-zlm- THE HOLY SH**! STEAM_0:1:15490062 04-28-12 00:24

[TheFallen927]

Name:-zlm- THE HOLY SH**!

Steam id:STEAM_0:1:15490062

Link to ban:http://www.ibisgaming.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0:1:15490062&Submit

Reason:excessive rank manipulation, breaking server rules and insults to admins
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http://www.mediafire.com/?3884jq80imim7gl

Tick 54000(use first person) Holy attempts to grab the lightsaber; being unsuccessful, he moves toward the room’s exit. There, two predators are in clear view and well within his field of vision; he promptly stops short and disconnects by user, successfully avoiding a tag. You had only stopped moving (to press your escape key) after you saw the zombie. One of the preds had his parachute deployed and the other’s shadow was in plain sight. An experienced player such as yourself can easily spot a predator class zombie, huge parachute deployed or not. Holy reconnects to the server shortly. Tyrant warns him that he will be sitting out the next round as punishment for disconnecting from zombies. Holy ignores Tyrant. When Holy attempts to spawn with the zombies, Tyrant promptly slay him. Holy asks for an explanation, but rather than listen, he makes his own assertions, pointedly denies any explanation that Tyrant provides, and proceeds with disrespecting Tyrant and other players in spectate; claiming that we are pussies and suck too much to play escape maps, the sorts, etc. At this point, Pl@y gags him.

(Rest of the demo) Pootie joins, and we see Holy’s words (and insults) being channeled through him. If you can insult us through Pootie, then you can easily explain to Pootie whatever you said that earned you the gag. Is it that hard to tell him that you were persisting to insult and egg us on? Thus, we left Pootie’s inquiries unanswered, as he seemed to be slightly aware of the situation, but like Holy, somehow found that his existence required better reasoning than “disrespect.”

Now for the cake. Rank manipulation and avoiding the tag process on mako reactor
Tick12800: Holy reconnects after his connection failed from the previous round. However, rather than join a team, he intentionally stays in spectate. 16 seconds pass, and the first zombies spawn. Holy follows suit 5 seconds later (tick 13900)
His connection fails later that round, and he reconnects at tick 20,000. From there, he stays in spec yet again, waiting the 22 seconds for the zombies to spawn. This time, his spawn is timed milliseconds after the first zombie spawned (intentionally waiting to use zspawn). His connection fails again at 25,400.
Tick 27000: Holy reconnects to the server just as the round ends and stays in spectate. He waits in spectate for 29 seconds; once again, he spawns as soon as the first zombies are selected (tick 30,000). However, this time, he disconnects by user at 37,700, and reconnects as the next round starts (38,000). He waits 26 seconds in spectate, and then spawns with the alpha zombies. Pl@y promptly kicks him at 41000. From tick 42800 on, Holy argues with tyrant and Pl@y. Holy shows that he knows his zspawning on escape maps is boosting his rank as he remarks “scared that I’ll get my rank too high>?” and argues that he is playing as a zombie for “fun.” Tyrant warns him to stop spawning as a zombie, to which he replied by repeatedly denied that he was manipulating and claimed that Tyrant and Pl@y were wrong because he couldn’t possibly be manipulating just because he says he’s playing zombie for “fun.” Holy continues to go on with his denials and at one point speculates that he will be spawning as a zombie every round and that he could make another account to do just that. Tyrant issues a third warning to not spawn late. Pl@y gags him at tick 55,900 for his dogged insistence that “he was not doing anything wrong” and persisting to argue with us. Holy revives the deathstar issue on the mic, asking Tyrant what kind of demos he had of him disconnecting from zombies. Tyrant only figured out a part of what he said as there was another player talking over Holy, and at the time, the mics in server were cutting out on Tyrant. Pl@y mutes Holy, to which he replied with a disconnect. He was then banned for 1440 minutes for circumventing the gag and the mute. This ban was later upgraded for disrupting the tag process and manipulating rank.

You had more than enough time to spawn as a human and buy your weapons. Your spawning at the same time as the first zombies was timed and was no coincidence. The repeated use of zspawn to join illegally was intentional.

A player may not, by any means, bypass the tagging process to continually play as a zombie
Any form of rank manipulation will not be tolerated
As a player who’s been a part of the community for years, as a ZM regular with nearly 1000 hours, and as a former admin you should know the ZM rules. You often quote the rules to other people in server, yet you fail to respect admins as well as other players, you refuse to accept the verdict of the authorities in server, you place yourself above an admin’s punishment, and you have blatantly abused the zspawn feature. This is nothing different from what Hallwagner did late last year.

