WCS Previous Scrim Comments.

[Spasm]

"I'm sorry cyber, we traded you to HellsGamers for future considerations"

I'm sorry what but I am going to be taking my talents to SOUTH BEACH

[::Paper::]

I did spoke up in the thread when teams first came out. I also did spoke out in dust2 when Paper came in. No one listened. 5v4 would've been unfair, but with teams already skewed, that was the end of it. Finally, I tried until it was possible when most of people have given up I.E. mid dust. And to be completely fair, I can't really blame people as teams were not balanced... To be mild.



Possible to rig teams. Once people have signed up, then we should have captains discreetly select their co-captains and their teams. So no one would feel left out or bad. Fair and without hard feelings.

Sweet I unbalanced the teams i feel good! but in all honesty I would have played anyway if we played it like last time this scrim seemed very last minute I voted for the last 2 and this team lucky i was asked kudos to you cyber btw :)
I also support making a league with teams

[CYBER]

Sweet I unbalanced the teams i feel good! but in all honesty I would have played anyway if we played it like last time this scrim seemed very last minute I voted for the last 2 and this team lucky i was asked kudos to you cyber btw :)I also support making a league with teamsit was between u and and immune... And no offence but immune is a lottt better. So it had to be u when maynard asked me if i have problems u joining

[What]

it was between u and and immune... And no offence but immune is a lottt better. So it had to be u when maynard asked me if i have problems u joining

Well duh immune is better, and honestly paper ain't a big deal. The thing was though, you had an advantage going in, and then replacing chef with a better player further increased that advantage. I still think we could have won if we tried harder more consistently so I don't think it was a huuuge deal, but what we should have done is given us paper in exchange for someone else.

[Masskid]

I still think we could have won if we tried harder more consistently
And someone wasnt in our ear, killing out moral.... yes tom im looking at you -_-

[What]

What might be fun, and I'm just throwing this out there, if for the scrims, everyone has max money, so it is more of a skill/strategy thing than the team that gets the quick money advantage from a first round or two win. Since money is essential in WCS, the team without it can get destroyed from lack of cash alone.

[Rosie]

Correct class change offsets cash advantage. Every kid who runs a race should not get a damn trophy.

[CYBER]

What might be fun, and I'm just throwing this out there, if for the scrims, everyone has max money, so it is more of a skill/strategy thing than the team that gets the quick money advantage from a first round or two win. Since money is essential in WCS, the team without it can get destroyed from lack of cash alone.

hell no.
If u lost a few rouds at start u get item discount. If u constantly give ppl 16k per round, then the loosing team (which is sometimes a temporary loss due to strategy editing) will have an inherit advantage with unlimite money and cheaper items.

This defies the logic of scrimming btw: controlling and strategizing both ur actions AND ur spendings. If u're buffing a loosing team they might overpower the punished winning team. The latter team might not recover from such reversal due to the fact that the goal is 10 wins.

[What]

In a scrim with a 10 round cap, the cheaper items never really become a factor, and of course that wouldn't be included with added money. And no, correct race choices will not alleviate the cash disadvantage with so few people playing, the races which can counteract, or lessen the disadvantage of cash, are often not going to help as these races tend to be nullified themselves when the opposing team can afford laces and other items. In such a small scale venture, and with such skilled players, race whoring is not the answer since its the matter of the course.

Also just a suggestion, knew there would be blowback, but so far nothing too convincing.

[CYBER]

In a scrim with a 10 round cap, the cheaper items never really become a factor, and of course that wouldn't be included with added money. And no, correct race choices will not alleviate the cash disadvantage with so few people playing, the races which can counteract, or lessen the disadvantage of cash, are often not going to help as these races tend to be nullified themselves when the opposing team can afford laces and other items. In such a small scale venture, and with such skilled players, race whoring is not the answer since its the matter of the course.Also just a suggestion, knew there would be blowback, but so far nothing too convincing.if you wanted your blowback, take it to your mom

[maynard]

Scrim thread open.

accepting applications.

