corpseman mild then vulgar abuse

[putmypantsonandgo]

SERVER: Zombie Mod
ADMIN NAME: corpseman
MY NAME: putmypantsonandgo
MAP: zm_miniature
DATE AND TIME: 4/11/2012 8:10 Pm Centrail Time

As we all know I use a spray of 2 guys hugging. I am kicked without reason just sayes kicked. I rejoin and look at console to see who kicked me. I ask corpseman why he kicked me he begins by telling me shutup they guy with the gay porn spray. I tell him no other admins have issues with it including zero and he insults me again. The high level admins know me and know I come and play and sometime use this spray. I am not one for causing problems and have only reported another admin for abuse that had many complaints against him and he was removed from the server. I dont like spending time comming here and reporting but I feel in this case if I dont this admin is always going to have a problem with me personally as he calls me a fag.

I think this guy needs reminded of the rules of being an admin. And perhaps give him some advice on not being such a homophobe. 2 guys hugging is nothing wrong with it. I sat the other day warning admins about a spray with 2 guys doing felatio on each other and semen all over the place and nothing was done. I mean come on dude its 2 guys hugging. I would be happy to go back to my girl with the sausage spray.

[blackmail242]

Dude I saw your spray, It's not just two guys hugging. It is two guys with their shirts off, and the one in the back is embracing the other from behind. -.-; You were warned by panda about spraying it while I was in the server I believe on Ze_blackmesa.

[putmypantsonandgo]

Only time ive been warned about the spray was from some girl admin and it was taken care of. It violates no rules. Zero has seen it has no issue with and so have the other higher up admins. Not a big deal if im told by a senior admin not to use then I wont. But when many senior admins say its ok and then some homophobic level 1 admin kicks me with no warning at all then I have a problem. HE GAVE ME NO WARNING!

And your missing the point of post 1. admins are suppose to warn people. 2. the continued disrespect when I rejoined.

So id like a senior admin to please deicde if I can use it or not? This spray has so many times cought groups of pepople off guard when I spray it and I come in for a back stab.

[Patmonster]

Revision 1.7

Table of Contents
Rules
Punishment
Reference



-RULES

I. Hacking

1) The use of any program to auto aim
A) aimbots, spin bots, lock bots
2) The use of a program or textures or settings to see though walls
A) wall hacks, prefire, esp
3) The use of any program, script or setting to run faster
A) speed hacks
4) The use of changed textures and or sounds to gain unfair advantage
A) no scope skins, changed ingame sounds to gain advantage, look for prefire
II. Exploiting

1) The use of programs, settings, or scripts to crash or exploit the server
A) Hacking the server
B) Executing a script that can crash the server
2) The use of scripts to break normal functionality of a game or mod
A) Scripts that break every cade
III. Spamming

1) Yelling into a mic repeatedly to disrupt game play
2) The use of HLSS
A) Can be used with permission from admin or if players are requesting it
B) Should not be overused or used for long durations
3) Advertising for another server or clan
A) Preformed by saying: Join here xx.xxx.xx.x.x
B) Such as come to XXX join my clan
C) Getting people to join player groups can be done via steam. Do not wast chat space for this sort of thing
4) Just typing a bunch of stuff to spam the chat

5) The malicious spread of dissidence in order to rally support for a competing entity.

A) Not to be confused with crying about the server
B) Not to be confused with crying about the community
C) Malicious intent must be proven
D) Note: Complaints about the servers are encouraged however this rule is intended to prevent the abuse of complaints in order to form as a marketing statement for other servers.
IV. Teleport

1) When used to escape from zombies as a human
A) Commands such as but not limited to
a) !stuck
b) !ztele
c) !teleport
2) When used repeatedly despite multiple kicks
V. Glitching

1) Taking advantage of the shortcomings of a map
A) Using methods not intended by the map creator to gain an advantage where it is 99%+ impossible for zombies to get you
B) Camping in areas that you can only get to by exploiting a map or using special zombie powers to get to the end of an escape map
a) Prenuking or camping on the platform on atix
2) Taking advantage of the shortcomings of valve
A) Rate hacking
a) The use of rate settings to spoof a abnormal ping to not get kicked
b) The use of rate settings to gain an unfair net code advantage
i) This is seen when a player lags heavily but has a low ping or strange interp settings
B) Name hacking
a) When used to create an identical name
i) This is automatically applied to people using the name unconnected. They are copying each others names and should be stopped even if there is only one.
b) When used to create and invisible name
c) When used to create the name of an admin or clan member
3) Taking advantage of a mod
A) When used to break the normal functionality of the game
a) Such as wards or poison smoke being used on bombs and hostages
VI. Ghosting

1) When used ingame from same residence
A) When two or more people communicate verbally or via any other means the location and or whereabouts of enemies on a given map
2) When used via Vent ect...


