Playwithme and the tyrant

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

Admin's INGAME name: T3h tyrant + pl@ywithme
You're INGAME name: THe holy sh**!
Server: ibis zombie mod
Map: deathstar + mak0_reactor final fantasy whatever
Date & Time: 23:45-00:24 4/27/12 - 4/28/12

How did he/she abuse (See TOS): Falsely banning, kicking, player disrespecting and abusing powers.

Proof (Proof is NEEDED in order to report abuse, if the abuse contains admin commands and chat only a date and time is needed; however, a screen shot or console copy is helpful):

- DEATHSTAR DEMO DL BELOW POST -
1-55000 boring, you can see me rant at how BAD the humans were which will lead you to the next part.

55000 - i disconnected before zombies even coming for me appeared onto my screen, shortly after i rejoin you can see me clearly frustrated with the humans on the map.

78000 - i get gagged for no reason whatsoever, my friend pootie comes in too ask what happen on my behalf?

98,000 - playwithme confirming i was gagged and never gave a reason/warning.

104000 - tyrant said he didnt mute me, which means playwithme gagged me ( no reason/warning )

106000 - tyrant disrespecting pootie when he was asking a question to my mute. "pooties butthurt that his boyfriend is muted".

so far we haven't gotten an answer and just disrespect and admin abuse from tyrant and playwithme, and I've already been slayed for the offense of avoid being tagged.

- ze_ffvii_mako_reactor_v3_1 DEMO DL BELOW -

0-65000 is all you need to see, notable parts below.

0-21000 - If you see that chat logs, you can see myself and pootie having connection problems since were on the same IP address, if we connect to the same server at times, one of us will get kick and the other will connect.
21000-30000 - you see me lose connection again due to this and join the round and the start to play the round.

53000 - is my only warning about being banned, which then i got gagged for no reason by playwithme, i begin to use my mic which then i was muted for no reason. I disconnected to get a reason to why i have been muted.

62000 - I rejoined just to get kicked for no reason after rejoining from being muted for no reason and gagged for no reason. ( no warning of being muted or gagged either )

65000 - i reconnect to ask wtf happen and i got banned FOR NO REASON?

Chat log, thanks alex for brining it up. No were did i disrespect an admin.

Conversation during mako
STEAM_0:1:15490062 | IP: 76.190.194.172 | -zlm- THE HOLY SH**!
STEAM_0:1:49024090 | IP: 76.190.194.172 | -zlm- Pootie Too Good
STEAM_0:1:27075768 Bane of Soldiers
STEAM_0:0:34452432 T3h Tyrant <ibis.a
STEAM_0:1:36704267 Pl@Y ibis.a

*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : gonna cry some more?
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : i love rank
*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : not crying
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : seems like it
*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : im playung as zombie play im not rank manipulating
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : dont spawn late
*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : oyu cant rprove any rank manipulation when ive clearly said i play zombie for fun,
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : it doesnt matter
*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : it does
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : if the console choses you then you play as zombie
*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : i could create a steam account and play as zombie only on the account
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : other then that suck it up
*SPEC* Bane of Soldiers : You cannot abuse the zspawn feature
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : then ill ban it
*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : so if i go 15-0 as azombie every roind would tht be rank maniuplating:?
*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : no its cuz im going to be zombie every oround
*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : weres this rank manipulating rule?
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : just dont do it
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : its your only warning
*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : im not doing anything wrong
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : oh but you are
*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : you sitting in spectate every ze and only playing pussy cades is rank manipulating
*SPEC* Pl@Y ibis.a : !gag holy
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : lol cant hear him cause mic lag
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : but i hear bitching
*SPEC* Pl@Y ibis.a : !mute holy
-zlm- THE HOLY SH**! connected.
-zlm- THE HOLY SH**! connected.

*SPEC* Pl@Y ibis.a : !kick holy

-zlm- THE HOLY SH**! connected.

*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : tf w
*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : wtf was i kicked for now?

(Holy got banned by play)

-zlm- Pootie Too Good connected.