[RevMaynard]

Count me in for this massive tourney! all my info hasnt changed. same as before :wtg: this should be a great time. how are teams being set up?

[maynard]

will prob just do the dodgeball thing this time.

[What]

Player Name: What
Player Status: Regular
Link to Steam profile: STEAM_0:1:1237101
Link to WCS profile: http://www.ibisgaming.com/wcs_stats/player.php?id=33878

[Spasm]

Im working so :(

[::Paper::]

ill be watching the hangover then movie hopping probley to fast and furious

[StarsMine]

sigh the timing of these.
Last one was my move out/in day.
This one is IDK where my computer is going to be. Ill see what I can do to join this one though.

[CYBER]

Im in. Will update my shit later bcos im on phone. Hopefully that it's after 8pm est on fridays or satueday night, bcos i'd be cutting it close with work, but we'll try.

edited in my info:

Player Name: Cyber | ibis.a
Player Status: admin
Link to Steam profile: STEAM_0:1:29447450
Link to WCS profile: http://www.ibisgaming.com/wcs_stats/player.php?id=221

[brett friggin favre]

Redacted

[Erdenay]

Not sure yet, so I won't add myself just now, but it's very likely I'll be available.

[Passarelli]

I need to troll the forums more >.> I missed the signup and I think I may even have that friday off from work. well, I'll check today and get back to you.

EDIT: never mind, just saw the attachment and lo, the teams are full XD well, let me know if you need an alternate. I'll probably be online if I'm not working.

[maynard]

I need to troll the forums more >.> I missed the signup and I think I may even have that friday off from work. well, I'll check today and get back to you.

EDIT: never mind, just saw the attachment and lo, the teams are full XD well, let me know if you need an alternate. I'll probably be online if I'm not working.

wait.... what?

[Wolfenstinger]

Teams aren't full - the attachment is just an example of how the teams would end up looking. Any sign ups = after that post where maynard says Signups are Open basically

Simply put - just put info and shit in thread if your available and interested for next week. Simple as that. Speaking of next week: might be available; will come back Monday once I know for sure.

[What]

I need to troll the forums more >.> I missed the signup and I think I may even have that friday off from work. well, I'll check today and get back to you.

EDIT: never mind, just saw the attachment and lo, the teams are full XD well, let me know if you need an alternate. I'll probably be online if I'm not working.

I have lost all faith in his reasoning abilities.

[i2o4]

I missed the April scrim due to work, but I'm available for this one so count me in!

Player Name: i2o4
Player Status: Regular
Link to Steam profile: www.steamcommunity.com/id/alusiv
Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:5443946
Link to WCS profile: www.ibisgaming.com/wcs_stats/player.php?id=54663

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I need to troll the forums more >.> I missed the signup and I think I may even have that friday off from work. well, I'll check today and get back to you.

EDIT: never mind, just saw the attachment and lo, the teams are full XD well, let me know if you need an alternate. I'll probably be online if I'm not working.

The OP is definitely confusing.

Sequential copy/paste from the original post, which was created on March 22:
"Projected sign up date for everyone: May 15'th"
"Projected scrim date: May 24'th"
"History: APRIL Resv-TEAM TWO Adm-TEAM TWO"
"WCS JUL SCRIM ROSTER"

It'd certainly be less confusing if there were separate threads (with the month/date in the title) for each scrim.

[brett friggin favre]

just learned i'll be in a car on the way to virginia on friday night. gotta withdraw...sorry fellas :/

[CYBER]

spasm, what do u do anyway? workwise?
i'll do ur job, u take my place in game ?:P
i2o4 joined ... oh fuck me sideways.

[What]

Hey Cyber, I got a job for you.... *zip*

[CYBER]

Hey Cyber, I got a job for you.... *zip*


Did you just call Spasm an Asian child-prostitute girl???

