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Treehoe
06-24-2012, 12:37 AM
Name in Game: Treehoe
Steam-ID: STEAM_0:1:45958378
Who banned you: Brett Favre/ Maynard
When: 06-23-12
Where: WCS
Why banned: XP Manilpulation
Link to ban:http://www.ibisgaming.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=Treehoe&Submit=

Earlier today the server was starting to get empty until i was the only one sitting in spectator. Bigboss ( another WCS regular) joined and yes, we did plant/defuse the
objective on Dust2 for at most 4 rounds of gameplay. That rule i understand was broken. But i was told that i have been warned before for this, yet ive never done
anything like this before. Cyber claims that i was xp boosting before because ive died on a high lvl race giving 200+ xp from dying? if there was a demo of me standing still letting someone kill me please show me because i know ive never had that happen. I even know the map it was descused on. Even still for BigBoss this was his first offence and he recieved a week ban. Dont you think if ive done it before i wouldve been banned then? Of course not because i never broke the rule until today where i recieved the Perma Ban.


All in all, I only admit to breaking one of the server rules once, and that was xp manipulating ( even for the short time it was) which is a bannable offence. But other than that ive caused No problems for the server, if fact I'd say 90% of people on the server would say im fun to play with. I just think the Perma on first offence seems harse, Especially since the "warning" i supposedly recieved has no evidence of me ever breaking the rule other than today.

brett friggin favre
06-24-2012, 01:15 AM
the incident today occurred in the demo below, ticks 18k for 2 rounds, 29k, and i'm not sure what the word is on this but at 46.8k he slays himself to buy more tomes.

let me also add that tree and bigboss seemed to have this planned out. they didn't have to discuss it or anything, just did it as if it was business as usual. that tells me it's not the first time they've done this, but i don't have demos of the other times.

http://uploading.com/files/8c715c1m/treelonely.dem/

Treehoe
06-24-2012, 01:19 AM
I can tell you right now, by the time i slayed myself for tomes it was easily 20+ minutes into the map and other players were present, i was having a good run and actually ended up 80-20 or so, i wasnt on a maxed race or anything to i slayed myself to spent my cash. and as far as knowing what to do for xp exploiting, if you ever have done an objective in a WCS you would realize that you get xp for objectives. anyone with a brain would notice that. you make it sound like its super hard to come up with something like that....

brett friggin favre
06-24-2012, 01:20 AM
and as far as knowing what to do for xp exploiting, if you ever have done an objective in a WCS you would realize that you get xp for objectives. anyone with a brain would notice that. you make it sound like its super hard to come up with something like that....

not saying it's hard to figure out, but it was planned in advance. that much is rather clear.

Treehoe
06-24-2012, 01:29 AM
Also i would like to note, it was disscussed prior to the 2nd round starting in steam chat to plant/defuse. ( yes im admitting to breaking the rule)
so by "planned in advance" yes it was, by about a minute.

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let me also add that tree and bigboss seemed to have this planned out. they didn't have to discuss it or anything, just did it as if it was business as usual. that tells me it's not the first time they've done this, but i don't have demos of the other times.
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And that is because there are no demos besides this one, it has never been done by myself or bigboss prior to this event.

Pit_Viper1
06-24-2012, 01:31 AM
I gonna have to chime in here because I'm not sure how to look at this perma. I myself have never seen Treehoe manipulating the rank system, but I agree that something has to be done since he is a regular on the server and knows the rules. A perma seems a bit harsh for the first offense with evidence, perhaps a 48 hour ban and resetting his levels would be a little more fitting, with the understanding that if he is caught again he will need to find a new server to play on.

Anyway. That is my view on this. I know that my opinion has no sway over the unban request or anything for that matter, but I have been a guest of this community for a while now and this seems a bit harsh.