Just posting to get this resolved

Link posted for mako demo.

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

you weren't their so how could you even post on this?

Talk about protecting rank, lets discuss the admins who abuse the power by changing to easy cade maps and sitting in spectate because they dont want to gain more deaths for harder maps.

If thats the case then the entire top 5 would be ban, besides wuman and maybe taco paco. Stop with this rank manipulation bullshit when the obvious offenders are the ones who avoid playing many maps and just sit in spectate to wait for the easy ones.

The fallen, venemous, teh tyrant, playwithme, taco paco, should all be ban for rank manipulation in that case. Provided from sitting in spectate for over 5 hours and skipping over harder maps just to wait for the easy ones.

If your going to come after with this rank manipulation, best actually know what your talking about fallen as i've seen you and 4 different admins join late in a round just to be zombie.

STOP PLAYING THE ADMIN-SHIP CARD. It doesn't work, even after my warnings from teh tyrant we established that i stopped after the warnings. So don't post shit you know nothing about, especially when you abused the system more then anyone else.

Pathetic you would even post on a situation you know nothing about, especially when you have rank manipulation and abusing admin privileges to gain higher rank aswell.

[alex_mamaroneck]

WHAT RULE HE BROKE:

v2.3 Anex
•Other - A player may not, by any means, bypass the tagging process to continually play as a zombie.
•Other - Any form of rank manipulation will not be tolerated.

SITE: http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/5831-Zm-Rules-v2.4

THE DAY OF THE INCIDENT:
MAKO FFVII MAP - WHERE HOLY GOT BANNED - RIGHT AFTER THE DEATH STAR MAP THAT THE FALLEN POSTED
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AFTER WATCHING THE DEMO OF MAKO, COPYING TEXT, TAKING A PICTURE OF THE SCORE BEFORE HE WAS BANNED... YES I BELIEVE HE WAS "RANK MANIPULATING"

TICK 22000 – log as a zombie one second after zombie spawn
25275 – disconnects right before round is over
27400 – holy joins stays in spec
30000 – log as a zombie one second after zombie spawn
37675 – disconnect after tagging last player then joins and stays in spec while nominating maps
39800 – holy joins one second after zombie spawns
40600 – kicked by Pl@y and he came back
58000 – gagged by Pl@y
62000 – kicked by play
63000 – joined
65000 – banned
77000 – zml pootie claims holy is buying admin

Conversation during mako
STEAM_0:1:15490062 | IP: 76.190.194.172 | -zlm- THE HOLY SH**!
STEAM_0:1:49024090 | IP: 76.190.194.172 | -zlm- Pootie Too Good
STEAM_0:1:27075768 Bane of Soldiers
STEAM_0:0:34452432 T3h Tyrant <ibis.a
STEAM_0:1:36704267 Pl@Y ibis.a

*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : gonna cry some more?
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : i love rank
*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : not crying
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : seems like it
*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : im playung as zombie play im not rank manipulating
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : dont spawn late
*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : oyu cant rprove any rank manipulation when ive clearly said i play zombie for fun,
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : it doesnt matter
*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : it does
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : if the console choses you then you play as zombie
*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : i could create a steam account and play as zombie only on the account
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : other then that suck it up
*SPEC* Bane of Soldiers : You cannot abuse the zspawn feature
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : then ill ban it
*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : so if i go 15-0 as azombie every roind would tht be rank maniuplating:?
*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : no its cuz im going to be zombie every oround
*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : weres this rank manipulating rule?
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : just dont do it
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : its your only warning
*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : im not doing anything wrong
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : oh but you are
*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : you sitting in spectate every ze and only playing pussy cades is rank manipulating
*SPEC* Pl@Y ibis.a : !gag holy
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : lol cant hear him cause mic lag
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : but i hear bitching
*SPEC* Pl@Y ibis.a : !mute holy
-zlm- THE HOLY SH**! connected.
-zlm- THE HOLY SH**! connected.

*SPEC* Pl@Y ibis.a : !kick holy

-zlm- THE HOLY SH**! connected.

*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : tf w
*SPEC* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : wtf was i kicked for now?

(Holy got banned by play)

-zlm- Pootie Too Good connected.

