Mithyk, 3/19/12, ~4:30 ET, STEAM_0:0:2386546

[brett friggin favre]

Name in Game: [RH]Mithyk
Steam-ID: STEAM_0:0:2386546
Where: wcs
Link to any previous bans: http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/1862-Banned-all-of-a-sudden-%288-23-09%29-around-9pm
Reason to perma ban: aim assist

he caught my eye with a streak of headshots, and i looked up his stats ( http://www.ibisgaming.com/wcs_stats/player.php?id=38439 ) and saw 63% headshots. he joins just after the demo starts, and has a few questionable kills with dualies. then around 23k, he just seems way too accurate with the deagle. now i know the deagle is pretty accurate but just watch there. i'm not positive on this one but i thought it would at least warrant a second look from newer eyes, and that 63% headshots just seems out of whack to me.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I would say no, when you slow down those deagle shots, most of the head shots he gets are luck. I say this because the head shots he does get for the most part are recoil hits, when slowed down the cursor isnt aimed directly at the enemies head. this is apparent at ticks 25k and 27k for examples. I watched to tick 70k after about 45k he just starts to get raped by Notmyfualts flame pred.

Ill keep an eye on him though.

[brett friggin favre]

I would say no, when you slow down those deagle shots, most of the head shots he gets are luck. I say this because the head shots he does get for the most part are recoil hits, when slowed down the cursor isnt aimed directly at the enemies head. this is apparent at ticks 25k and 27k for examples. I watched to tick 70k after about 45k he just starts to get raped by Notmyfualts flame pred.

Ill keep an eye on him though.

and thats the thing that makes me think its aim assist. he's not aiming near the head but seems to get consistent headshots.

[CYBER]

After he gets the hs , does his crosshair slightly move in a perfect line towards the dead guy's head? Or does he just get the shot and keep walking? (first is aim assist, ladder might be luck)

[brett friggin favre]

After he gets the hs , does his crosshair slightly move in a perfect line towards the dead guy's head? Or does he just get the shot and keep walking? (first is aim assist, ladder might be luck)

tough to say with the interp lag in the sourcetv demos.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

After he gets the hs , does his crosshair slightly move in a perfect line towards the dead guy's head? Or does he just get the shot and keep walking? (first is aim assist, ladder might be luck) no, the recoil and shot pattern from his deaf is normal. His cursor dosnt trace the head from what I saw.

[CYBER]

Thx for the reply mikey. I dnt have access to a pc again ( i wanna hang myself if my pc doesnt get fixed soon), so i appreciate the description. Will look this up as soon as i can, if still on hold later.

[brett friggin favre]

ok tell me this isn't fishy. i posted this thread after his session on thematrix.

http://i.imgur.com/sTQxc.png

everything before this post has at least 50% headshots. every single session. then 11, 4, and 5. really?

edit: i think he was playing knife races for most of the last few sessions. still...coincidence or masking his stats?

[XX0wnsXY]

I'm going to vote no. I really don't see anything to support walls and I see nothing conclusive on the aim assist. Not saying he's not, I'm just saying that this demo does not provide enough evidence for me to vote yes. I see a few lucky shots is all.

[brett friggin favre]

I'm going to vote no. I really don't see anything to support walls and I see nothing conclusive on the aim assist. Not saying he's not, I'm just saying that this demo does not provide enough evidence for me to vote yes. I see a few lucky shots is all.

fair enough. i'll keep an eye on him and let you guys know if i get harder evidence.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

i dunno just watched him in WCS just now, he left shortly after i went to spectate but as normal game speed it looked like he had 0 recoil when using his deag, ill post the demo here for further/potential evidence and review it myself

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Edit: watch tick 12600-13400 in r_drawothermodels 2, i kinda lawled inside. Also take note of the irregular recoil.. if he was trying to hide no recoil.. he fucked up by picking up a p90 (;

[brett friggin favre]

thanks mikey. i dunno about the walls, i mean yeah it looks fishy but i'd need to see more to call him on that, but again i see the irregular recoil, that demo shows it pretty well.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

thanks mikey. i dunno about the walls, i mean yeah it looks fishy but i'd need to see more to call him on that, but again i see the irregular recoil, that demo shows it pretty well.

8k as well he traces someone thew the house as he travels on the east side of the house, though he uses Gaze.. gaze is not up the entire time he traces.. which leads me to belive more evidence with walls. Its normal to trace a player when they are gazed, but to continue tracing them as the start to move again, look away then turn RIGHT back at them and trace some more.. no thats deff walls lol.

[brett friggin favre]

8k as well he traces someone thew the house as he travels on the east side of the house, though he uses Gaze.. gaze is not up the entire time he traces.. which leads me to belive more evidence with walls. Its normal to trace a player when they are gazed, but to continue tracing them as the start to move again, look away then turn RIGHT back at them and trace some more.. no thats deff walls lol.

8k is meh, yeah he's right on the guy twice but again not conclusive...close though. if he's toggling, he's being really careful about it. around 11k with the gaze, the spec view is bugged a bit. if you slow it down you can see the gaze on the guy, mithyk turns to the left, sees the gaze, and when he looks back to the right it's bugged and not showing. but you can see that before he shoots the guy, the gaze is on him. there are also a few things that dont make sense if he was walling, the guy that got killed by the rock for example and opening the closet door upstairs. it's a pointless door and he surely wouldn't open it if he was walling.

i still say the recoil pattern is abnormal.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

8k is meh, yeah he's right on the guy twice but again not conclusive...close though. if he's toggling, he's being really careful about it. around 11k with the gaze, the spec view is bugged a bit. if you slow it down you can see the gaze on the guy, mithyk turns to the left, sees the gaze, and when he looks back to the right it's bugged and not showing. but you can see that before he shoots the guy, the gaze is on him. there are also a few things that dont make sense if he was walling, the guy that got killed by the rock for example and opening the closet door upstairs. it's a pointless door and he surely wouldn't open it if he was walling.

i still say the recoil pattern is abnormal. the the problem though when you watch a demo all cookie cutter like. If I was really trying to hide it and keep a high Kdr... Is let my self get killed a few times here and there. I'm saying that the amount of accidental traces is above normal in that short time. As for the guy.by the rock , the proceeding round he stalls in spawn as if turning them on. The rock guy was before him doing so.

[CYBER]

ok i watched this a couple days ago and forgot to update my opinion...

VERY fishy, i honestly stopped at the same tickmarks you guys mentionned above even without seeing the posts...
unfortunately i'll have to vote inconclusive on this one.
the aim is not that apparently to me...and as for the walls, everything is circumstantial, even demo2.

surely if i convince myself he hacks i could start seeing the placebo effect of some irregularities in his shots or behaviour, but lets not go there. for now, i'll vote inconclusive.
keep in mind that when it comes to recoil, the p90 recoil only started appearing weird after i read about it here,,, missed it in game the first few times, so my mind could be playing tricks on me... also i cant base a decision on just 1 kill.

However, keep an eye out on this guy... my eyes say inconclusive, but my gut tells me he's VERY fishy.
lets hope you find more hardcore shit on him in time.
also, if other ULAs feel like watching this shit and sees smthn i missed, please contact me so i can see what u see, and make ur statements apparent if the guy gets another thread on him :)

inconclusive/perma denied for now/ thread closed.