CYBER
06-24-2012, 01:32 AM
dnt have anything personally against u , i enjoy playin with u ,
but i did warn you before that level farming is a perma ban offence.
you were about to exchange kills with a friend on assault by going out as a T vaga and not using ur ultimate and shooting... just walking around and getting killed ,heck u probably already did it couple of times that map without me noticing until i died and saw u getting killed without teleporting.

so i was jokingly saying "why didnt u use ur ulti??" u explained the above process u were doing...

i called u on that saying that not allowed and u said "iim suiciding, whats wrong with that?"
then u went and said "so if i was a vagabond and i just walked to ct spawn and didnt shoot or use my ultimate at all, is that level farming?"

i said that im almost sure, but i went either to maynard to confirm all my commands so that i always have the updated answers to everything.

i went to ask maynard and he said its not allowed , since u are intentionally doing it , and specially because u were trying to get killed just by 1 guy, cant remember who tho...
when i told u about it i said the following:
being a high level vagabond (u were along the lv 46/50) ur xp output can greatly benefit a new player... so dont suicide intentionally to give xp... and i also said why would u even fuck up ur kdr?
u said well im just suiciding with a friend for fun, i dont even need to use my ultimate. i do it all the time, didnt think it was a big deal.

so i chalked it up to u dumbing up, or kidding around when u said u did it all the time and making a mistake since there was no demo...
and explained the issue to maynard.
i specifically remmeber that conversation and the map (assault) because i referred to maynard since it was based on ur word of mouth. his response was also to warn u , and tell u that if u ever got caught on tape level farming... u;d be perma banned. maynard can attest to that.

obviously im paraphrasing with my own language and memory, but be 100% sure that i did warn you,
i usually keep a demo of all my warnings just to avoid scenarios like that, i just cant find it... so it must be labeled under a previous demo...
i started recording all my warnings a couple months ago or so, so if i find that demo u will look like a tard if u claimed u didnt...
just saying..

tl/dr
anywho, my input on it is that treehoe was already warned before by me, and he dodged a perma ban offence last time simply because there was no demo of him committing the level farming, being based on his word that he did it before even then....so we let it go last time with a warning not to do so, and gave u a warning that if u get caught u get perma banned...
u got caught...
not lets review the rules of implication in math ?... "=>"

as i understand, u do that on empty servers and when someone joins u act dumb and play normally...
luckily brett is similar to me in a way that he has no life and watching demos of empty servers, like i do :P
and he saw that shit...
i dont have a say in this, this is up to clan now since maynard banned u .
i just came here to confirm that i did warn you before, and i honestly have no grudge for u or any of that shit. gd luck.

Pit_Viper1
06-24-2012, 01:38 AM
Ah.. Well then. This completely voids my previous post.

Sorry Treehoe. I like you man, but if you are willing to play the game you had better be willing to pay the price.

Treehoe
06-24-2012, 01:39 AM
i didnt explain anything, i jokingly asked you what the admins views were on "letting someone kill you" and yes for that map i wasnt using my ult as a vagabond. that doesnt mean i was letting someone kill me. In all honesty Why would i boost people i dont know at my own expense? I have done no ammount of xp farming beside the few plant exchanges with bigboss. I Would view this as a first offence and would even accept the punishment of a week or month ban. Ive been respectful, to every admin and in regards to rules, have broke non say this xp exploit accused on Dust. Ive been playing the server just like anyone else and no one have ever had a problem with me. I even thought of myself as one of the more manner players there. But i guess if its staying a perma ban i wont argue with you guys. Thanks for letting me play the server for the time i had, was fun.

CYBER
06-24-2012, 01:43 AM
I gonna have to chime in here because I'm not sure how to look at this perma. I myself have never seen Treehoe manipulating the rank system, but I agree that something has to be done since he is a regular on the server and knows the rules. A perma seems a bit harsh for the first offense with evidence, perhaps a 48 hour ban and resetting his levels would be a little more fitting, with the understanding that if he is caught again he will need to find a new server to play on.

