the server and have some fun, not to get dominated by people who spam 1 team join button until it lets them, and then force the score to like 15-0 with the other team being broke, and no matter what race or what they switch to, they will still end up being dominated.

There is no rumors out there, while i don't believe we need auto balance, i would at least hope that the AUTO ASSIGN would be expected and harder enforced so that the same people don't join the same freaking teams on the same damn maps over and over, and for once try some variety so the teams can be more even.

Remember, im not complaining as i have no problems on any team or any race to enjoy this game at the highest level. Im just backing up some of these guys that do follow the rules, and expect the same from everyone else, and i dont see how making players auto assign, that consistently join the same team on the same map, can be a problem.

[brett friggin favre]

"but papa eisenhower, the germans are using mg42's! i wanna use my 1911 but we just get wiped out!"

"shut the fuck up kid, chuck a nade at those fuckers and bust in there with 2 BAR's a-blazin. i dont give two shits and a fuck about whether or not you wanna use your pistol"

can you imagine if the greatest generation was so fuckin bitchy?

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Remember, im not complaining as i have no problems on any team or any race to enjoy this game at the highest level. Im just backing up some of these guys that do follow the rules, and expect the same from everyone else, and i dont see how making players auto assign, that consistently join the same team on the same map, can be a problem.

i join ct whenever i can. even if we respected your opinion, i would still always join ct. team switching if needed

also, if you're saying this "for the other people", then they can get their asses in here and post. in a topic NOT associated w/ you, as most of us don't actually care about things you post anymore.

also, in the 15-0 situations you speak of, in a case like that i'll change to human, succubus hunter, or undead and the team will start winning. BECAUSE i decide to adapt.

ibis servers are run by ibis. ibis is run by zero. zero is advised by the clan. you, are nobody. you've gotten your answer from the regulars, and from maynard (who is clan). that's it. the issue is finished, until zero decides to say something. let it go and just play the goddamn game, or don't. won't care/miss you much.

you remind me of an old member named kavinski. kav was a whiney bitch. the only real difference between the two of you, was that kav played zm. both of you had overinflated senses of your own importance, the belief that you'll bring about any change, and the inability to take a hint.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

What is this whining you speak of? If you are talking about players skills, and that im "whining" because im not good enough or something, i suggest you look at your stats compared to mine, PRO. Second, noone is complaining about whos playing what race and how good they are. What is being said here, that you seem not to understand is, that people join the same teams over and over and over again. Few examples being, Ronnie will join T only on almost every T sided map, being how he has all races maxed out, some other people will follow him to his team, leaving all the pe0ple*with slower connections* to AUTO ASSIGN, or forced to join CT(which will get dominated because CT got the left overs basically).

I dont understand what it is with you guys posting about peoples skill levels. Last time i checked your not a professional league, or a team for that matter that is competing in any pro events like ESL, CEVO, or few other's out there.

This is a PUB, in which there should be sufficient rules to help all the people that come to enjoy the server and have some fun, not to get dominated by people who spam 1 team join button until it lets them, and then force the score to like 15-0 with the other team being broke, and no matter what race or what they switch to, they will still end up being dominated.

There is no rumors out there, while i don't believe we need auto balance, i would at least hope that the AUTO ASSIGN would be expected and harder enforced so that the same people don't join the same freaking teams on the same damn maps over and over, and for once try some variety so the teams can be more even.

Remember, im not complaining as i have no problems on any team or any race to enjoy this game at the highest level. Im just backing up some of these guys that do follow the rules, and expect the same from everyone else, and i dont see how making players auto assign, that consistently join the same team on the same map, can be a problem.

It doesn't matter how well the other team plays when you have 5-6 people on one side race whoring playing the op races. the other team doesn't stand a chance.

It's not about people playing races? What you are asking is to tell people they can only play on teams admins say they can play on... Are you fucking stupid? It's the players own Damn fault if he is dling porn and cant get into the server fast enough to do exactly what you are advocating we regulate. It's not a fucking rule and it won't be. Teams that are seemingly uneven due to a score is not the fault of a player choosing a specific team to play on, that is completely absurd. It's due to a teams lack of fortitude ro counter a race that is dominating on the other team.

[maynard]

you remind me of an old member named kavinski. kav was a whiney bitch. the only real difference between the two of you, was that kav played zm. both of you had overinflated senses of your own importance, the belief that you'll bring about any change, and the inability to take a hint.