*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : out of curiousity, how long is holy's ban
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : i dont really give a shit
*SPEC* Bane of Soldiers : i think it said 1440 min, idk
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : its 24 hours i think i dont know
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : what were the terms of it? like what
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : he's buying admin now lol
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : avoiding tag admin disrespect spawning zombie
*SPEC* Bane of Soldiers : disrespect, abusing zspawn, and avoiding mute/gag
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : well the last time he spawned as zombie was because you kicked him right before the round
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : haha
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : you were both wrong in the situation, but youll win due to paying 11 dollars a month haha
*SPEC* Bane of Soldiers : False. We'll see on the thread.
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : but i dont understand why you can just talk shit and when we try to reply, its disrespect. why should we respect you when you
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : are calling me his boyfriend?
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : because you pay $11 a month?
*DEAD* j3T : yeah fuck off kid stop riding his dick
*SPEC* Bane of Soldiers : idk, but calling admins pussy rankwhores is pretty disrespectful
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : yeahhh
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : i can agree with that
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : and hes avoiding a tag?
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : i didnt see that so i cant comment on it, but he was complaining the entire round about retarded cts
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : doesnt matter
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : youll find im far more reasonable
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : he doesnt follow rules



so i enjoy playing on these server and im usually pretty opinionated but I am sick of these types of admins who would never pass an inspection test too become an admin.

Well we begin tonight with teh tyrant. He accused me of disconnected from being tagged by zombies when I disconnected because I couldn't handle playing with 25+ morons. He then slayed me for saying "I watched you disconnect from a zombie in front of you". Which is cool buddy, but if you notice the ingame chat for the entire map before hand you would see my apparent frustration with the humans and my point of disconnecting because i didnt want to play as a human anymore because the humans couldn't do anything. So as usually, I asked why was I slayed was and i asked him too prove me disconnecting just to avoid being tagged. "I could pull up the demo's". I looked at the demo's and all i did was disconnect as a zombie jumped onto screen, just a coincidence i guess but lets continue.

So i go too him with a normal attitude a straight forward "WTF" was that for. He proceeded too act like a 13 year old going "u mad bro" and so on. No were did i disrespect him or say anything demeaning in his matter. So he gags me or ( or playwithme without warning or anything of that matter ). Neither were trying to have a legitimate conversation while they both faced opposition from me and just used the "admin" card to end them for having to give any reason or rational too why they wont answer my questions about why they were gagging me and kicking me for no reason besides saying "umadlooool".My roomate pootie comes in to ask why they muted and gagged me they said "pooties butthurt that his boyfriend is muted". . Which is disrepectful to pootie. ( yet against server rules and they STILL do it ) This is bulllshit, admins can disrespect players and i cant disrespect them?

So we go to the next map, mak0. My bro pootie and I have the same IP address with wireless internet and you can clearly see my connection getting cut at times when he connects and everytime i connect, he disconnects. According to teh tyrant and playwithme i was rank "manipulating" when I ask them what proof? They said becoming first zombie every round by disconnecting is rank manipulating. ( they only called it rank manipulating when i ask them why they always sat in spectate and never played any ze maps or any hard cade maps :lmao: So i stopped and sat in spectate for a bit too chill and smoke for a bit. In the meantime im trying to ask what i did wrong, how they can prove it and what reasoning they have to why i have been kicked, gagged and now being threaten to be ban for rank manipulating ( sitting in spectate only too play easy maps could be consider rank manipulating ) For no reason playwithme decided that "she had enough" and gagged me. I took to the mic, again I GOT MUTED. So i disconnected to rejoin the start of the next round to begin and ask why i'm being falsely muted and i get kicked FOR NO REASON. So i join the next round to ask why and before i could even get on a team i got BANNED for a MONTH for for the following reasons: Admin disrespect, rank manipulation, avoiding tag.

1.) They have no evidence that I disrespected / rank manipulated or avoid being tagged.
- Rank manipulation: So i was joining a shitty escape map just to gain rank as a zombie? please don't make me laugh, if you knew me you would know im AGAINST all those things. Im in for making the rankings tougher and much more precise. Your perception of rank manipulating is because you BOTH think about your rank > what other people want. Another thing, players were standing in spawn on deathstar just to bhop to the end as a zombie. Where were their warnings for rank manipulation? It's either you didnt care or werent doing your job. ( or what I think, you were being biased after being ask questions you didn't have an explanation for )

- Admin disrespect: As i said, prove too me were i disrespected you guys. If you can't then you have lied and banned me under false pretense and have no business being around here.