Anyway. That is my view on this. I know that my opinion has no sway over the unban request or anything for that matter, but I have been a guest of this community for a while now and this seems a bit harsh.

might be double posting, unless someone wrote in the last 5 minutes, but
here's the thing, level farming IS a perma offence.
if we start becoming lenient ,, ppl will start doing it and playing dumb when they get caught...
which is why i always record and download demos of every warning that is severe.

as for treehoe... granted a perma might seem a long time, but it is up to clan now, he was warned before, whether he remembers or not. thats his problem.

so IF the clan deems to not perma ban him , which i doubt, but give him a month or so ban and keep and eye on him, i wouldnt be against that either, bcos i dnt give a fuck about whether he stays or not. its up to maynard to punish on these rules broken.
a severe punishment MUST be given.. how severe depends on clan.
i think by the end of a month he would have learned never to do it again knowing that if he showed any sign of "illegal" activity, he;s be perma banned on the spot, without the ability to request unban?

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i didnt explain anything, i jokingly asked you what the admins views were on "letting someone kill you" and yes for that map i wasnt using my ult as a vagabond. that doesnt mean i was letting someone kill me. In all honesty Why would i boost people i dont know at my own expense? I have done no ammount of xp farming beside the few plant exchanges with bigboss. I Would view this as a first offence and would even accept the punishment of a week or month ban. Ive been respectful, to every admin and in regards to rules, have broke non say this xp exploit accused on Dust. Ive been playing the server just like anyone else and no one have ever had a problem with me. I even thought of myself as one of the more manner players there. But i guess if its staying a perma ban i wont argue with you guys. Thanks for letting me play the server for the time i had, was fun.
again, a perma is up to clan. i personally would have banned u for a month ban first to be honest instead of brett's 1 day ban, and trust me, thats VERY minimal to what i usually ban ppl for ... and then you would be perma banned if clan deemed fit.
simply because i actually enjoy ur hacking ass in game, but you would still be
but other than that, feelings aside, u fucked up.
i wish u luck, but u just confirmed what i mentionned above , that u were playing "weak" and becoming an easier target, hence why i asked maynard about it because there was nthn mentionned before about someone WANTING to get killed in game ...
and ur answer was provided above to such behaviour, then u went on to level farming a bomb...

i;d still slap him a month ban
just to give me the pleasure of banning u myself when i prove ur toggling aim-assisting ass. and for shits and giggles
true story ^
but as for ur current ban made by clan, you're most likely not go out that easy.
perma is the standard punishment, the punishment your actions deserve. if clan decide to go easy on u (i mean REALLY easy) then you;d get at least a month ban, but i wouldnt hold my breath yet...

edit: nway , i said what i was asked to confirm. im going back i ngame, im not responding directly, maybe later. u guys have my steam if u need me.

Treehoe
06-24-2012, 01:49 AM
But how does playing a Race without using its ultimate cause for xp boosting? that would be the same as me not teleporting on human, or not going invis as a rap. That in no was would indicate that im giving out Xp to other players, just trying to use the race minus a skill. Even in that game my skillpoints were respent to max all but my ult. So claiming i was "an easier target" maybe be true, but they no way indicates i was purposely setting myself up to fail. I cant see how that counts as a warning when i had nothing to gain from it. Im not asking to Undo the ban at this point. I jsut want people to realize this is my actual first offence. Ive seen no rule on having to use all skills a race provides. Ive even run "No Race" on the server from time to time.


and, Sorry Cyber, i went back and reread what you posted, could i please see what you read this from? cause if i were to find the demo, you would see what it wasnt only 1 person on the enemy team killing me, so the statement that i was letting "a Friend" kill me becomes invalid. not to mention that i was still playing that game, not using my ult, but still playing the game.

Assassin
06-24-2012, 02:02 AM
As to your 90% of the people like me...no. You and bigboss blast on the mic and spam most of the time when an admin isn't on. Even when they are on your ADD having ass just talks at about 2/3 your normal. Like they said clan will decide until then just wait.

