Treehoe

[Night]

Admin's INGAME name: Treehoe
You're INGAME name:: Night
Server: WCS
Map: assault
Date & Time: 09/16/12 22:31 EST

How did he/she abuse: I was banned for warding objectives which I stopped doing after the first time i was warned.
The 2nd warning was verbal only at 21:15 tick 85000 in the demo which i didn't hear since i disabled voice due to the players mic spamming about black people.
At 25:30 tick 102000 in the demo i planted the ward which got me the temp ban which wasn't even in the hostie room. There were 2 other paths behind me which anybody could take around the ward.

Proof: See demo and comments above. 6351

http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/2240-WCS-Rules
5. Wards are not allowed to fully block an objective. Warding rooms that contain hostages is not allowed, however, if a shadow hunter is summoned to the objective, the shadow hunter does reserve the right to drop his wards. This rule applies too strider as well.
I did not break this rule after the 1st warning.

[brett friggin favre]

post a demo as evidence. http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/6434-Links-to-Demos

[Night]

added demo and comments

[brett friggin favre]

you were warned, and that ward you placed was indeed stretching into the hostie room. note that wards extend to about twice their displayed radius. you might not know that, but now you do, and because the ward was encroaching on the hostie room, there is no abuse on treehoe's part. the ban was short, has been over for a while now, lesson learned.

[Rage]

''''Hello Rage it appears that you have not posted on our forums in several weeks, why not take a few moments to ask a question, help provide a solution or just engage in a conversation with another member in any one of our forums?'''''

The forums are making me post here.

[maynard]

''''Hello Rage it appears that you have not posted on our forums in several weeks, why not take a few moments to ask a question, help provide a solution or just engage in a conversation with another member in any one of our forums?'''''

The forums are making me post here.

pull your head out of your ass and be active!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

will look into this tomorrow.

[Erdenay]

pull your head out of your ass and be active!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

will look into this tomorrow.

There's nothing to look into - I was there and so were a few other admins. Treehoe did nothing wrong (Brett also reviewed the demo) and it's just the new guy complaining about a very weak punishment due to the fact that he punished when he did not listen to people and continued to abuse the rules.

[Night]

There's nothing to look into - I was there and so were a few other admins. Treehoe did nothing wrong (Brett also reviewed the demo) and it's just the new guy complaining about a very weak punishment due to the fact that he punished when he did not listen to people and continued to abuse the rules.

Except I did listen to the only admin chat message i saw warning me the first time. I did not hear the verbal warnings because i turned voice off like i said in my original post. There was a lot of racist crap being said and people mic spamming which none of the admins did anything about.

And yes the punishment was only 30 minutes, but it's the principle of the matter. This could happen to anybody else and who knows what kind of punishment they'll receive in the future for doing nothing wrong other than trying to obey the admins and rules.

[brett friggin favre]

Except I did listen to the only admin chat message i saw warning me the first time. I did not hear the verbal warnings because i turned voice off like i said in my original post. There was a lot of racist crap being said and people mic spamming which none of the admins did anything about.

And yes the punishment was only 30 minutes, but it's the principle of the matter. This could happen to anybody else and who knows what kind of punishment they'll receive in the future for doing nothing wrong other than trying to obey the admins and rules.

please read my assessment of the evidence presented. you didn't obey the rules, you didn't obey the admins, and you were subsequently punished.

[Night]

please read my assessment of the evidence presented. you didn't obey the rules, you didn't obey the admins, and you were subsequently punished.

Yes brett, I read your assessment and I'm fine with it and respect your decision. I'm just trying to say that I could not hear the subsequent warnings given by the admins due to the fact that my voicechat was disabled from the players mic spamming and the racism going on. Admins could at least kick a player before dishing out any sort temp bans, even very short ones.

[Erdenay]

Except I did listen to the only admin chat message i saw warning me the first time. I did not hear the verbal warnings because i turned voice off like i said in my original post. There was a lot of racist crap being said and people mic spamming which none of the admins did anything about.

And yes the punishment was only 30 minutes, but it's the principle of the matter. This could happen to anybody else and who knows what kind of punishment they'll receive in the future for doing nothing wrong other than trying to obey the admins and rules.


Yes brett, I read your assessment and I'm fine with it and respect your decision. I'm just trying to say that I could not hear the subsequent warnings given by the admins due to the fact that my voicechat was disabled from the players mic spamming and the racism going on. Admins could at least kick a player before dishing out any sort temp bans, even very short ones.

As far as I can recall, there were warning in BOTH chat and verbally, so even if you did turn the voice off (which is inadvisible if you want to avoid misunderstandings such as this), you should have still seen the warning. If you are new to the server, either read the rules and know what you can do that and can't do, listen and obbey the admins OR find out what happens when you don't listen the hard way...

Also, racism is allowed as long as it is not directed at anyone and allof that "racist crap" were clearly jokes. Also, there was no mic spamming involved.

Finally, you were warned. FIRST of all, you have been warned verbally. Secondly, you have been slayed. And then, only then, finally you've been banned for 30 mins - so it's not a matter of principle... As you have no reasons to complain whatsoever.

[Night]

As far as I can recall, there were warning in BOTH chat and verbally, so even if you did turn the voice off (which is inadvisible if you want to avoid misunderstandings such as this), you should have still seen the warning. If you are new to the server, either read the rules and know what you can do that and can't do, listen and obbey the admins OR find out what happens when you don't listen the hard way...

Also, racism is allowed as long as it is not directed at anyone and allof that "racist crap" were clearly jokes. Also, there was no mic spamming involved.

Finally, you were warned. FIRST of all, you have been warned verbally. Secondly, you have been slayed. And then, only then, finally you've been banned for 30 mins - so it's not a matter of principle... As you have no reasons to complain whatsoever.

It is a matter of principle because it pertains to my personal belief I was treated unfairly.
So of course I have reason to complain if I felt I was punished unfairly.

1. I was slayed and then warned afterwards via text which only said don't ward the objectives.
2. I tried to follow the admin and rules after the first warning and didn't realize ward radius was twice that of the visual ward so broke the rules a 2nd time without realizing it. (skill description doesn't mention ward radius)
3. If i had been slayed or kicked the 2nd time i broke the ward rule I wouldn't have continued to do it.

But anyways, I filed the complaint, it was rejected by brett, I've accepted the decision.

[maynard]

No abuse, closed.