Connecticut Elementary Violence

[HotFuzz]

Condolences to the families and friends, but stricter gun control laws will not solve anything. it will make it worse. guess who doesn't care about the laws? criminals... just saying

its a proven statistic that when guns have been banned or made illegal or to strictly regulated, crimes commited with guns rise. criminals know that law abiding citizens wont have firearms to protect themselves and in turn
commit more armed crimes.

its a cycle.

Anyone wanting to take my firearms or any of my relatives firearms can pry them from my cold dead hands.

sorry got off topic but stupid libs really piss me off using such a travesty as a podium to preach on a their agenda i.e. gun control.

[StarsMine]

proven statistic?
You need to take a stat class.
And it really isnt proven, and the correlation is not all that strong.

[HotFuzz]

http://www.infowars.com/cold-hard-fa...-loss-of-life/

http://www.captainsjournal.com/2012/...ies-and-brits/

Overall, Australia’s violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.

So, if the USA follows Australia’s lead in banning guns, it should expect a 42 percent increase in violent crime, a higher percentage of murders committed with a gun, and three times more rape.

http://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2...struck-down-2/

i could go on for quite a while if ya like... that last link is pretty good too.... well worth a look

[StarsMine]

Im sorry sir, but Correlation is not causation, and really open the link first thing I see
"In 2002 — five years after enacting its gun ban — the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime."

There is so many factors, the biggest one is Societal change, Crime rate went down in the mid to late 90s due to tupac and BIGs death, Gang violence went to large low, and this was also during the assault rifle ban when our crime rate went down.

[Rapedollar$]

ok im not the most informed around about this topic but cant the same thing be said about liberal's counterargument(s) showing other countries with strict gun control and positive results be construed the same way?

at what point do correlation and causation cross over? what makes your arguments valid and hot's invalid? you cite your news sources and discredit ours as Right wing fanatics, but cant the same be said for the sources you use?

[StarsMine]

I am so confused as to what rape is talking about, who and what are you referring to?

what news source are you talking about, the only one I quoted was hots. Also did you just say in your first sentence that while there are countries where crime went up after some gun law went into effect, there are others where crime rate went down? Your wording in that post is just entirely unclear.

Societal changes? -
video has little to do with gun control, just the reduction of violence.

[Nemesis]

The problem is there's such a divide on the issue. So much so that each side totally discredits the other and no one is willing to compromise on their views.

Everyone should be able to agree that this is fucking bullshit and there needs to be something done so shit like this stops mother fucking happening because this is getting cunting ridiculous especially when it involves squishies.

[StarsMine]

The problem is there's such a divide on the issue. So much so that each side totally discredits the other and no one is willing to compromise on their views.

Im trying my best not to do that, I like to think of myself as being a very moderate person in this debate here.
Wtf are squishies?

Personally I dont see any good reason for the people to have automatic guns and obscenely large clips. If there is a time to attack the government, then at that point it should be easy enough to get them. All you need for self defense is a glock with 6 rounds or so in it. Same with hunting, you dont need more then 3 shots, the first two will scare all the animals away.

As for assault rifle ban, I dont see a reason for the ban, an a assault rifle isnt going to do more damage then a sawed off pump shotgun. ... I wording what I think poorly here. So go ahead and collect guns, keep them locked up though.
Background checks.... Well crazy people do a good job hiding crazy, but it would prevent felons from getting the guns. Dont give a shit if canadains get our guns though.

[Nemesis]

Im trying my best not to do that, I like to think of myself as being a very moderate person in this debate here.
Wtf are squishies?

Personally I dont see any good reason for the people to have automatic guns and obscenely large clips. If there is a time to attack the government, then at that point it should be easy enough to get them. All you need for self defense is a glock with 6 rounds or so in it. Same with hunting, you dont need more then 3 shots, the first two will scare all the animals away.

As for assault rifle ban, I dont see a reason for the ban, an a assault rifle isnt going to do more damage then a sawed off pump shotgun. ... I wording what I think poorly here. So go ahead and collect guns, keep them locked up though.
Background checks.... Well crazy people do a good job hiding crazy, but it would prevent felons from getting the guns. Dont give a shit if canadains get our guns though.

Squishies are children. The younger they are the more squish they have.

[XX0wnsXY]

Squishies are children. The younger they are the more squish they have.

I understood the reference and it was good.