- avoid being tagged: Prove to me this? I play every map/cade good/bad i get tagged all the time, it's been illegal too do such a thing ever since i can remember. As noted, i can see why you may Think i have "avoided" being tagged when the zombie was clearly bhoping too the group of humans. Then you slayed me for that, so you have already taken care of that offense and have accused me of doing it again. ( no proof of me doing it twice, abusing admin again aswell. )


As i said, i got banned by 2 immature admins who couldn't even engage an adult like conversation without acting like retards and playing the "im an admin" card. GUESS what i was an admin for over 3 years, who really gives a shit though? I never played anyone like that, that's just childish and pathetic. Makes you weak and a coward that you can't take criticism or be put on the hot seat when ask to explain yourselves. DW though, i'll just get admin back and show you kids how to do it. I don't understand why ibis continues too encourage these type of admins, i think these 2 should have no more powers then just turning parachutes on/off kicking hackers and map changing ability. No were did you follow the admin tos besides when you gave me a warning, as I said show me YOUR PROOF to your accusations. They don't exist.

[Pl@YwithM3]

didnt you learn anything from your last fail abuse thread towards me? -ill get to reading your like 5 page essay in a bit

[T3h tyrant]

you disconnected to avoid a ban so you sat out a round.. you know the rules youve been here on ibis forever.. you also spawn as a zombie just to tag people for rank your excuse is "you cant prove that im doing it for rank i just like playing as a zombie" <-- bullshit and not only that but you did disrespect us so dont act innocent

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

Watch the demos ! they say it all, i got all the proof lined up kiddies. If you can clearly see my connection closing 3 times, you can see that pootie was joining right before that happen. Since you 2 simple-tons need a play by play i took the 10 extra minutes too find them in the demo's. You should see the papers i write for my constitutional interpretation class, they would blow your mind.

@playwithme - i got alot of lools from the last thread, i had people agreeing with me because they understood what I meant by entrance and they clearly got the point i was making across, some of the ibis rules are to loose. You act as if you think i or any one really cares for your opinion when your really just another 11 dollars going towards some pretty fun servers.

@teh tyrant - i was only saying that because you have no proof i was doing that, your assumption was i was doing it for rank. Watch the demo's and you can see the truth, not my fault you can't understand logic and the point i was trying to make because i knew you kiddies were going to mute me.


Let me explain: Maybe someone doesn;t wanna be a human, and only likes to be a zombie. So he only plays and joins to be a zombie every round.

Does that make him a rank whore? No.

If i created a stream account just to be a zombie, would that make someone a rank whore?

No, just someone who likes to play as a zombie.

As i said, you need PROOF i was rank manipulating. WERE IS IT?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Holy, if i watch this mako demo and its says (user disconnected) im going to laugh at you.

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

Holy, if i watch this mako demo and its says (user disconnected) im going to laugh at you.

watch the first 0-21k tick, you can see my connection closing due to pootie connecting on same IP. Along with me disconnected because i wanted an explanation as too why i was being gagged/muted for no reason/warning. Yes i dc to re-establish my connection aswell at times.

[Dj panda]

God damn this is not 13 year olds fighting this is 6 year olds fighting over who has the building bricks or legos

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

watch the first 0-21k tick, you can see my connection closing due to pootie connecting on same IP. Along with me disconnected because i wanted an explanation as too why i was being gagged/muted for no reason/warning. Yes i dc to re-establish my connection aswell at times. I cant watch the video, i dont have the map. If you are not lying in the demo it will show that you "Lost connection" vs "User Disconnected" If it says the second you are lying and a fail.

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

I cant watch the video, i dont have the map. If you are not lying in the demo it will show that you "Lost connection" vs "User Disconnected" If it says the second you are lying and a fail.