A) When two or more players use a program outside of the game to communicate the location and or whereabouts of enemies on a given map
VII. Respect

1) Players that disrespect others
2) Player continuously nags others and continues despite reasonable requests to silence including mutes and kicks
3) Players that disrespect Admins or <ibis>


A) Player that nags an admin repeatedly despite being told to :chillpill:
B) Player that is not respectful of someone of a higher position
C) Flipping out at an admin after being told to :chillpill:
a) Cursing
b) Screaming into mic
c) Ranting about how the admin, ect is gay ect.
VIII. Sprays

1) A spray that contains "gay" images
A) Gay men or body parts
2) Disgusting images
A) Things that look really bad
a) includes BBW images designed to shock players
3) A spray that is sprayed after the user has been warned multiple times.
IX. Give

1) When used to avoid reloading
A) This refers to the !give command
2) When used after being warned
A) This refers to the !give command 3) When used repeatedly on multiple occasions
A) This refers to the !give command
4) When repeatedly used to obtain restricted weapons
A) This refers to ADMINs
5) When used to give money or levels or a means to obtain easy levels on WCS
X. Buy

1) When used to obtain a restricted weapon
A) Via console
B) Via buy menu
a) When used during a failure of the restriction system after an admin has stated to cease use of said object and the user continues despite being reasonably informed
b) When used to buy an object after said object has been dropped on the map
i) The object was dropped by another player to allow for this exploit
ii) The object was dropped as a result of a players death
XI. Names

1) No player shall use a name made to look like another players
2) No admin shall ever use unnamed or unconnected
XII. Spec/Retry
1) No player shall enter spectate to avoid death.
2) No player shall reconnect or leave the server and come back to avoid death.
3) No player shall reconnect or leave the server and come back to play again in the same round.
4) Above applies to all servers for all players, should not be confused with allowing zombies to teleport to avoid death.
-PUNISHMENT

I. Kicks

Should be given out to players to break the rules and disrupt the game. A verbal and admin say warring should be given out in advanced of a kick.
1) If players fail to respond within a reasonable time frame they should be kicked for violation of any of the following

II.2
III
III.1
IV
IV.2
V
VII
VIII
IX
X
XI
XII
2) The following can be upgraded directly to a "short" temp ban with the discretion of the ADMIN. Remember that the player should still be warned before any ban or kick is issued.
II.2
III.1
IV.2
V
X
XI
XII

II. Temp bans

Should be given out to players who have a thick skull and need to be taught a lesson. Should not be given for longer than 7 days, this is the maximum unless the user has a history of problems.
1) Violation of any of the following gets instant temp ban
III.5 -With demo of proof
IV.2
V.2.B.a
VII.2
VII.3.C
VIII.3
2) Violation of any of the following after the player has been kicked (or the rules bypass are met) for preforming said violation. Note that instant bypasses should not be longer than an hour or so. Also remember that the player should have been clearly warned before the issue of said ban.
II.2
III
IV.2
V
VI
VII
VIII
IX
X
XI
XII

III. Perma bans

This is the highest punishment a player can receive. It can only be granted by a relatively small number of Upper Level Admins. Perma bans usually require a demo but always require that the player in question, beyond a reasonable doubt, committed an offense against the server and or community. Like any ban these can be applied but require a 2/3 majority vote from ALL upper level admins. If the ban appeal is denied it can NEVER be made again.
1) Violation of the following can result in perma ban without a demo. As long as there is substantial witnesses and physical log evidence
I.1
I.3
II.1
V.2.B.c
IX.3
2) Violation of the following when proved by demo
I
II
III.5 -Must have received an approved temp ban first
V.2.A
V.2.B.c
-REFERENCE

I. How rules are referenced

Rules are referenced according to their number and letter. When referring to a given rule any sub sections to the number referenced are considered part of the object being discussed. Below are examples
V.2.A.a -Refers only to section a of A of 2 of rule V. any any subsections

V.2.A.b.i -Refers only to section i of the sections above it
II. Understanding bypasses

Some rules allow for bypasses, this means that under some circumstances one type of punishment can be bypassed and a more sever one can be issued. For example violations of some rules may allow admins to skip a kick and go to a predesignated ban length instead. Another example would be bypassing a mute for a kick. Punishments that can be bypassed have a section stating what rule violations allow for bypasses. It is up to an admin to decide if they want to skip to a more severe punishment. Think of bypasses as an "or" statement for admins, when a user breaks a given rule they can punish with "this" or if it is on the bypass list they can punish with "something more severe"
III. Revisions
The rules are never totally set in stone, there are always people finding new unimaginable ways to ruin peoples fun. In addition sometimes it is necessary to spell out in stone some things that are highly contested to make it dead clear. Revisions will follow a X.x format and X will always change the version after x=9. x also starts at 0 and X starts at 1. The current revision is listed at the top of the post on the right hand corner and in the topic title.


