Connecticut Elementary Violence

[Nemesis]

I was shocked, and hurt when I heard this. I mean, these are children, just looking forward to the weekend, Christmas, etc.
I don't know if you guys read this article, but this woman is a true hero.

http://www.people.com/people/package...657003,00.html

I doubt many will read it, so I'll summarize it. Victoria Soto, a 1st-grade teacher at the school heard the gun shots, and immediately told her students to hide in the closets, and inside the cabinets. When the shooter came to her class, he asked where the kids were, and she said they were in gym class. He shot her, and moved to the next class. She died right there, and her kids lived.

True hero.

All well and good but what about the guys who were actually in the gym? Short end of the stick on that one.

[Erdenay]

I've stayed out of this thread for the longest time as I didn't have anything to say that I had not said. However, just wanted to quickly point out 2 things:

I) You may want to notice how much this thread has been derailed and just move the discussion to another one if you really want to honour those people?

II) I can't believe I agree with Nemesis on a serious issue, but I pretty much agree with a vast majority of things he wrote. I highly recommend looking into statistics and testimonies in some other countries (most of European countries) where guns are highly restricted and where's barely any violence or shootings (in fact, any incidents like that where you have a lot of loss of lives).

[Assassin]

Or look at the one with the lowest amount of physical violence (sweden or switzerland or w/e it is I'm at work) and they do have less control than the US. It doesn't matter where you are, if people wanna find them they will. It's a societal thing not a will this law work or not work thing.

[ZERO]

I did not list the who on the quotes b/c it should be obvious who said what. But for those who just love the last one I highly suggest you look up who's quote that is...

Lets also remember that this same weekend there was also 22 kids in China that were stabbed outside of their school. Guns or not people do crazy shit, you can either defend yourself from them or hope for the best.

[StarsMine]

I did not list the who on the quotes b/c it should be obvious who said what. But for those who just love the last one I highly suggest you look up who's quote that is...

Lets also remember that this same weekend there was also 22 kids in China that were stabbed outside of their school. Guns or not people do crazy shit, you can either defend yourself from them or hope for the best.

im sorry the last one, The wild west was called the wild west for a reason, Violent crime was rampant back then. There needs to be some form of gun control laws, at least back then when using a gun you had no more then 6 shots w/o reloading. For self defense and hunting there is no need for 30 bullet clips, there is little need for automatic weaponry.
I think almost everyone has a right to a gun, however, there is a middle ground. I really dont care about canadiens getting our weapons nemisis, however there needs to be a longer application process, like there is for getting a passport. It should be more then a simple back ground check.

[HK5150]

In 1929 we had the worst attack on children to date in the US. An aggravated farmer detonated TNT in a school to protest tax hikes upon his farm. 40 children died. Our Constitution is based upon the King James Bible and the Magna Carta. Our 2nd ammendment has everything to do with supporting a person's right to free choice. Can't we just mourn our loss and start to look for a definative way to deal with the issues we face as a world? The pistols used aren't restricted in either Canada or America. Violence is on a person/capita statistical decline in this century. We are moving in the right direction. We just need to focus on the correct issue. If I shoot a person, legally or not, my handgun will never go on trial. I would have decided to pull the trigger and no one or anything else would have. Grieve for the children and make rememberance through helping those in need. Try to make up some ground for those that lost their lives before they could fully act...

[ZERO]

im sorry the last one,

"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!" -Hitler

[brett friggin favre]

psychoanalyzing grips affixed to every firearm.

someone who hasn't lost his marbles can use a gun all he wants. if you've gone psychotic, the gun won't fire.

[Spasm]

II) I can't believe I agree with Nemesis on a serious issue, but I pretty much agree with a vast majority of things he wrote. I highly recommend looking into statistics and testimonies in some other countries (most of European countries) where guns are highly restricted and where's barely any violence or shootings (in fact, any incidents like that where you have a lot of loss of lives).

59 Million people murdered after gun's are restricted in just the 20th century. These are examples of why our founding fathers implemented the 2nd amendment and how pathetic it is of anyone to take it for granted. Armed public are citizens, unarmed public are subjects.

1915-1917 Ottoman Turkey 1-1.5 million murdered 1886-1911 years guns restricted.
1929-1953 Soviet Union 20 million murdered 1929 year guns restricted.
1933-1945 Nazi Germany 13 million murdered 1928-1938 years guns restricted.
1949-1976 China 20 million murdered 1935 year guns restricted.
1960-1981 Guatemala 100,000 murdered 1871-1964 years guns restricted.
1971-1979 Uganda 300,000 murdered 1955-1970 years guns restricted.
1975-1979 Cambodia 1 million murdered 1956 year guns restricted.

"We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." Ronald Reagan

[Assassin]

Seconded Spasm for President. ^