Says closing connection,not once but multiple times when pootie tried too connect when i was on or when i was trying to connect to the server, pootie may have closing connection ( or dc so i can get back into the servers ).

example too my claims taken straight from the demo: 5567

[brett friggin favre]

Yes i dc to re-establish my connection aswell at times.

this, to me, is a typical bullshit ass lying response. re-establishing your connection doesn't do shit. all it does is (from my understanding) help you evade zombies as human, or let you change to play zombie. as steamer stated in the unban thread, whether it's meant by you or not it is rank manipulation.

i'll withhold my judgement on the ban itself, i wouldn't have the authority to push either way anyways. just wanted to make sure that didn't slip by unnoticed.

[StarsMine]

I have to do that at times, though its usually its alt tabing, disconnecting internet, reconnecting, and then hoping I did it fast enough where my game did not disconnect.

[brett friggin favre]

I have to do that at times, though its usually its alt tabing, disconnecting internet, reconnecting, and then hoping I did it fast enough where my game did not disconnect.

if it happens often enough to even be mistaken for rank manipulating, it's happening way too much. also, note his past:

http://www.ibisgaming.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0%3A1%3A15490062&Submit=

one ban from anex for general exploit, one for disconnecting to avoid a ban. seems to me he likes to use that disconnect feature to cover his ass, why not use it to up his rank?

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

this, to me, is a typical bullshit ass lying response. re-establishing your connection doesn't do shit. all it does is (from my understanding) help you evade zombies as human, or let you change to play zombie. as steamer stated in the unban thread, whether it's meant by you or not it is rank manipulation.

i'll withhold my judgement on the ban itself, i wouldn't have the authority to push either way anyways. just wanted to make sure that didn't slip by unnoticed.

since i don't know much about connections too a server, when playing with pootie on the same ip we sometimes have too re-connect / dc too the server to re-establish our connections. It sometimes allows the other too join without closing the connection from within the server.

[T3h tyrant]

55000 - i disconnected before zombies even coming for me appeared onto my screen, shortly after i rejoin you can see me clearly frustrated with the humans on the map.

Tick 54000(use first person) Holy attempts to grab the lightsaber; being unsuccessful, he moves toward the room’s exit. There, two predators are in clear view and well within his field of vision; he promptly stops short and disconnects by user, successfully avoiding a tag. You had only stopped moving (to press your escape key) after you saw the zombie. One of the preds had his parachute deployed and the other’s shadow was in plain sight. An experienced player such as yourself can easily spot a predator class zombie, huge parachute deployed or not. Holy reconnects to the server shortly. I warn him that he will be sitting out the next round as punishment for disconnecting from zombies. Holy ignores me. When Holy attempts to spawn with the zombies, I promptly slay him. Holy asks for an explanation, but rather than listen, he makes his own assertions, pointedly denies any explanation that I provide, and proceeds with disrespecting me and other players in spectate; claiming that we are pussies and suck too much to play escape maps, the sorts, etc. At this point, Pl@y gags him.

(Rest of the demo) Pootie joins, and we see Holy’s words (and insults) being channeled through him. If you can insult us through Pootie, then you can easily explain to Pootie whatever you said that earned you the gag. Is it that hard to tell him that you were persisting to insult and egg us on? Thus, we left Pootie’s inquiries unanswered, as he seemed to be slightly aware of the situation, but like Holy, somehow found that his existence required better reasoning than “disrespect.”

