Mr Carter 03/19/12 STEAM_0:1:39973164

[therealimmune]

Name in Game: Mr carter
Steam-ID: STEAM_0:1:39973164
Where:WCS Mod (Map) de dusk
Link to ban:http://www.ibisgaming.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=STEAM_0:1:39973164&advType=steamid&Submit
Was asked to join wcs for an aimbotter, turns out no aimbots just ghosting, he really made obvs when he joins other team as his friend and sits around doing nothing till his team dies.

after i banned his friend he said he dont mod or ghost hes playing right beside me, but really, come on

[Hitman]

Didn't know it was a bannable offense to play CS with your friend next to you. LAN parties are now a bannable offense thanks to therealimmune.

[therealimmune]

Didn't know it was a bannable offense to play CS with your friend next to you. LAN parties are now a bannable offense thanks to therealimmune.

ghosting is , are u really that fucking dumb?

[Disflux]

therealimmune, I advise you to delete your last post before Hitman sees it and kills you. He IS a hitman after all.

Anyways, ghosting is a temp ban offense, but NOT a perma-ban offense unless it become highly repeated. You can read the rules here:

http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/495-Server-Rules-1.7

Nowhere under perma-bans does it list ghosting, but it does underneath temporary bans.

However, ghosting is one of those things that is really hard to catch. You can't really ban somebody for ghosting unless they're obviously doing it in server, or blatantly admit it to you. You can have your speculations, but you can't provide enough proof or evidence based upon the idea that he waited until the end of the round when everybody died to make his move. Hell, maybe he was just eating a sandwich. And just because they're playing next to each other doesn't mean that they were in fact ghosting, that's just bad logic, which is what Hitman was getting at.

Also, you forgot a poll, but this is a fail attempt at a perma-ban anyways.

[therealimmune]

therealimmune, I advise you to delete your last post before Hitman sees it and kills you. He IS a hitman after all.

Anyways, ghosting is a temp ban offense, but NOT a perma-ban offense unless it become highly repeated. You can read the rules here:

http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/495-Server-Rules-1.7

Nowhere under perma-bans does it list ghosting, but it does underneath temporary bans.

However, ghosting is one of those things that is really hard to catch. You can't really ban somebody for ghosting unless they're obviously doing it in server, or blatantly admit it to you. You can have your speculations, but you can't provide enough proof or evidence based upon the idea that he waited until the end of the round when everybody died to make his move. Hell, maybe he was just eating a sandwich. And just because they're playing next to each other doesn't mean that they were in fact ghosting, that's just bad logic, which is what Hitman was getting at.

Also, you forgot a poll, but this is a fail attempt at a perma-ban anyways.
i know but he keeps pming me to make a perma bam post so i did
its ok im done i really dont care anymore after all this bs over some no name ghoster, the poll is up

[brett friggin favre]

see posts in unban thread or ryd's thread. nothing in there suggesting ghosting or anything else to me.

[Disflux]

As the banning admin, you are able to unban the player at any time at your discretion, (unless deemed hacking by ULA, Clan, or God a.k.a. Zero). What I would suggest is to unban the player, tell him he was given a temp ban for suspected ghosting, perhaps apologize for that speculation if you believe you were in the wrong, and remind him that ghosting is not allowed in the server. Also, I would go onto the webbans page and change the reason for the ban. Right now you have it set to aimbot. And then get this thread closed :wtg:

[therealimmune]

As the banning admin, you are able to unban the player at any time at your discretion, (unless deemed hacking by ULA, Clan, or God a.k.a. Zero). What I would suggest is to unban the player, tell him he was given a temp ban for suspected ghosting, perhaps apologize for that speculation if you believe you were in the wrong, and remind him that ghosting is not allowed in the server. Also, I would go onto the webbans page and change the reason for the ban. Right now you have it set to aimbot. And then get this thread closed :wtg:

if u dont have current admin you cant see the notes, soo leave this in the upper admins hands ty

[Disflux]

if u dont have current admin you cant see the notes, soo leave this in the upper admins hands ty

You mean the note that says, "1week for ghosting?" If you can't change it yourself see if somebody else has the power to change it. Here's the problem. Let's say some regular goes onto WCS, gets killed a few times by Carter, and gets super bitchy and pissed off like you. He then googles Carter's steam id and finds that we banned him for aimbot, and gets super pissy at US because YOU labeled it as an aimbot.

And if you're truly going to ban people on such a small account, and then flagrantly refuse to see reason with how many people telling you that you're wrong, then you should either give up your admin or have it stripped. An admin that doesn't know the rules and doesn't use reason is just a problem for this community.

[Hitman]

Perfect example this guy....

The way hes responding.....I don't even need to see the demo's...I can tell that he has no skills in catching hackers....yet alone how to catch a ghosting player.

[XX0wnsXY]

As others have said..you have to have definitive proof of ghosting. There have been others suspected of ghosting in the past, but it's just too hard to say someone is ghosting unless you have hard evidence (IE someone saying they are or otherwise doing it within the server). I am going to unban them per Hitman's request.

[Hitman]

I vote to unban.....OH WAIT NO POLL!!!


Owns...you can unban these 2 guys....im closing this topic.