*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : out of curiousity, how long is holy's ban
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : i dont really give a shit
*SPEC* Bane of Soldiers : i think it said 1440 min, idk
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : its 24 hours i think i dont know
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : what were the terms of it? like what
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : he's buying admin now lol
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : avoiding tag admin disrespect spawning zombie
*SPEC* Bane of Soldiers : disrespect, abusing zspawn, and avoiding mute/gag
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : well the last time he spawned as zombie was because you kicked him right before the round
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : haha
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : you were both wrong in the situation, but youll win due to paying 11 dollars a month haha
*SPEC* Bane of Soldiers : False. We'll see on the thread.
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : but i dont understand why you can just talk shit and when we try to reply, its disrespect. why should we respect you when you
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : are calling me his boyfriend?
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : because you pay $11 a month?
*DEAD* j3T : yeah fuck off kid stop riding his dick
*SPEC* Bane of Soldiers : idk, but calling admins pussy rankwhores is pretty disrespectful
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : yeahhh
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : i can agree with that
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : and hes avoiding a tag?
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : i didnt see that so i cant comment on it, but he was complaining the entire round about retarded cts
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : doesnt matter
*SPEC* -zlm- Pootie Too Good : youll find im far more reasonable
*SPEC* T3h Tyrant <ibis.a> : he doesnt follow rules

THIS SCORE SHOWS HIS RANK MANIPULATION BEFORE HE WAS BANNED
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FOR THE RECORD I BANNED HIM FOR A DAY WHEN HE CADE BROKE AND DISCONNECTED FROM A ZOMBIE RIGHT AFTER
http://www.ibisgaming.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0:1:15490062&Submit

IN CONCLUSION: i really believe holy has a mental problem of accepting what he did wrong. i'm no doctor on that but i'm sure the majority of the people who viewed these threads about him agree with me.

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

i could care less for stats, you could remove me from the stats page all i care about.

Thank you for providing the chat conversation. No were did i disrespect or get any warnings about being muted/gagged. Thank you for clearing that up for poeople to see that tyrant and play were lieing about it all along and went against the tos.

As to were pootie said im getting admin, doesn;t mean it's true. I don't plan on getting admin anytime soon.

Alex, you failed to mention were my connection kepy closing due too pootie joining. I would of stayed as a human if i was not getting kicked when we tried to connect on the same ip. As tyrant and I said, after the 3 warnings i stopped this "rank manipulation" and i was abused then falsley banned from poor adminship.

[alex_mamaroneck]

i could care less for stats, you could remove me from the stats page all i care about.

I think our main goal is to remove you from ibis...

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

FOR THE RECORD I BANNED HIM FOR A DAY WHEN HE CADE BROKE AND DISCONNECTED FROM A ZOMBIE RIGHT AFTER
http://www.ibisgaming.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0:1:15490062&Submit

IN CONCLUSION: i really believe holy has a mental problem of accepting what he did wrong. i'm no doctor on that but i'm sure the majority of the people who viewed these threads about him agree with me.

This is were you just made yourself look like an idiot alex. You banned me for a day for falling off the map on jurrasic park, yet you are too stupid too remember and yet, another admin making up a lie. Your arguments and points are now irrelevant since you are too stupid and post bullshit without getting the facts/information correctly.

http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/8661-unban-the-holy-sh**!

which i got unbanned because it was an unreasonable amount of time, fucking idiots these days.. You think i don't understand rank manipulation? Prove that i continuosly rank manipulate?

Till then, non of your accusations can be proven. As for the mak0 map, some people can't seem to read or understand the concept that i stopped after being warned.

Any other idiots going too lie about what happens?

[Bane of Soldiers]

Talk about protecting rank, lets discuss the admins who abuse the power by changing to easy cade maps and sitting in spectate because they dont want to gain more deaths for harder maps. Senior admin = play whatever they want. I don't get why people keep fighting this


If thats the case then the entire top 5 would be ban, besides wuman and maybe taco paco. Stop with this rank manipulation bullshit when the obvious offenders are the ones who avoid playing many maps and just sit in spectate to wait for the easy ones. The fallen, venemous, teh tyrant, playwithme, taco paco, should all be ban for rank manipulation in that case. Provided from sitting in spectate for over 5 hours and skipping over harder maps just to wait for the easy ones. If your going to come after with this rank manipulation, best actually know what your talking about fallen as i've seen you and 4 different admins join late in a round just to be zombie. No proof, plus by your definition, you're saying that playing the maps that you enjoy is rank manipulating. Using that logic, we should all get banned for using the nominate command. You are making up your own definition of rank manipulating. The charge of rank manipulation is for abusing the !zspawn feature knowing that you are padding your rank.