Treehoe
06-24-2012, 02:03 AM
Well Assassin, you can be bad manner all you want to, same as server side. you are actually one of the few i dont get along with, wont argue that.

Dj panda
06-24-2012, 02:16 AM
EXP Farming is one of my Mortal Pet peeves, I get Seriously Pist at anyone who does this and they deserve nothing less than a permanent ban, Treehoe your a fun person to play with, but that does not excuse you from the rules either. I had faith in you that you were one of the few good peps that wouldnt be stupid and do this, and your guilty as charged. Exchanging kills like that is EXP farming, Killing yourself is fine for spending tomes since ive had runs like that before but the killing exchanging is not fine -.- was nice knowing you

Treehoe
06-24-2012, 02:20 AM
i have never exchanged kills with someone. the only thing we did were the 2 or 3 bomb plants.

maynard
06-24-2012, 02:32 AM
I'm on the fence here... cause this is what I see...


regardless if you were or were not rank manipulating before when you were on vega is irrelevant... as you were still educated by an upper level admin that it's not allowed... you knew damn well that what you were doing was wrong... there is no argument there... you arranged for you, and another person 2 manipulate the server.

and truth be told, the fact you come in here acting like it was a minimal thing cause it was only "2-3" bomb plants really pisses me off, cause the only reason it was only "2-3" was cause you were caught red handed. if brett did not join the server, you would have continued doing it just the same.

I'm gonna give this some thought, and make a decision tomorrow or later tonight regarding your fate... but at this time, it looks very bad for you.

your downplaying of the situation has done you zero favors. the fact you instigated this has done you zero favors... the fact you were warned before about we don't put up with rank manipulation yet now and or possibly still do it... has done you zero favors.

Treehoe
06-24-2012, 03:09 AM
im not saying it wasnt a big deal, i only said how many times it was done, and brett didnt even join the server to stop us. Brett joined 5 or 6 maps later and issued both bans.

and i never said it was minimal either, thats why i stated in my posts ( i am admitting to breaking the rules) there is no degree as to the severity i asked for in punishment. i just stated clearly that i broke one of the server rules. Ive never Disrepected anyone in IBIS as far as admins/owners and as far as i know most players. (excluding those who take the extra step to post here cause thier happy im banned. >.<) so ill restate again, " Yes, Cyber did tell me it was illegal to manipulate XP a few months ago. I dont believe the text he accused me saying is entirely true, but the event still happened and as far as his warning, it was heard. And yes i mentioned that it was 2 or 3 bomb plants. Im not calling it Minor, i wanted to bring an exact statement of what i was being acused for. So, Therefore, Yes I did Plant/defuse to manipulate XP for a total of 3 bombs (as i watched the demo) but no i have NEVER traded kills with another player, only asked of what the severity of the acts punishment would be to Cyber.

And from what someone stated earlier, No i have never done any form of xp boosting before. i have a total of about 700k xp on the server which took close to 250 hours to achieve. Depending on the player in question, i would say thats pretty standard from someone who plays the server.

maynard
06-24-2012, 03:51 AM
my bad, I meant 2 say the only reason you stopped manipulating the server was cause someone joined (not brett).. which is prob why boss said "oh.. guess we have to play serious now that someone else joined' Or something rather similar along those lines.

you had full intentions of milking the server for xp and money as long as you could... people joining fucked it up for you.

you were also previously warned via an upper level admin that people doing that will not be tolerated... so I really don't get why you honestly think you should be unbanned.

and once again... your prior shit with cyber I could careless other than the fact you were strait up informed that exploiting the leveling system will not be tolerated... meaning you have zero excuses that work... yet you still try and arrange in steam chat late night "lets exploit" runs.