[Spasm]

spasm, what do u do anyway? workwise?
i'll do ur job, u take my place in game ?:P
i2o4 joined ... oh fuck me sideways.
Electrical / Electronics Tech at a plant, swing shifts.

[Wolfenstinger]

Player Name: Wolfenstinger
Player Status: Regular
Link to Steam profile: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Wolfenstinger/
Link to WCS profile: http://www.ibisgaming.com/wcs_stats/player.php?id=5516


By looks of it, I'm open for that friday. Lets do this.

[Passarelli]

Yay, I have Friday off so I can be in attendance!

Player Name: Passarelli
Player Status: Regular
Link to Steam profile: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Passarelli
Link to WCS profile: http://www.ibisgaming.com/wcs_stats/player.php?id=41982

EDIT: So my computer decided to shit itself today. New mobo is on its way, should be here in two days. As long as that is the only thing wrong with it, I should be good to go. Shit, I almost forgot to buy thermal paste >.> Back to newegg I go.

[Erdenay]

Player Name: Tom Erdenay
Player Status: Regular
Link to Steam profile: http://steamcommunity.com/id/TomErdenay
Link to WCS profile: http://www.ibisgaming.com/wcs_stats/player.php?id=34145

[Wolfenstinger]

Outta curiousity, what are the maps or not determined yet?

[maynard]

Outta curiousity, what are the maps or not determined yet?

read the first post....

[Wolfenstinger]

Excuse me as I go greet the ground in WCS... :banghead:

[Masskid]

Whateves, i guess ill play >.>

Player Name: Masskid
Player Status: Regular
Link to Steam profile: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Masskid
Link to WCS profile: http://www.ibisgaming.com/wcs_stats/player.php?id=534

[What]

so when is the draft?

[Passarelli]

Q.Q I need to withdraw. My GFs friend who spilt coffee on my computer about 8 months ago finally killed it (rust on the MoBo, and some corrosion on the RAM connections [which cleaned off decently well]. Anyway, I replaced the MoBo, and I'm still not getting any beep codes. I'll be testing my PSU tomorrow, and if it isn't that, it'd be the CPU. I'm a bit strapped for cash, and I doubt the local place has the parts I need (albeit they are fairly old components) for any less then twice the price on newegg. We shall see however. I'd say most likely a 5-10% chance of actually having a working computer before monday.

Unless any of you are close to cumberland, MD and have an extra compy with a decent framerate I can use. I'd play on this lappy, but 15-20 FPS will not really cut it >.>

[What]

Q.Q I need to withdraw. My GFs friend who spilt coffee on my computer about 8 months ago finally killed it (rust on the MoBo, and some corrosion on the RAM connections [which cleaned off decently well]. Anyway, I replaced the MoBo, and I'm still not getting any beep codes. I'll be testing my PSU tomorrow, and if it isn't that, it'd be the CPU. I'm a bit strapped for cash, and I doubt the local place has the parts I need (albeit they are fairly old components) for any less then twice the price on newegg. We shall see however. I'd say most likely a 5-10% chance of actually having a working computer before monday.

Unless any of you are close to cumberland, MD and have an extra compy with a decent framerate I can use. I'd play on this lappy, but 15-20 FPS will not really cut it >.>

Well, those three ways can get messy.

[Passarelli]

Nah, she hadn't visited in a long time and she had come over to have a few drinks. Only when she got there, she was strung out (her bf, who was with her, had apparently gotten her on coke) and was already smashed. She was falling over drunk and she and her bf started fighting about 3 minutes after getting there. She had put her coffee absent mindedly on my desk (I was out making drinks) and she fuckin tripped over her own two feet, toppled into my desk, and her coffee fell on my computer. Needless to say, I gave them the boot (they should be glad I didn't toss them out a window). I cleaned my computer the best I could, and miraculously my computer booted up after two days. Sadly, when it died and I opened it up, the MoBo had some pretty bad rust on it, and I literally had to pry the RAM out with a flathead screwdriver. The CPU looked okay, and the PSU seemed to power everything (I don't own a voltmeter or a PSU tester sadly), but no beep codes FTL. Got the new mobo today, switched it out, and no dice, beep codes still failed. I opened up the PSU and cleaned the dust out, I don't see scorch marks or anything, and nothing smells funny, but who knows. I guess I'll find out tomorrow >.> Maybe it is the PSU and I can get a new one for kinda cheap maybe.