Now for the cake. Rank manipulation and avoiding the tag process on mako_reactor
Tick12800: Holy reconnects after his connection failed from the previous round. However, rather than join a team, he intentionally stays in spectate. 16 seconds pass, and the first zombies spawn. Holy follows suit 5 seconds later (tick 13900)
His connection fails later that round, and he reconnects at tick 20,000. From there, he stays in spec yet again, waiting the 22 seconds for the zombies to spawn. This time, his spawn is timed milliseconds after the first zombie spawned (intentionally waiting to use zspawn). His connection fails again at 25,400.
Tick 27000: Holy reconnects to the server just as the round ends and stays in spectate. He waits in spectate for 29 seconds; once again, he spawns as soon as the first zombies are selected (tick 30,000). However, this time, he disconnects by user at 37,700, and reconnects as the next round starts (38,000). He waits 26 seconds in spectate, and then spawns with the alpha zombies. Pl@y promptly kicks him at 41000. From tick 42800 on, Holy argues with me and Pl@y. Holy shows that he knows his zspawning on escape maps is boosting his rank insanely as he remarks “scared that I’ll get my rank too high>?” and argues that he is playing as a zombie for “fun.” I warn him to stop spawning as a zombie, to which he replied by repeatedly denied that he was manipulating and claimed that me and Pl@y were wrong because he couldn’t possibly be manipulating just because he says he’s playing zombie for “fun.” Holy continues to go on with his denials and at one point speculates that he will be spawning as a zombie every round and that he could make another account to do just that. I issue a third warning to not spawn late. Pl@y gags him at tick 55,900 for his dogged insistence that “he was not doing anything wrong” and persisting to argue with us. Holy revives the deathstar issue on the mic, asking me what kind of demos I had of him disconnecting from zombies. I only figured out a part of what he said as there was another player talking over Holy, and at the time, the mics in server were cutting out on me. Pl@y mutes Holy, to which he replied with a disconnect. He was then banned for 1440 minutes for circumventing the gag and the mute. This ban was later upgraded for disrupting the tag process and manipulating rank.

You had more than enough time to spawn as a human and buy your weapons. Your spawning at the same time as the first zombies was timed and was no coincidence. The repeated use of zspawn to join illegally was intentional.


A player may not, by any means, bypass the tagging process to continually play as a zombie

Any form of rank manipulation will not be tolerated

As a player who’s been a part of the community for years, as a ZM regular with nearly 1000 hours, and as a former admin you should know the ZM rules. You often quote the rules to other people in server, yet you fail to respect admins as well as other players, you refuse to accept the verdict of the authorities in server, you place yourself above an admin’s punishment, and you have blatantly abused the zspawn feature. This is nothing different from what Hallwagner did late last year.

[Steamer]

Please bring this to attention to clan (Anex may like to deal with this one). Place ban thread and poll in the appropriate sections. I have yet to see one go for rank manipulation, would love to see the results.

Rank Manipulation. /

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

Tick 54000(use first person) Holy attempts to grab the lightsaber; being unsuccessful, he moves toward the room’s exit. There, two predators are in clear view and well within his field of vision; he promptly stops short and disconnects by user, successfully avoiding a tag. You had only stopped moving (to press your escape key) after you saw the zombie. One of the preds had his parachute deployed and the other’s shadow was in plain sight. An experienced player such as yourself can easily spot a predator class zombie, huge parachute deployed or not. Holy reconnects to the server shortly. I warn him that he will be sitting out the next round as punishment for disconnecting from zombies. Holy ignores me. When Holy attempts to spawn with the zombies, I promptly slay him. Holy asks for an explanation, but rather than listen, he makes his own assertions, pointedly denies any explanation that I provide, and proceeds with disrespecting me and other players in spectate; claiming that we are pussies and suck too much to play escape maps, the sorts, etc. At this point, Pl@y gags him.

(Rest of the demo) Pootie joins, and we see Holy’s words (and insults) being channeled through him. If you can insult us through Pootie, then you can easily explain to Pootie whatever you said that earned you the gag. Is it that hard to tell him that you were persisting to insult and egg us on? Thus, we left Pootie’s inquiries unanswered, as he seemed to be slightly aware of the situation, but like Holy, somehow found that his existence required better reasoning than “disrespect.”