Bringing in other people and flaming them is uncalled for. Flaming people involved is also uncalled for. Fallen simply posted this to speed the resolving process. Wait for upper level admins or clan to review. People not providing any insight, making accusations without proof, making separate and unrelated accusations, going away from the topic, and pretty much anyone unrelated to this case and its resolution should keep their posts to themselves.

[Dj panda]

Your Definition is wrong, and so what if they wanna sit out on the harder maps, its their choice to be bored for 20-40 minutes not yours. Stop acting like you know our rules and than twisting them in your favour. You were doing something wrong, take the punishment for it.

[TheFallen927]

I was talking about the ones not on rotation

[Pl@YwithM3]

Senior admin who sits out hard maps - changes to easy maps - plays easy maps = rank manipulating. You should only be in spectate if your afk for a few mins, watching a hacker or cannot join a team. Being in afk for 5 hours in a row as hard maps are played is the defenition of a rank manipulator since they know they are not good enough to keep up with their skill, like they could on the easier maps.

The whole point was i was blantley abused and i am only being banned from biased admins. Now people want to chime in and falsely accuse me of stuff, i'll back up my information with facts anytime.

ze maps are boring as fuck in my opinion so no, I DONT PLAY THEM,. i nominate maps i enjoy and then play those instead. and no dont bother coming back with the whole "thats rank manipulation" when anyone on here will tell you i dont give a flying fuck about ranking. i play what i enjoy, not what gets me skill points. why did i sit out on indiana jones, death star and mako reactor you ask? hmm.. well for one they were ALL ESCAPE MAPS and second i was doing my job spectating people and making sure stupid kids like you dont go breaking our rules. too scared to play "hard maps" my ass. tyrant and i were both specking you all 3 of those maps as you blaitently broke countless rules at a time until you crossed the line and i banned you for it. we posted the proof in your abuse thread and youre just too butthurt and arogent to fess up. quit your bitching and accept it

THANK YOU ADMINS

anyone else whos outside of whats happening in this thread, shut the fuck up and stop posting you have no idea whats going on. what happens here now is entirely in the hands of CLAN and ULA

[alex_mamaroneck]

This is were you just made yourself look like an idiot alex. You banned me for a day for falling off the map on jurrasic park, yet you are too stupid too remember and yet, another admin making up a lie. Your arguments and points are now irrelevant since you are too stupid and post bullshit without getting the facts/information correctly.

http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/8661-unban-the-holy-sh**!

which i got unbanned because it was an unreasonable amount of time, fucking idiots these days.. You think i don't understand rank manipulation? Prove that i continuosly rank manipulate?

Till then, non of your accusations can be proven. As for the mak0 map, some people can't seem to read or understand the concept that i stopped after being warned.

Any other idiots going too lie about what happens?

you see this is when your mental problem comes into play: you are talking about the first time i banned you but i'm talking about the second time i banned you.
look at the link again: http://www.ibisgaming.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0:1:15490062&Submit
the second time i banned u... WHY DID I BAN U FOR A DAY THE SECOND TIME???
remember Euronews? u cade broke and disconnected to avoid a ban or getting tagged? REMEMBER???!!! HERE LEMME GIVE YOU A DEMO TO REFRESH YOUR MENTALLY-DEMENTED ROLODEX

TICK 64000

after i banned you for a day the second time u didn't even post an abuse thread NOR complained and u realized who your daddy was... calling me stupid, bullshitting, not having my facts right??? nah man, u do have a problem...

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

you see this is when your mental problem comes into play: you are talking about the first time i banned you but i'm talking about the second time i banned you.
look at the link again: http://www.ibisgaming.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0:1:15490062&Submit
the second time i banned u... WHY DID I BAN U FOR A DAY THE SECOND TIME???
remember Euronews? u cade broke and disconnected to avoid a ban or getting tagged? REMEMBER???!!! HERE LEMME GIVE YOU A DEMO TO REFRESH YOUR MENTALLY-DEMENTED ROLODEX

TICK 64000

after i banned you for a day the second time u didn't even post an abuse thread NOR complained and u realized who your daddy was... calling me stupid, bullshitting, not having my facts right??? nah man, u do have a problem...