[What]

so? who are the captains?

[Erdenay]

so? who are the captains?

I believe it's Cyber v Brett (unless maynard changes his mind). IMHO, tho, you v Cyber would be a bit more even captain choice.

[What]

Cyber and Brett would be an awful choice, there is too much of a disparity between the skill levels, which makes it unbalanced from the start, especially if Brett gets the first pick, then essentially a total rape fest.
So before the scrim begins, Yes we are saying it is unbalanced.

[Wolfenstinger]

Brett isn't gonna make it to this one I thought.

[maynard]

cyber and what will pick the teams. ill do a coin toss 2 see who goes first. we can do this all in game before we start.

[i2o4]

Just to confirm, today's scrim starts at 8pm and is just two five-person teams playing 2 maps, right? And have the maps been chosen yet, or will they be announced later?

[Wolfenstinger]

DETAILS
Maps: cs_militia_nolag - de_deathcookin - de_vegas_css
Round Length: Full rounds
Spectate: Team Only
Object: Planting/Defusing the bomb or kill all enemies

Those are our maps apparently, Vegas being the tie breaker.

[i2o4]

Oh. I thought that was for a previous scrim. I still can't make any sense of the OP.

Right above that part it says the scrim will be 8 teams of 5 players each, and then right after that it says matches will be held on "6.AUG.2012 at 6 PM, 8 PM, and 10 PM"...

[CYBER]

Oh. I thought that was for a previous scrim. I still can't make any sense of the OP.Right above that part it says the scrim will be 8 teams of 5 players each, and then right after that it says matches will be held on "6.AUG.2012 at 6 PM, 8 PM, and 10 PM"...back in the day we used to have a lot of applicants. And so the thread had many teams. If u notice the datestamp, u'd see that this thread has been RECYCLED like 4 times so far so that ppl always know to keep this thread on the weekl news list. As of now, it's one 2 teams facing off. Can we have a FULL list of all CONFIRMED players that didnt bail out? I'd like to go through my priorities.

[What]

Looks like less than 8, 7 0r 6 bymy count

[What]

so....... it is past start time whats the plan?

[i2o4]

Tonight's scrim was rather hectic and disorganized from the start, from false starts to half of Team 2 quitting before the end of the first map, but Team 1 managed to strategize well and play cohesively from the very beginning. Regardless of any unfortunate circumstances, Team 1 was better than Team 2 tonight. Congrats, and well played.

Hopefully, the next scrim will be better organized and publicized.

[CYBER]

True that the scrim started off bad . Hell there was a chance of no scrim bco ls half the damn players that signed up didnt commit and some didnt even warn us...

So we had to get random ppl to fill in the blanks... Now there's 1 thing u need to know, we WERE well organized bcos we listen to eachother and learned from mistakes (ours and urs). My team had a SLIGHT advantage due to the fact that i won the coin toss at first and got to pick first while we alternate.

Blade leaving was not smthn he should be proud of. And the fillers (gandalf, pred, hells, etc) were rly random, and it could have gone either way. I think we should always have back ups and advertise more.

But it was fun nonetheless for us, and i'd like to think that this is the best balance we've ever seen. And i really want us to keep picking players dodgeball style.


Sm_lo3 (documentig ) in case i needed to host the scrim myself nxt time. Hey, we did the best we could and had fun regardless.