Treehoe
06-24-2012, 03:54 AM
alright then, not gonna argue anymore. Im trying to reason with you in any way possible. Ive admited to breaking the rule, i even said anything other than perma ban would be livable with. But if your so set on seeing a player off one of the servers then fine. Was a great server, loved the people. Not every person that breaks a rule is a bad person tho. Thanks for doing what you can.

maynard
06-24-2012, 04:03 AM
you have 252 hours on the server, you're well aware of the rules, and have even been in the past informed that we don't fuck around when it comes 2 people manipulating the rank system.... yet you're instigating it late at night when you think you can get away with it. that shows me you're nothing more than a piece of shit cheater.

this would be very diff if you hadn't been previously warned by an upper level admin that what you're doing is BEYOND wrong... but you had been lol... there is no excuse you can make that will validate your actions.... like I said... I wont make a final decision tonight as I'm having some drinks and I don't like making final decisions on things during that time... but I wouldn't hold your breath.... as ive been trying and cant think of a single reason 2 honestly unban you.

I also beyond highly doubt this is the first time you did this shit.... I think this is the first real time you've been caught, nothing more. and the way you downplayed what you did, shows me you're beyond not a trust worthy person cause the simple fact is, you only did it 3 rounds cause other peoples joined the server lol... that's it. your goal was 2 cheat and exploit, and it got interrupted.

Treehoe
06-24-2012, 04:16 AM
well it is the first time ive done it, and i cant see why you wouldnt think so, just because the server was empty and we got the idea once doesnt mean we do it all the time. but of course since im a piece of shit cheater you dotn care what my opinion is. maybe you should realize your talking to another person and yes i did break the rule once. perma off first offense if harsh, even other admins think so. but at this point i just think you're being rude rather than letting me be honest and admitting to what i did.

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besides, i dotn see whats wrong with a times banned anyways, at the most you would "catch me again cause i do it so much" and jsut perma ban me. But of course no one ever gets caught the first time doing something. =/ why is there zero reasoning in this forum. The fact i can be accused of multiple accounts of xp farming when yet "yes ive been warned before and caught this time." but theres not even a small instance of me even hinting that i came even close to anything that looks remotely like xp farming other than this demo. so ill state again, even tho the person in question gets no say, Yes, i was caught farming xp on the server, No i have done nothing remotely close to this at any time on the server which is why i have zero bans on my account other than a 10m ban that was given without cause under a different name.

maynard
06-24-2012, 04:39 AM
well it is the first time ive done it, and i cant see why you wouldnt think so, just because the server was empty and we got the idea once doesnt mean we do it all the time. but of course since im a piece of shit cheater you dotn care what my opinion is. maybe you should realize your talking to another person and yes i did break the rule once. perma off first offense if harsh, even other admins think so. but at this point i just think you're being rude rather than letting me be honest and admitting to what i did.

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besides, i dotn see whats wrong with a times banned anyways, at the most you would "catch me again cause i do it so much" and jsut perma ban me. But of course no one ever gets caught the first time doing something. =/ why is there zero reasoning in this forum. The fact i can be accused of multiple accounts of xp farming when yet "yes ive been warned before and caught this time." but theres not even a small instance of me even hinting that i came even close to anything that looks remotely like xp farming other than this demo. so ill state again, even tho the person in question gets no say, Yes, i was caught farming xp on the server, No i have done nothing remotely close to this at any time on the server which is why i have zero bans on my account other than a 10m ban that was given without cause under a different name.




Lol... are you serious?

you can't see why I would think so? are you serious? or incredibly slow? ok... here's it real simple for you... a ULA said " DO NOT DO RANK MANIP! WE DON'T FUCK AROUND WHEN IT COMES 2 IT!" you later go on late at night, when you think no one will join the server, appraoch someone in steam chat, and arrange for you guys 2 manipulate the server for money, xp etc... how the fuck can you not see my point of view? are you serious lol?

you were suspected in the past of rank manipulating... I'm not going 2 say for sure you did, or didn't... but the end result was the same, you were explained via an upper level admin that if you do it, it will result in you getting banned.... and what did you do? you still down the road, go out of your way 2 do it lol... so that's why I don't believe a damn thing you say... cause even after a warning (which is more than most people get) you still go out of your way 2 break the rules... and it's not like you were mic spamming... or tking.. you were breaking the biggest rule in WCS which is not exploiting the level system.

this is a second offense 2 me, cause regardless of if you did or did not do it before, you were warned and had the rules very clearly stated 2 you by a ULA... so once again... there is no excuse which merits your behavior.