Now for the cake. Rank manipulation and avoiding the tag process on mako_reactor
Tick12800: Holy reconnects after his connection failed from the previous round. However, rather than join a team, he intentionally stays in spectate. 16 seconds pass, and the first zombies spawn. Holy follows suit 5 seconds later (tick 13900)
His connection fails later that round, and he reconnects at tick 20,000. From there, he stays in spec yet again, waiting the 22 seconds for the zombies to spawn. This time, his spawn is timed milliseconds after the first zombie spawned (intentionally waiting to use zspawn). His connection fails again at 25,400.
Tick 27000: Holy reconnects to the server just as the round ends and stays in spectate. He waits in spectate for 29 seconds; once again, he spawns as soon as the first zombies are selected (tick 30,000). However, this time, he disconnects by user at 37,700, and reconnects as the next round starts (38,000). He waits 26 seconds in spectate, and then spawns with the alpha zombies. Pl@y promptly kicks him at 41000. From tick 42800 on, Holy argues with me and Pl@y. Holy shows that he knows his zspawning on escape maps is boosting his rank insanely as he remarks “scared that I’ll get my rank too high>?” and argues that he is playing as a zombie for “fun.” I warn him to stop spawning as a zombie, to which he replied by repeatedly denied that he was manipulating and claimed that me and Pl@y were wrong because he couldn’t possibly be manipulating just because he says he’s playing zombie for “fun.” Holy continues to go on with his denials and at one point speculates that he will be spawning as a zombie every round and that he could make another account to do just that. I issue a third warning to not spawn late. Pl@y gags him at tick 55,900 for his dogged insistence that “he was not doing anything wrong” and persisting to argue with us. Holy revives the deathstar issue on the mic, asking me what kind of demos I had of him disconnecting from zombies. I only figured out a part of what he said as there was another player talking over Holy, and at the time, the mics in server were cutting out on me. Pl@y mutes Holy, to which he replied with a disconnect. He was then banned for 1440 minutes for circumventing the gag and the mute. This ban was later upgraded for disrupting the tag process and manipulating rank.

You had more than enough time to spawn as a human and buy your weapons. Your spawning at the same time as the first zombies was timed and was no coincidence. The repeated use of zspawn to join illegally was intentional.




As a player who’s been a part of the community for years, as a ZM regular with nearly 1000 hours, and as a former admin you should know the ZM rules. You often quote the rules to other people in server, yet you fail to respect admins as well as other players, you refuse to accept the verdict of the authorities in server, you place yourself above an admin’s punishment, and you have blatantly abused the zspawn feature. This is nothing different from what Hallwagner did late last year.


You take the time to make a post and it looks like this i haven't been in middle school... this should be good, lets begin.

DEATHSTAR
- You established that you have slayed me for "disconnecting" to avoid being tagged. In doing so, you cannot add the avoiding being tagged apart of a later (in which you did, which is abusing admin + going against the admin rules)

- You claim that i called you pussys and that you were too bad that you couldn;t play escape maps. From your stats and map playing history that is more then likely true, ITS NOT WHAT I SAID. You can see in the ingame chat i said that you sit in spectate because "your bad and can only play pussy cade maps". You got the wording mixed up and have now been caught lieing about what i said and have yet too provide that i have disrespected you or any admin. Must feel pretty stupid you couldnt even comprehend a small statement such as that, instead you twist it into your corner. ( abusing admin + going against tos )

- I got gagged for no reason on deathstar with no warning ( abusing admin ) and when pootie came in; he was at his desk across the room and all i ask him too do was ask why i got gagged, which you couldn't even respond. You just now acknowledged in your post he was their and yet you didn't answer him? You say I channel my insults through him? please it doesn;t take much to insult you or playwithme, it's clearly pretty easy... :lmao: Again accusations with no proof. What proof do you have i deserved a Gag? you have non, nor ever gave me a warning that you were going to do so. (abusing admin powers + lieing again )

so far i have seen that you make shit up to favor your corner, provide some PROOF i disrespected you. You cant say that i disrespected you and cant provide solid proof. (since their isn't any in either demo) Playwithme abused her admin by gagging with no warning, and you disrespected me and pootie by insulting our sexuality "pooties butthurt that his boyfriend is muted". Seems that you are the one disrespecting, seems pretty funny that i can provide evidence and you cant so far.

MAKO

- You have to prove i was rank manipulating after the warnings you have given me. Even in you post you emphasis that you gave me 3 warnings (bolded) and i eventually joined spectate too take a smoke break for a bit. Since I was trying to make a point in the server and you couldn't let me without gagging me, ill quote the post that i was trying to refer to you on the server.



Let me explain: Maybe someone doesn;t wanna be a human, and only likes to be a zombie. So he only plays and joins to be a zombie every round.

Does that make him a rank whore? No.