[What]

I was there on time, 30 minutes later still not going, I can't commit that much time after I move things around to make room for it at 8.

[Wolfenstinger]

Couldn't really say anything to the team due to constant interruption from -not naming anyone in particular now-.
Said fuck it, this isn't a scrim at that point, its just a bloodbath. IDK what your definition of "balanced" was Cyber, cause that's a weird balance.

[brett friggin favre]

Sorry I couldn't make it but I did tell you guys...though the reason for my absence did change.

[Masskid]

Cyber the teams were not balanced, we clearly had the advantage. Come on I went 27 and like 8 while the next highest person had 8 kills, in a balanced scrim they should have easily shut me down

Also how were we organized?? I literally said fuck it I'm doing what ever I wanted

[maynard]

Sorry I wasn't there, nor left word as 2 why. some family RL shit went down which left me running out the door right before the scrim and not getting home till about 8 hours later.

[CYBER]

Cyber the teams were not balanced, we clearly had the advantage. Come on I went 27 and like 8 while the next highest person had 8 kills, in a balanced scrim they should have easily shut me down

Also how were we organized?? I literally said fuck it I'm doing what ever I wanted

that's the thing... you did ur thing at some point, while the others followed tom.
i went in between sticking with tom's plan and keeping an eye on you outside with vaga and we helped eachother at some points, especially covering outside.

Blade, Wolf, i2o4, One and only, Gandalf, (And Anex joined for half the game)

VS
Me, Mass, Tom, hell, pred


Clan didn't pick the teams... me and Blade did. I won the coin toss and managed to get the first pick. blade alternated picks with me.
had he won the coin flip, it would have been way different.

and also? it was mostly because of lack of strong players we know to bond with.
Had brett been there (congrats on the internship btw), he'd have been a good counter for masskid... hell i probably would have picked him first if i had the choice bcos masskid gets fucking bored wayy too easily and goes off plan.


so again,,, i'd much rather have a coin flip and pick the teams dodgeball style than to have a clan member pick them based on stats.
1- since you're the one picking ur team, u're the one responsible to chosing the right ppl that synergize well and play well.... and sometimes synergy > skill (an example? wolf vs masskid .... tom vs anex or i2o4)

2- if we do the clan picking thing, if a player bailed, we'd have the worst time balancing shit live... especially if tactics were discussed before.
whereas when we pick the members at the start, take 5 minutes per map, per side to discuss shit before we sm_lo3 this shit, then we can have any replacement join, and the teams rebalance live...

3- albeit 4 out of 5 of us were organized ( yeah, fuck u mass), i do feel bad for the other team bcos their goddamn leader bailed on them mid game (that was shitty blade), and left them hanging. i also dnt know the degree of planning they did..
no but i definitely had a slight advantage , i cant deny it... but i cant take credit for it because it was the coin flip.... had blade gone first, i'd probably have been stuck with ppl i don't play along nice, and the game would definitely have been different.


FINALLY:
let's get these scrims advertised.. in fact? getting a few subs yesterday that never went part in the scrim might have helped advertising bcos they all never heard of it, and/or were too affraid to join bcos they thought it was a big deal... hopefully word will spread and we can have more ppl signing up from now on.
and we'd be more organized....

[Masskid]

i heard they couldnt plan because they couldnt hear anything.... stupid gandalf

[Wolfenstinger]

Sorry I wasn't there, nor left word as 2 why. some family RL shit went down which left me running out the door right before the scrim and not getting home till about 8 hours later.

Its ok. Now that you've said something, I can fully forgive you because shit happens and it's all Cyber's fault. :lmao:

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Also Cyber - Yea we couldn't do "planning" for shit. Let alone did you need that 5 mins to talk it out rather than walk people through it during the game.

W/e though, i'll wait for next one. I got an experiment I'll be testing.

[What]

W/e though, i'll wait for next one. I got an experiment I'll be testing.