I lol'd

[HypeRNT]

i join ct whenever i can. even if we respected your opinion, i would still always join ct. team switching if needed

also, if you're saying this "for the other people", then they can get their asses in here and post. in a topic NOT associated w/ you, as most of us don't actually care about things you post anymore.

also, in the 15-0 situations you speak of, in a case like that i'll change to human, succubus hunter, or undead and the team will start winning. BECAUSE i decide to adapt.

ibis servers are run by ibis. ibis is run by zero. zero is advised by the clan. you, are nobody. you've gotten your answer from the regulars, and from maynard (who is clan). that's it. the issue is finished, until zero decides to say something. let it go and just play the goddamn game, or don't. won't care/miss you much.

you remind me of an old member named kavinski. kav was a whiney bitch. the only real difference between the two of you, was that kav played zm. both of you had overinflated senses of your own importance, the belief that you'll bring about any change, and the inability to take a hint.

Once again, seems like some of you have trouble reading. Seems to me like you only read the first couple lines and decided to flame away about things i have not even talked about. Why are you telling me who owns the server? i know who runs the server, and who is who. No im not part of the clan, nor did i say i was? Im simply defending the dude who decided to post here and add suggestions without him insulting anyone, and all you can do is type with an angry face looking at your keyboard, TROLL.

You are posting that the other people should get in here and post, dude, look at your crap that you are posting, why would someone want to post here when they would just get flame raped. People do read whats on these forums, but clearly don't want to get into this with a few of you guys who just constantly deflate any suggestion/remark/issue or any other problem anyone has had with the server or anything race related. Look at your post right now, all you have done is talked me down, tried to insult me for doing nothing but supporting the fellow member of the forum, and the server.

You remind me of a lot things, none of which i would post here since im not an asshole, and i don't really like to insult/flame people for their suggestions or opinions.


And mikey, you are telling me that if, Aleko,zach, ronnie,myself, spasm, immune, and few other people joined T on assault, and you would be forced to join CT, you could simply counter all of us by switching to a race? You cant honestly believe that. There is nothing to stop you from changing races, but don't forget, if ct's change race to counter, the T's can aswell, meaning you really are going no were by changing races. What im saying is, maybe if all these players didn't end up on the same team by spamming join T side, we wouldn't need to go through all this hassle of switching races and whose countering who, it would be more even and more enjoyable for all.

Once again, im not complaining or whining, just trying to explain what this guy who was posting, was trying to say.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

the fact is, i really don't read anything you have to say. you're not worth it. and we wouldn't be rude and such to people if they weren't associated to someone like you.

in fact, most all of the posts before you decided to comment were perfectly fine. we simply told the OP that the auto teambalance wouldn't happen. correction, a clanner told him it wouldn't happen. that right there is the end of the discussion.

the fact that you keep bringing dead issues back up is why we flame you.

[maynard]

the fact that you keep bringing dead issues back up is why we flame you.


Yup... all you do is QQ like a bitch.. and even after you get your answer, you look for any chance 2 bring up the past again and again... someone will make a thread suggesting something and you'll be like

"oh... like when I suggested blah blah and it was shot down! so don't expect them 2 do what you want blah blah"

stfu already, you're annoying, no one likes you, or your constant qq'ing

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Good ol kava, pretty surrbhis last appearance was suggesting I was a drug addict meth smoking low life, if I remember correctly.

Again hyper ill say.

The ibis community has woven its self in the very fabric of the universe through overwhelming greatness. To expect us to give way with your wish is completely absurd and would undermine our eliteness!!!!!

[brett friggin favre]

you remind me of an old member named kavinski. kav was a whiney bitch. the only real difference between the two of you, was that kav played zm. both of you had overinflated senses of your own importance, the belief that you'll bring about any change, and the inability to take a hint.

kav also played gg...ohhh that brings back memories...i bet he's still convinced fluffy and i hack

[Tickle Me Emo]

kav also played gg...ohhh that brings back memories...i bet he's still convinced fluffy and i hack

That's because you do, hackers!

On a serious note, I've been playing CS for a very long time. I honed my skills by not only playing (for what is probably thousands of hours by now), but by reading strategy, studying professional players, taking the time to understand game mechanics, and so on. One day I just sat down and spent over an hour in fy_iceworld shooting walls with different guns at different ranges to understand the effects of recoil and bullet spread, and how to best control each weapon. I'm frequently amongst the top players on whatever team I'm on, and there's a damn good reason. I didn't get to where I am by being lazy and QQing about how other people are dominating me. Yeah, sometimes this race or that player or whatever will piss me off, but you don't see me QQing here, because it's just rage, and in the end rage counts for nothing.

I have no sympathy for people who are unwilling to better themselves. Don't try to tell me that you can't get better. Yes, some people are more naturally inclined, but that doesn't mean those who aren't can't overcome that lack of natural ability to attain the same level. It does mean that some people might have to, gasp, actually try to get better.

That last part was a free installment of Emo's Life Lessons™. Take it and apply it to everything in your life, and maybe you won't suck, and people will like you.

[HotFuzz]

Reading this thread just made me have to pour a drink. Also, kind of have a craving for some cheese with this whine