This is a quote from zero from his server rules post. "no gay sprays"
Now if he didn't warn, that is something else. But take the fucking gay spray off

[XX0wnsXY]

I'm guessing this is a situation of "some admins may allow it, and some admins may not": your best bet is to not use it to completely avoid these situations...but he should have asked you to change it first...then if you did not..he would be justified in taking action.

It is against the rules to use gay porn sprays...the way that is handled is up to the admin.

Edit..I was under the impression there was some sort of nudity..

Well if not..then I guess he was in the wrong..but he still should have asked you to change it first if he was offended. We have a process for a reason.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

what if the two guys hugging, showing 0 nudity at all... were just bros?

some proof, maybe the spray, something posted here to help the process. it would help.

[Chef C Green]

I'm guessing this is a situation of "some admins may allow it, and some admins may not": your best bet is to not use it to completely avoid these situations...but he should have asked you to change it first...then if you did not..he would be justified in taking action.

It is against the rules to use gay porn sprays...the way that is handled is up to the admin.

Agreed.

Server Rules > Sprays > 1) A spray that contains "gay" images

[acolyte_to_jippity]

was there any penises? no? then it's allowed. though it is not smart to fight admins and cause scenes, as they can quickly get out of hand and quite often end with you getting kicked/temp'd for saying something you shouldn't to an admin.

read again: unless there is a penis in the spray, it is not prohibited. this is how that rule has been interpreted and enforced for a long, LONG time.

[blackmail242]

It says BODY PARTS. Specifying which parts? no. Besides that if the spray is blatanly gay without such parts then should it not be considered as such?

[Dj panda]

I Said, Do not spray any Gay images including dicks. If they do not have a Penis in them or if it is very vulgur you cannot act upon. I did warn the map before so he had his warning if it was indeed a gay spray, though i would want to see what the spray was to conclude if it was infact abuse or not

[Patmonster]

was there any penises? no? then it's allowed. though it is not smart to fight admins and cause scenes, as they can quickly get out of hand and quite

often end with you getting kicked/temp'd for saying something you shouldn't to an admin.

read again: unless there is a penis in the spray, it is not prohibited. this is how that rule has been interpreted and enforced for a long, LONG time.

The rules I JUST quoted says gay men or body parts. not penises. Read the rules

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I Said, Do not spray any Gay images including dicks. If they do not have a Penis in them or if it is very vulgur you cannot act upon. I did warn the map before so he had his warning if it was indeed a gay spray, though i would want to see what the spray was to conclude if it was infact abuse or not

So you saw the spray, but want to to see the spray because you arnt sure if the punishment was correct because you are uncertin of what the spray was .. dude im lost....


Guy posting abuse, it would be in your best intrest to post the picture the person punished for. Keep in mind, you will not be punished for posting it here, it will only shed some light on the situation, considering your punishment is already done with, you have nothing to lose.

[jaeeh]

um I've seen pants around regularly and other admins too, so far they haven't said anything, cause its not too bad (i've seen the spray myself a few times).
but I guess rules are rules, so until you post the spray here for a reference for us, I guess we can't decide yet :D - but personally from me pants, it is a disturbing spray :D

[maynard]

post the pic, or change it. those are your options.

and when choosing a new picture, I would think before picking one... if you know a picture is going 2 piss heterosexuals off, as they will see it as gay... don't use it. it's real simple. post as much tits and ass as you want, leave male nudity out of our servers as it's not accepted or welcomed.

[putmypantsonandgo]

http://www.iteconsulting.net/goodpals.bmp

[Meltdown]

I have to admit I have totally nothing against sprays which hint gayness because I could care less unless it shows obvious sign's of penises lol, Where I live it so normal to see gay people lesbians etc etc everywhere so I don't see the fuss. What I do mind is that one thing is forbidden and the other not, like 2 males raping a single woman spray is aloud full nude and simply naked man not LOL that reeks to discrimination in some sort.

Now I know the USA is totally the oppe side of what Netherlands is so I can totally understand the rule and why people get so upset, but understand too that for people from overseas look different at this sort of stuff and might implement the whole rule different.

@ edit lol, he uses that spray for ages and now someone complains lmao

[checkster]

http://www.iteconsulting.net/goodpals.bmp

Oh dear lord, its to men hugging, that seems like love, you should be ashamed of your self.
Also I think I see a male nipple, and with my low self esteem, and homophobic tendencies I must get rid of this picture.

Seriously tho, this pic is not against rules, there is no male nudity. I see no ass or dick.

[maynard]

meltdown, if you don't like our rules regarding sprays, you always have the option if joining a diff community, as our rules are not up for debate.


yes this pic would be against the rules. it's 2 gay shirtless guys 1 with caressing the other... and the 1 guy is like kissing or licking the others face....

keep male nudity and any form of gay (male) sprays out of the ibis servers... it is not welcomed or accepted. if you don't like it, play elsewhere.

clsoed, no abuse.