Does this experiment involve alcohol? In fact, suggest next scrim is a drinking game, everytime you get a kill, take a drink, the other team can be mercilessly punished by the use of panorama/BM combos.

[BladeTwinSwords]

I eat anywhere from 8-9. That and I got called in to admin (On different servers)

[Wolfenstinger]

@Blade - Not blaming you for anything, you did your part.

[SHADY V1RU5]

i want in on the next one! ive missed out on the tournaments :/

[Rosie]

Is there a thought of scrims in the future, or was it just a phase?

[CYBER]

Is there a thought of scrims in the future, or was it just a phase?

the wcs community is dying.
server full of tryhards and racewhores.
No teamwork whatsoever, just skill-less top-ranked dick wavers all over, usually stacked on the same team ("coincidence" and "auto assign" of course).
most regulars are gone because of those people.
a couple of niggers seem to troll the server with a certain race and exploited mechanics, I myself have tried to learn the blackness of it. enough said.
almost no veteran admins there anymore.
No new races or hype to bring back people.
Loss of some ula members and workload currently handled by only phil and scribbs bcos paypal screwed me over again.
maynard busy to organize and monitor.
all clanners unable to replace maynard in such event.
Zero not currently available due to him being away in japan for a few months.


I feel like i'm obliged to still tell you that "don't worry, eventually people will want a scrim again"
but let's face it, i highly doubt this happening, and if it DID happen, it wouldn't be as FUN as the first 2 because of the lack of social relations, networking, teamworking, friendship, and organization among the current players roaming wcs at this fucking moment.


^ the sad truth.

[i2o4]

Sorry to hear that man. I miss you guys. Maybe it would help if I bought a new acct and started playing WCS again. I just got back from Korea and brought my new wife with me. :) Haven't played in 8 months. I'm sure I'll be rusty at first but I've just been itching to vaginalion rape some noobs!

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I see Ronnie still hasn't caught up to my 6 mil points and Pass is ranked 2nd now!? As long as Wolf, Masskid, Empty, Pie Q, Tomato, Evo, Zoro, Hell Spawn, Brett, Cyber, Spasm, Tom, Gekke, Malpazm, HyperRNT, Big Blue, Yoshir, Xerenix, and Sanosuke still play, I'm itching to play as well.

[CYBER]

I see Ronnie still hasn't caught up to my 6 mil points and Pass is ranked 2nd now!? As long as Wolf, Masskid, Empty, Pie Q, Tomato, Evo, Zoro, Hell Spawn, Brett, Cyber, Spasm, Tom, Gekke, Malpazm, HyperRNT, Big Blue, Yoshir, Xerenix, and Sanosuke still play, I'm itching to play as well.


lol and that's with the fact that ronnie always stacks T and only plays : human, molecule, vaga, spidey, and jack. i have yet to see him play any other race.
wolf, mass, tom, empty, tomato, hell, brett, spasm, malpaz, hyper, and sano have been a no show for ages.
as for pieQ he got a mic and is more annoying than ever with his 70% hs ratio with with deagle and scout only, dnt remember evo, zoro either, brett left source, yoshir stacks with ronnie with same races, xerenix only plays a couple hours at night and yeah.

i personally havent played in 3 weeks because of a couple people that piss me off due to my inability to prove that they hack, to the point of me deciding to quit instead of abusing them...
only played once for 10 mins yesterday with 1/15 rapscallion score just out of boredom. The second i switched to vagabond against their 3 humans, 1 spidey, vagabond, and 3 jacks, simply to balance my team, the enemies start rage quitting and calling me a race whore after playing 20 mins rapscallion only. and then the server went empty again at 11 pm....the usual.

so yah like i said, those veterans that keep u wanting to come back either no longer play, or became people u simply don't feel like playing with again.

kinda miss fucking around with ya on dolls with eye raes and raps and shit tho lol...