My appologise, i thought you were reffering to the one about jurrasic park. That ban is justified but it doesn't matter if i cade broke that kids cade, i would of destroyed his cade as a zombie no problem. I gave him a better chance by throwing a nade and me coming in to actually help build a cade for him.

Don't think your my daddy, your just a bit happy that i forgot some stupid cade breaking incident when i could of easily fixed his already doom cade.


Refer to my post about shutting the fuck up if you aren't helping to resolve this. You've never been active on the forums, you don't know what you're talking about. Let's bring you up to speed. Rank manipulation earns you a month or more from IBIS. The fact that he's been playing for three, no, nearly four, years is actually a problem. Thus, he should know the rules. For the past year, he's had a history of walking the line with respecting admins and other players and walks an equally thin line with the server rules. As for the points, you should look at the grand scope. His skill has has experienced a 133% increase since the beginning of this month


Now, for a second time, everyone just shut the fuck up until a clan member/upper level admin gets to review this thread.

If you haven't noticed, i've been active for the past month on the zm so of course my skill would go up. I know the rules, i can walk the thin line without crossing, its within my jurasdiction and not in the rules. Admins who abuse, disrespect, break rules don't deserve my respect so i will not give them any at anytime.

I am going to wait and see what an upper-level admin/clan member has too say. I know the rules, not my fault they are soo undefined. You can't believe what every admin has too say unless they explain themselves, inwhich tyrant and playwithme could not do when i ask them to justify their actions within game, thus resulting in admin abuse.

[alex_mamaroneck]

My appologise, i thought you were reffering to the one about jurrasic park. That ban is justified but it doesn't matter if i cade broke that kids cade, i would of destroyed his cade as a zombie no problem. I gave him a better chance by throwing a nade and me coming in to actually help build a cade for him.

Don't think your my daddy, your just a bit happy that i forgot some stupid cade breaking incident when i could of easily fixed his already doom cade.

again your mental problems.... i didn't ban you for a day because you cade broke... i banned you for a day because you disconnected to avoid a ban of breaking that player's cade. god you are shit at this!!! i suggest you stop talking... ur digging a bigger hole in this...

[Pl@YwithM3]

Now, for a second time, everyone just shut the fuck up until a clan member/upper level admin gets to review this thread.
what part of this statement dont you all understand? i dont care who you are or what personal feelings youre compelled to share, this isnt the place for it

christopher you have 7 POSTS total, i promise that anything you say here will be disregarded and deleted the second clan sees it

NOW UNLESS YOURE CLAN OR ULA STFU

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

what part of this statement dont you all understand? i dont care who you are or what personal feelings youre compelled to share, this isnt the place for it

christopher you have 7 POSTS total, i promise that anything you say here will be disregarded and deleted the second clan sees it

NOW UNLESS YOURE CLAN OR ULA STFU

Takes you over a day and a half to finally answer too any of these claims, in which you have yet too provide evidence of my wrong doing and i have evidence of you abusing your adminship and going against the tos. Must suck getting caught up in your own lies.


again your mental problems.... i didn't ban you for a day because you cade broke... i banned you for a day because you disconnected to avoid a ban of breaking that player's cade. god you are shit at this!!! i suggest you stop talking... ur digging a bigger hole in this...

Do you have proof too me disconnecting to avoid being banned? i prob disconnected after getting tagged because i was prob tired or didn't want to play with that bullshit anymore. Prove i disconnected to avoid a ban, which you can do anytime with my steam id..

Your pretty stupid, but from your idiodic termonology; i got that already.

[Bane of Soldiers]

My appologise, i thought you were reffering to the one about jurrasic park. That ban is justified but it doesn't matter if i cade broke that kids cade, i would of destroyed his cade as a zombie no problem. I gave him a better chance by throwing a nade and me coming in to actually help build a cade for him. Don't think your my daddy, your just a bit happy that i forgot some stupid cade breaking incident when i could of easily fixed his already doom cade. If you haven't noticed, i've been active for the past month on the zm so of course my skill would go up. I know the rules, i can walk the thin line without crossing, its within my jurasdiction and not in the rules. Admins who abuse, disrespect, break rules don't deserve my respect so i will not give them any at anytime.