If i created a stream account just to be a zombie, would that make someone a rank whore?

No, just someone who likes to play as a zombie.

As i said, you need PROOF i was rank manipulating. WERE IS IT?

Just because i type certain things in game doesn't mean i am going to do them. You speculation comes from your mentality since you are a classic rank whore.

- As for the gagging + mute: WHAT exactly did i doo to deserve these? I got gagged and muted for no reason. You still havent provided the reasons why you guys did either of these when i clearly knew i did nothing wrong so i disconnected to come in and ask why i was being abused.

For the kicking and banned, they should have never happen in the first place. You both have abused admin and have been caught on demo. I did nothing wrong; obvious biasness from the admins as to why i got banned. They also did not follow the tos rules and lied too make their claims true.

Don't respond unless you have evidence, you both have abused your adminship and within 24 hours have no claims besides me joining a server and joining zombies when they spawn. After being warned i stopped. (I could argue how vague the rules are since if someone new came into the servers, read our rules, theirs no were within them that specifies to what can be consider rank manipulation and what is/is not allowed when becoming a zombie.)

So their goes anything you could have possibly have banned me for (besides avoiding a false gag+mute which shouldn't have been issued without warnings anyways ). Again your both liars and have been caught in the act, show me your EVIDENCE. All people have to do on my behalf is watch the demo's and their is clearly nothing i did wrong to deserve any of these things. (besides a slay when i "disconnected from a zombie") You even acknowledge i know the rules and yet at the same time your informing me on them? You also said i failed to mention something, when i provided clear evidence for people to view themselves. You contradict yourself too much and your argument is beyond weak, something i expected from playwithme.

[christopher]

re-establishing your connection doesn't do shit.


naw. SM and the source server client resolve players on STEAMID and MAC address. If they were using the same router, then it'd trip a network flag or some other validation mechanism since routers use an independent MAC address to represent a client to a host. so that supports his dual client claim.


re-establishing your connection actually does do shit. it corrects time differences in the network rate and error checking. ever connect to the zm server and hear gargled Voice Chat? that's due to net rates being different from broadcast to listen

[Bane of Soldiers]

naw. SM and the source server client resolve players on STEAMID and MAC address. If they were using the same router, then it'd trip a network flag or some other validation mechanism since routers use an independent MAC address to represent a client to a host. so that supports his dual client claim.
re-establishing your connection actually does do shit. it correct time differences in the network rate and error checking. ever connect to the zm server and hear gargled Voice Chat? that's due to net rates being different from broadcast to listen

All of this talk over his connection is irrelevant due to the fact that Holy joins spectate as the round starts, waits, and spawns immediately with the zombies.

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

All of this talk over his connection is irrelevant due to the fact that Holy joins spectate as the round starts, waits, and spawns immediately with the zombies.

Which wouldn't of happen if my connection didn't close, when i was finally warned i stopped.

As i said, ill message upper admins / clan members to deal with this non-sense. I sense some biasness in this community and people possibly joining into a "groupthink" to protect one another and spread lies.

[christopher]

All of this talk over his connection is irrelevant due to the fact that Holy joins spectate as the round starts, waits, and spawns immediately with the zombies.

not at all. it validates his claim that his originally disco'ed due to another playing/joining under the same MAC address and NOT to 'rank manipulate'. You'd know that IF YOU READ ALL POSTS FROM BOTH SIDES.


tbh HOLY can be annoying, but i have reasonable doubt that he purposely tried to 'rank manipulate'. after watching the demos and playing with him, as well as understanding where he is coming from, i still carry that reasonable doubt.


also, everyone knows that pl@y is a whiny bitch of an admin when people don't follow his borderline power-abusive orders. i had problems with him before i became an admin, so i can see why HOLY wouldn't respect his authority and disco'ed after being gagged.



edit: sorry, pl@y is just a whiny bitch in general

[maynard]

closed. holy is on 1 month ban with final warning issued.

[ZERO]

I will be looking over these demo's as well when I get a chance. However let me say now that if there was nothing going on other than just him tyring to get back into the game asap then he would do just that. For example I would expect to see him try to join a team right away and start playing and not any other behavoir of which would suggest other motives.