[What]

Sano plays relatively frequently and Tomato pops in once in a while. Its mostly a new crew at night, volt, jesus, pass, mijanul, etc. but its steady.

h8rs gonna h8

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Maybe it would help if I bought a new acct and started playing WCS again.

Also, wouldn't need a new account if you didnt hack on the first one......

[Wolfenstinger]

I'm busy. When I take the time to play things, it ain't long till I go away again. Because I'm busy. IRL.

It's not my fault that the WCS server developed a serious syndrome called a "meta". It's not a bad thing, but people flock to the "now" or they leave because the "now" is full of flailing our keyboards at one another to see who wins.

[Erdenay]

Pretty much what Wolf said. The current "meta" is just not really fun to play anymore, so there's really no reason to come and play. I still play CSS every now and again, but honestly, it just got boring at this point. Granted, should a scrim ever be organized, I most likely would be interested and would still come back to play that.

[Rosie]

the fact that ronnie always stacks T and only plays : human, molecule, vaga, spidey, and jack. i have yet to see him play any other race.

That has been going on for years. All you can do is try to best him. Frequent class changes, and crap. He isn't obligated to play down to his competition. If he is whoring Vaga when someone could be leveling it is the only issue I can see.


i personally havent played in 3 weeks because of a couple people that piss me off due to my inability to prove that they hack, to the point of me deciding to quit instead of abusing them...

I still do not have anything worth running a game on, but I can still run wireframe if you want to PM me the names. I haven"t played in years since my PC cooked.


I'm itchy to get back in. I think I am going to build a rig this year. While I can't play, I can help the community.

[Locust]

I haven't played in forever either. Personally it just stopped being fun for me if there were no people who were actually my friends. Recently I've been playing a new server that's actually gotten my interest. If any of you guys wanna give surfing a try I got a real good server for you to try :wtg:

[Wolfenstinger]

I remember when I made friends on the WCS server... They told me I'm stacking teams when I play vagalion and deserve to get shot at; or lynched with a lace...

:depress: I don't see where I went wrong... :depress:

[What]

I remember when I made friends on the WCS server... They told me I'm stacking teams when I play vagalion and deserve to get shot at; or lynched with a lace...

:depress: I don't see where I went wrong... :depress:

Vagalion attacks are really just highspeed hugs

[maynard]

I remember when I made friends on the WCS server... They told me I'm stacking teams when I play vagalion and deserve to get shot at; or lynched with a lace...

:depress: I don't see where I went wrong... :depress:

you have no friends....:smirk:

[brett friggin favre]

you have no friends....:smirk:

You figured that out pretty quickly...you must speak from experience ;)

[anex]

A scrim wouldn't be organized until some things get fixed in wcs. Once they are, we'll look at doing another scrim but it won't be for awhile.

[Pie Q]

the wcs community is dying.
server full of tryhards and racewhores.


CYBER SPEAKS TRUTH
At least succubus hunter is fun.

[ZERO]

I guess it is good that all the next races that are coming out are going to be team play oriented. Also I am thinking of increasing the ult blocking range for races that have it built in so that they are more powerful than users who just have a lace. I have some more options to change up the meta game and force different race options and ways of playing so that people are encouraged to work as a team more and to deal with race whoring. One idea is an item called adaptive tactics which can buff a user against players that are constantly using the same race for example. I am not sure if it will be an item or a race ability but the idea is that the more you fight against a given race the more resistant to it you become. How exactly this will work as far as damage reduction/firepower values are concerned is unknown but I want to make something that will give incentive for users to change their race within a given map. This will likely require some races to be immune to the effects of this item/ability but the ones that are will be logical choices and this can be considered a buff to those races.

Lastly I do plan to be releasing a high level no ability race that is for users to demonstrate true skill with. This race will not have any abilities or means to use the shopmenu. I may though give it the ability to benefit its team in someway though as to assist any team balance issues when it is used. If this race will have a moving level requirement or not is up in the air but I do want to make it clear that unlocking it is considered more of a reward/perk for completing all the races.