This attitude. Is exactly why these admins are biased against you. Nearly four years under your belt and a former admin, and intentionally breaking the rules. Just because you think you're a better player does not mean that you can harass admins and place yourself above the server rules.
And no. That ban on Jurassic was justified; you were only unbanned because it was too long.
http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/8661-unban-the-holy-sh**!


Throwing away the past, here is the procedure you failed to follow.
First of all, you NEVER take the liberty to remove a ban and gag from yourself....

What you SHOULD do is try and resolve it privately on server or over steam. You should not continue to argue with admins excessively. If that fails, then you go to the forums. You did not attempt the first solution and went to the forums after being banned for several infractions.

.....And to Christopher, don't be ridiculous. Of course rank goes up, but with his amount of skill, 133% is a large jump.



My first post's attempt to curb flaming has failed -__-

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

This attitude. Is exactly why these admins are biased against you. Nearly four years under your belt and a former admin, and intentionally breaking the rules. Just because you think you're a better player does not mean that you can harass admins and place yourself above the server rules.
And no. That ban on Jurassic was justified; you were only unbanned because it was too long.
http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/8661-unban-the-holy-sh**!


Throwing away the past, here is the procedure you failed to follow.
First of all, you NEVER take the liberty to remove a ban and gag from yourself....

What you SHOULD do is try and resolve it privately on server or over steam. You should not continue to argue with admins excessively. If that fails, then you go to the forums. You did not attempt the first solution and went to the forums after being banned for several infractions.

.....And to Christopher, don't be ridiculous. Of course rank goes up, but with his amount of skill, 133% is a large jump.



My first post's attempt to curb flaming has failed -__-

I dont think im better then anyone, and i think i have the same opinion as any other regular on this server. Just because those are my thoughts about that kids cade, I understand the consequences of breaking someoens cade. Did i know i was going to get banned? No but at anytime if someone breaks a cade, they should know the consqeuences. I still would of broken his cade, that bookshelf would of been on the ground instantly if i got tagged and went after him. Do i think im better then people? I would say most but i don't need to go prancing around with the false attidude you have tagged me as cocky/arrogant/untouchable. I know the game and i know what im doing, the rank manipulation ban is unjustified because i stopped after i was warn. I only got ban because i "avoided" a false mute in which playwithme got a hard on and ban me excsseivley over, when she shouldn't of banned me for rank manipulation ( as i said, bias and abusing ). She had no right at anytime to do anything, with no given warnings.

idk what people don't understand about that, the rank manipulation was only giving too me after an admin abused their powers. My skill goes up massively when i am on along time,i put in prob 100 hours this month with the given free time i finally have. I bet it would just continue to rise.

[alex_mamaroneck]

Do you have proof too me disconnecting to avoid being banned? i prob disconnected after getting tagged because i was prob tired or didn't want to play with that bullshit anymore. Prove i disconnected to avoid a ban, which you can do anytime with my steam id..

Your pretty stupid, but from your idiodic termonology; i got that already.

kid, when are you going to stop digging? u seemed ok that i banned you for a day for cade breaking and disconnecting to avoid a ban. it was on the ban list under Reason. u didn't complain so that is legit proof that u were ok that you were banned for disconnecting to avoid a ban. otherwhise you would explain yourself on that day why u disconnected right after u cade broke. YOU said you were tired?... tired for a whole day? u were trying to log back right after euronews.... relax kid... u lost this argument... just stop digging...

[Steamer]

As long as you have played here, I would assume you would know better.

Be it you meant to pull rank manipulation or not, you did. This is not tolerated at all, in any server, not just ZM.

I'm sorry bud, I have known you a long time, but you are in the wrong and should of known better with all the shit going on before. I must vote yes. No hard feelings, if you take them that way, nothing I can do.

This is no different than what Hallwagner would of gotten if not for blowing his last chance at other things.

Rank isn't what it use to be and is no were near as hard to gain with all the current forms of manipulation, anyone in the high rankings now would of had a much harder time long ago.

While you may not take it seriously, others do. Rank is there for a reason, always will be, and should NOT be manipulated.

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

As long as you have played here, I would assume you would know better.

Be it you meant to pull rank manipulation or not, you did. This is not tolerated at all, in any server, not just ZM.

I'm sorry bud, I have known you a long time, but you are in the wrong and should of known better with all the shit going on before. I must vote yes. No hard feelings, if you take them that way, nothing I can do.