Ive been doing this a LONG time, and IBIS is hardly my first rodeo lol... I can smell bullshit a mile away and you stink of it. you didn't admit to what you did, you downplayed it, and made it seem as non offensive and intrusive as possible in the attempt 2 get off a perma ban and onto a temp ban... you knew regardless of what happens, you're going 2 be banned... your goal has simply been 2 have it a temp ban instead of a perma.

Like I said... Ive literally been trying 2 think of a reason 2 unban you... but I cant find one... there's no excuse that works for you as you had already been previously very well explained 2 via a ULA that rank manip wont be tolerated... and the only reason you were told this at the time is cause you were suspected of doing it then also.


the demo even clearly shows that even when people join the server, you guys now and then try and let the other person have an advantage, or plant... which is still rank manip... shit, you or boss even says, "oh shit why did you kill me, I was gonna let you plant that round"

I don't think you understand how serious rank manipulation is taken on the WCS server... it's about 100 feet higher on the list than any other offense you can do other than hacking our servers.

2 sit here and claim "you have no say" is a joke.. if you had no say, I would have just closed this and said, no, you're done, deal with it... but ive literally exhausted myself all evening trying 2 think of a reason 2 unban you... but given you have a warning already from a ULA about what you're banned for now... I just can't think of a logistical reason 2 unban you.


as for your "you can catch me again" crap... I don't want 2... I have you here and now, after a serious warning from a ULA that we wont put up with that shit.... so why would I want 2 unban you, and spend my time reviewing demo's everyday when you're on early in the morning 2 see if you're still being a cheating asshole?

Treehoe
06-24-2012, 04:53 AM
How disrespectful can you be? i can understand that i broke a rule but you swear towards me more than reason. Honestly, this is my last post cause you sound Steamed for whatever reason. You have no idea who i am and to treat someone like that based on one offense is uncalled for. Either way this is my last statement, take it into concideration.


Hello, My IGN is Treehoe, today i was caught XP Manipulating on the WCS server of the IBIS clan. I was warned of "suiciding" to boost other players XP at my own expense by ULA a few months ago. The Manipulation i did today was arming and defusing the bomb with another player that is a regular on the server. This was my first documented offense if you will. I have never been banned before and ive never served any Admin or most players and grievance on the WCS server. To be perma Banned based of one account with ZERO evidence of prior farming seems rediculous. Yes i farmed the server for xp ONCE, but yet when i try to explain that ive only ever done it once i get called a Piece of shit or an Asshole, Disregarding that ive never given someone a reason to believe im a liar. Its my hope that this sums up what i should be being acused for, i just wanted you to realize your asking for a perma ban based off one account without any evidence of another exploit.

CYBER
06-24-2012, 05:00 AM
even other admins think so

i just want to clarify on that.
when i said "i would give a month ban for you" i meant facing me initially ME, not clan.
please dont justify this as me saying that you should be unbanned or only temp banned now. on the contrary.
then i also said i wouldnt mind if u got a month ban if ppl decided to give u chance. u dnt deserve another chance, but if they did give u a chance , i wouldnt mind, bcos its not up to me. and bcos i just dnt care since u;re getting punished anyway. All i had to do was to just confirm what i said last time that i warned u , and thats it.