[What]

What we really need to do is mobilize the regulars into forum users better. I find it hilarious that the people who speak to the state of the server are those who either haven't played in months or only a couple times over that span. I see tons of the same people whenever I play, but asides from Pass, Jesus, and to a lesser extent volt, no one comes to the forums. The server gets people, usually later in the day/night, or at least that's when I am usually on. I have never seen a race empty the server, I have seen players do it, but it really doesn't depend on what race they're playing, undead, Nelf, flame pred, even rapscallion. New players get frustrated when they can't kill someone and instead of learning how to counter they leave, but they always come back.

[ZERO]

So what your saying is that we need a government that does not tell them they are entitled to win? Our problems just keep getting bigger...

[Wolfenstinger]

Everyone has a weakness on WCS. EVERYONE.

[kionay]

I see tons of the same people whenever I play, but asides from Pass, Jesus, and to a lesser extent volt, no one comes to the forums.

:(

i know i'm not on the same time you're on, but i try to get on at least every other day between 6 and 9 on week days

:(

[Silence]

Please don't take this offensively Zero, but I think you should really check out the WCS server at Cegamers, because they have a balanced system that actually rewards effort, and a truly functioning team balancing system. The WCS server here would really become so much better if you are able to program a similar team balancing system as that one. And just to reiterate that I only play on the WCS server here, so my only intent is hoping that our WCS server becomes better.

[CYBER]

Please don't take this offensively Zero, but I think you should really check out the WCS server at Cegamers, because they have a balanced system that actually rewards effort, and a truly functioning team balancing system. The WCS server here would really become so much better if you are able to program a similar team balancing system as that one. And just to reiterate that I only play on the WCS server here, so my only intent is hoping that our WCS server becomes better.


i have played on the CEGamers server to basically study the oponents there...
their player base is bad.
their races are all overpowered races with no possible cyclical balance. Many races are inheritely the best races in the server and can ONLY be killed by a person on the same race with a higher skill cap,
i believe they offer to code a race for cash.

most importantly:
their menu system is HORRENDUS ... absolutely fucking horrible! Zero's put a lot of work into the chat AND menu-select based item system in the game, and it really makes it less overwhelming to scroll through menus.

NOW.
the ONLY , and i god i mean ONLY thing that CEGamers has that we don't have better?
The fucking !scramble command to have PLAYERS THEMSELVES vote on scramblind the teams when they aren't having fun, whether you are on the winning side or losing side. This effectively lets almost everyone play the map on both sides instead of the current "T Stackers" we constantly see here.
And after 4 rounds of the same team winning over and over again, it scrambles the players automatically.


Zero, i know u are against forcing players to different sides unwillingly... but man, this needs to at least be a feature that can be voted on like RTV or !scramble command... just because stacking and racewhoring is an absolute problem!


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As for your tactical ability against racewhores, i fucking LOVE IT!
in fact i will start working on a race that embodies that logic, and i know just the theme! "Thank you for your... contributions"

[ZERO]

Ah a ~! based command I like! this is much better than having an actual vote window popup which is a big problem on wcs b/c it disrupts gameplay. I never thought to make it like an rtv command but without a window vote coming up. Just if enough people enter that command it triggers that mode till the end of the map.

I will look into programing something like this as soon as I am back in the USA. :wtg:

[What]

Just have to make sure that the votes required to do a scramble is more than just the people on 1 team, cause that could get abused pretty easy, like maybe 70% or so of the server population, less steamtv

[SCRIBBLE]

Just have to make sure that the votes required to do a scramble is more than just the people on 1 team, cause that could get abused pretty easy, like maybe 70% or so of the server population, less steamtv

i highly doubt the people on the winning team are going to support the vote of the losing team 100% of the time so a 70% population vote, less STV, would not be functional.