This is no different than what Hallwagner would of gotten if not for blowing his last chance at other things.

Rank isn't what it use to be and is no were near as hard to gain with all the current forms of manipulation, anyone in the high rankings now would of had a much harder time long ago.

While you may not take it seriously, others do. Rank is there for a reason, always will be, and should NOT be manipulated.

It's fine, i understand but the issue here was i stopped after i was informed that i was "rank manipulating" when i had no intentions of manipulating my rank. Their assumption was i was doing it for rank, when my bro pootie kept connecting, i kept getting "closing my connection" and i would join the first group of zombies who spawned. I was unaware i was "rank manipulating" and while i got falsely gagged + muted and evaded both too try and get an answer why an abusive admin was using these commands on me for no reason / warning i got kicked + ban, which then they added the "avoiding to get tagged + rank manipulating. I already got slayed for the one previous slay of "disconnecting from zombies", and i got warnings to "stop rank manipulating" which i did after i got warned.

So they abused their adminship which eventually resulted in a false banned + added on previous offenses too the banned which had already been settled. These 2 should not have admin and i will not give any respect too these 2 admins or any admins that abuse their powers and break tos rules. They both lied and could not provide any details about my disrespecting and such. The only thing they have is my connection getting closed, i kept rejoining when the first group of zombies spawn, i do it for a few rounds and finally get warned not too. Since no1 seems too be understanding this, they just keep the focus on the rank manipulating, which the server rules do a poor job at explaining what actions involve rank manipulation.

So if im in the server with 2 abusive admins, do you think im going to take their word? I only did when i got a warning too stop since i knew how loose the server rule is.


kid, when are you going to stop digging? u seemed ok that i banned you for a day for cade breaking and disconnecting to avoid a ban. it was on the ban list under Reason. u didn't complain so that is legit proof that u were ok that you were banned for disconnecting to avoid a ban. otherwhise you would explain yourself on that day why u disconnected right after u cade broke. YOU said you were tired?... tired for a whole day? u were trying to log back right after euronews.... relax kid... u lost this argument... just stop digging...

Kid...?Your taking someone's ideology/logic and trying to make it seem like I have a mental problem. Just cause someone doesn't agree with you or doesn't care for your opinion/input doesn't make someone mentally challenge. Stop with this digging hole thing, you act like you have any jurisdiction in ibis when you are just another 11 dollars a month; like the rest of the admins. As i said, i would of destroy that kids cade human or zombie either way, mind as-well try too make him live as a human by letting someone who knows how to properly cade a room into his cade.

[T3h tyrant]

sorry i would have made this thread but i was gone all day today. thanks alot fallen :wtg:

[CYBER]

oh for fuck's sake holy...
u and me we go way back ,why would you put yourself in a situation where the obvious choice for me is to vote yes...
FUCK.

to be honest i havent kept track of all your exploits recently, but i have been informed in GG that you keep team attacking as well, specially when it's pinkie foxie... but i honestly dont know how all of that ZM manipulation crap works, so im NOT gonna vote yes on it , simply bcos i only vote YES when i am convinced myself of smthn, and being clueless about zm ranking, i just honestly dnt give a fuck.


What i suggest is that, we keep his current month ban. Surely a rank whore would find it "displeasing" when he loses a month of rank whoring... all his work gone for nthn.
After the month, ANY, and i mean ANY abuse thread against him, i'd be the first to vote YES...
i'll have to think about it if i vote a perma, or last chance... ppl like rezel and anex with more experience in ZM ranking would probably have more insight on the matter than me.

[Steamer]

I second this month ban lesson rather than perma, there was just no option for it.

Rezel and Anex should way in on this one.

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

oh for fuck's sake holy...
u and me we go way back ,why would you put yourself in a situation where the obvious choice for me is to vote yes...
FUCK.

to be honest i havent kept track of all your exploits recently, but i have been informed in GG that you keep team attacking as well, specially when it's pinkie foxie... but i honestly dont know how all of that ZM manipulation crap works, so im NOT gonna vote yes on it , simply bcos i only vote YES when i am convinced myself of smthn, and being clueless about zm ranking, i just honestly dnt give a fuck.