by my personal standards and the fact that im not clan, i would have given u a month ban, then handed over this shit to maynard to decide your ultimate fate. thats what i meant by "i would have given u a month", as an admin, as a first step of ur punishment but wtvr time i would have given u , u would have always ALWAYS be facing clan's decision when it comes to rank manipulation for a perma. do u see the difference now? no matter what time any admin would have given u , such as brett giving u 1 day, u;d be facing perma... i would have given u a month THEN be facing perma. sorry for fail wording earlier.
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so no matter what, u'd still be in this situation, facing maynard's decision.

so viper retracted what he said about a temp ban, after he learned that u have been warned before.
so there rly isnt anymore "other admins think its too harsh"

my decision of how long u should be banned has zero meaning in this, if i saw u first, i would have banned u for a month and let inform maynard of it, but the fact that maynard got ahold first and perma banned u , i see no reason why u should be unbanned. (personal feelings to a player aside. im talkking about the ibis rule book only)

so forgive me for being unclear earlier, lets face it , my writing skills arent at their best at night... or during the day or any time really, but 1 tihng for sure is
u;re in trouble. by ibis rules, you DESERVE a perma ban, not a month, a PERMA.
now if the clan decided to give u a severe warning on the count that what u did was pure dumb, its their call, but dont justify it that u deserve less than a perma
bcos u would be wrong.

Rank manipulation or farming in wcs and zmod and even gungame to exchange levels and wins is a perma ban offence, specially since u were informed of that earlier.

i wish u gd luck, but u're in deep shit . specially now that u are actually going head on against a clan member trying to excuse urself... no hard feelings from my part , but ibis was not built for the kind hearted... ibis is a dictatorship built on a set of rules. u fuck up, u;re done.

Treehoe
06-24-2012, 05:14 AM
yeah but you see, the fucked up part is, the only difference in my case, and the other players case, is the fact that Cyber warned me before, which you just said yourself, you would have given me a month ban for doing any xp boosts, which yet again states i never did it even in the game we were both in, the only thing we did that game was broach the subject cause i was curious as to the punishment for xp boosting and yet you mistook me for intent. but THAT alone was enough to warrent me to a perma even tho the other player in question is held at a 5 day ban with no questions asked. So i still am lost as to how this can be justified with a perma ban if the only variable in the 2 cases is a conversation me and you had Cyber, there is no eveidence in that game that supports that i was xp boosting. I asked you in a sarcastic manner ( which appologies if it led to you thinking i intended to do anything) what the punishment was for letting another player kill me. You obviously did mistake me for actually doing the act right there and gave me a faulty warning. regardless if thats the reason im move from a 5 day to permanent i feel as though im being screwed over. Im honestly not here to argue, Cyber I respect you, Maynard i respect you too, even tho you jump straight to the conclusion that i have done this multiple times and insinuate that im a bad person. Theres not much more i can really say so i will formally appoligize to both of you for wasting your time. its not the ban that offends me, its the manner its being decided upon. Yes i broke a rule you guys hold in high regards, and yes i knew it was wrong at the time of commiting the act. But like any other person i make mistakes. Given another chance i wouldnt even dare think to do it again. so yet again, sorry if i wasted your time, but from the bottom of my heart i honestly feel a perma is asking too much. and i say this with as little Bias as possible.

maynard
06-24-2012, 05:21 AM
It's hilarious you're playing the victim... You're told "do not XP boost or manip the server!!!!!" so what do you do? you go and do it anyway LOL!!!! and you claim you're being screwed over? no the only people who get screwed over are those who actually work for their levels and rank, and don't try and cheat.....

if you're getting screwed over, it's cause you screwed yourself over, you literally have no one 2 blame for your situation but yourself.

maynard
06-24-2012, 05:43 AM
perma ban removed, 1 month temp ban started the second this post is made.

let me be incredibly clear 2 you... if you so much as fuck around the slightest bit from here on out regarding rank manip, you're done.

I will be viewing and following your game play whenever you're on during low populated hours.. and I don't need 2 be on the server to see what's happening in it. I suggest you learn from this, and don't fuck up again.

Final warning issued. 1 month ban given.