What i suggest is that, we keep his current month ban. Surely a rank whore would find it "displeasing" when he loses a month of rank whoring... all his work gone for nthn.
After the month, ANY, and i mean ANY abuse thread against him, i'd be the first to vote YES...
i'll have to think about it if i vote a perma, or last chance... ppl like rezel and anex with more experience in ZM ranking would probably have more insight on the matter than me.

Thanks for your input cyber, I understand.

If you check the gun-game stats, I haven't been on GG in awhile, my bro pootie can clear that up for you since it was him who was doing so; he had his reasons though.

-zlm- Pootie Too Good: cyber said you were tking pinkie fox, say that's incorrect, ppinke pie was attacking me and i tk'd her once because i got mad at the person for attacking me intentionally round after round.

As for the banned i think it should have been uplifted by now for admin abuse. If i was going to get banned for rank manipulation, they would of done it when the offense occured. Not after a few mins of disrespecting me, lieing about what i said, gagging+muting me for no reason. Then kicking + banning me for no reason. THEY WARNED ME TOO STOP SO I DID, I WAS NOT BANNED UNTIL PLAYWITHME ABUSED HER POWERS BY GAGGING + MUTING ME FOR NO REASON AND I BY-PASSED THESE ACTIONS BY DISCONNECTING. If you don't see the apparant biasness in their decision to add onto the ban, then your delusuional.

[Rezel]

As far as this ban goes I have not have time to fully review as I am currently studying for my finals next week. That being said if you look at his records he has not had very long bans, 1-2 weeks at max so its unfair to sit here and perm ban him. Even if he had bans before our current system unless we have actual hardcore proof that's legit It will not be counted. Another note on zombie is that people do not like maps so they tend to spectate or leave because they just don't want to play it. If you do not wish to play a map it is legal to leave however it can be misinterpreted in many ways as stat hacking. Anex or I will review it, however I am currently busy trying to get finals dont without getting off task, and anex is extremely busy with his own matters.

I will try to hit this later tonight but I Disagree with a permanent ban.

[Steamer]

Now isn't the time to push your luck Holy. Biased or not, you did what was said. Calling people delusional isn't gonna help you any.

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

Now isn't the time to push your luck Holy. Biased or not, you did what was said. Calling people delusional isn't gonna help you any.

I know but if your going to banned me for rank manipulating, why not do it when the offense occurs. I've been waiting for playwithme to respond, it's been about 2 days she hasn't because she knowingly abused her powers. Since she has failed to provide any evidence too the accusations she claimed, i feel i should be unbanned.

[Steamer]

You've defended yourself with the facts, just stop while your actually "ahead".

[Pl@YwithM3]

I know but if your going to banned me for rank manipulating, why not do it when the offense occurs. I've been waiting for playwithme to respond, it's been about 2 days she hasn't because she knowingly abused her powers. Since she has failed to provide any evidence too the accusations she claimed, i feel i should be unbanned.

and i feel you should put a sock in it, my responce was tied in with everything tyrant had responded with in your abuse thread towards me. the evidence is all over that demo with the provided tic marks and i didnt abuse shit. hence why every single admin (as well as others) thus far has agreed the ban was justified.

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

and i feel you should put a sock in it, my responce was tied in with everything tyrant had responded with in your abuse thread towards me. the evidence is all over that demo with the provided tic marks and i didnt abuse shit. hence why every single admin (as well as others) thus far has agreed the ban was justified.

WRONG loool you cant come up with so-call evidence. Prove it right now.

- Were did i disrespect an admin, exactly which tic mark. He failed to mention that and you have been hiden behind tyrants weak accusations.
- Show were i deserved a mute and gag, better yet show the warnings you gave prior to them.
- actually multiple admins have disagreed, even a clan member says a perma-ban is not appropriate.

You have been caught in your bullshit, your an awful admin and dont follow the tos. The demo's clearly showing you doing the following things in my abuse post and after 2 days you still failed to provide any evidence of what you claim to banned me for.

Hiding behind tyrants post makes you a coward, weak and lazy to defend for yourself. You are a joke of an admin and have no individualism.

[Pl@YwithM3]

if all that wasnt admin disrepect i dont know what is

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

if all that wasnt admin disrepect i dont know what is

My point exactly, you cant lmao!

[Steamer]

if all that wasnt admin disrepect i dont know what is

Your not an admin here. These are the forums, not the server. So no, it wasn't.

[maynard]

holy will serve a 1 month ban, with a final warning.

closed, resolved.