So long WCS

[Chef C Green]

Yeah i'm sure you're all expecting this to be some long drawn out bitching session about "team stacking". Well i'll make it a short one instead so as not to completely disappoint you thread trollers .

WCS didn't used to be as bad (or at least i didn't see it being this bad) when I first started a few months back. It was tough leveling for sure, what with human being the only productive class in the beginning to get some real kills. But as time progressed, and more races get unlocked, it was great fun leveling each individually and seeing the highlights of each one. Shadow Hunter with its annoying wards, Spiderman with the fun web-slinging, Magician with its crow clutches (and to think people DIDN'T want crows to use cloak?! too much fun ), even Paranorma with its 2,4,8 consecutive revives with the enemy team camping your corpse. Oh it was great fun, but people eventually stopped enjoying races for these subtle enjoyments. It soon became a game of "I need to win" - which it was from the beginning - but never at the cost of the games enjoyment. We've gotten to that point.

What's worse, when you've tasted overwhelming defeat once or twice, you don't want to go back, which just leads to what is now a problem on the servers. I've tried my best to offer suggestions, attempt to even teams (failing most times cus I just stick with my crowing haha), and try to sway others feelings. For all this trouble, I've seen it get progressively worse and worse, to the point that 5 minutes on the server is enough to make me wanna leave.

I feel sorry that such a capable server has to lose people like me that truly want enjoy the gameplay, but alas, where's the fun now? Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way? Perhaps it's my lack of motivation from playing an appropriate race that keeps me from "fighting back"? Well if enjoying the server means having to constantly play to counter someone else's rampage, instead of fooling around like we used to, then the server's lost its original appeal (imo). I take my leave, in hopes that someday, players will learn it's not only about winning, it's about enjoying the various races we've worked so hard to level.

Sincere Regards,
- Chef

[Assassin]

Damn bro shit can get weak but don't bounce. It's really the leveling of races that gets me. I could play a counter...or I could play something that I need to finish leveling, thus leaving my friends and team at disadvantage. Yes I know I can play other races and hop back and buy tomes..but you just don't level as fast. Idk...I'm almost done leveling too but I don't think it has gotten that bad.

[>>>Shots<<<]

The unbalanced gameplay we have now in wcs is mostly due:
1. Extremely flawed auto-teambalance (not auto assign) system.
2. Very few new races being released
Some obvious solutions:
1. (Easier solution) Release new races so those players who have maxed all races or most races will have new goal in mind while playing wcs. Requiring people who have maxed all races or most races play a weak race when they have the choice to play a stronger race for their team is illogical.
2. (More difficult solution) Alter the auto-teambalance system so that when either ct or t has 2 more wins than the other team, a random person from the winning team (with kill/death ratio greater than 1.0) will be swapped with a random person from losing team (with kill/death ratio less than 1.0).

*PS I'm only offering advice and are in no way intended to insult anyone etc/whatever/incase of flame (norm).*

[ZERO]

Especially given that I am working on a team balance as discussed in the admin section but it will not be in effect until January, it requires reprogramming the wcs engine.

[Chef C Green]

So what happens when your races are all maxed? Will you still enjoy the plethora of races available, or will fighting the opposition to support your team be your goal? Neither is better or worse imo, but I've seen first hand how focusing on either for too long ruins the game. Balance in all aspects is what leaves players with the desire to be better, while giving them the courage to come back for more. You'll still find me in ZMod and GG (and perhaps a surf server if I can find a good host ).

EDIT: See this is why I miss admin, I never know whats going on in the background anymore v.v. Glad to hear bout the Team Balance Zero, and I look forward to hearing how it does come release.

[brett friggin favre]

the fun is in figuring out how to change the balance by raping with different races. for example, i like to rock genocide (really underplayed), undead (also underplayed), and chameleon (fun and confuses the hell out of the other team). I've found out how to best use those races and the items to keep teams from being a problem most of the time. i mean hell a few weeks ago i stated something like 34-1 with undead, don't need a crazy op class to do it.

[WRXJIM]

I agree Chef. I have ZERO desire to level other races, because where is the fun being knifed by a Vaga in your own spawn before you can even finish buying weapons, or being owned by diamonds 12 rounds in a row before you even see the killer 5 seconds into the round...
I'll keep playing my maxed out Human (because Im not very good) so I can at least last more than 5 seconds and have some level of fun against the opposing team of 6-8 L33TS :/ Its always the same people too :/
I dont care what races people play, but when people are deliberately stacking teams so they dont have to face an equally "leveled" (Skilled) player it just kills the fun.
Egos are a funny thing... KDR, 55-2 rounds for the top 3 players on a stacked team... I guess if that is what they need Ill happily oblige, but It is getting less and less appealing to log onto the WCS server :/
Roll on January when we may actually have teams with 3 top players on each to keep things interesting. Gangnam v Geke, Omega v Spasm etc rather than them all on one team. Its actually mouth watering Heaven forbid that your KDR ratio or your Rank may be affected lol

[Erdenay]

Roll on January when we may actually have teams with 3 top players on each to keep things interesting. Gangnam v Geke, Omega v Spasm etc rather than them all on one team. Its actually mouth watering Heaven forbid that your KDR ratio or your Rank may be affected lol

You Sir, have to be retarded... No offence. i2o4 is so much better than Gekke (Who's not even good, IMHO) and I won't even go into Spasm one.

[WRXJIM]

You Sir, have to be retarded... No offence. i2o4 is so much better than Gekke (Who's not even good, IMHO) and I won't even go into Spasm one.

LOL. No offense taken, but maybe you should learn to spell before you call others retarded Just saying... Especially when its related to such a life changing and incredibly important issue such as WCS Counter Strike

All those names I listed are far better than myself, so I still stand by my "retarded" statement Sorry I offended you by not including your name in the list, clearly my point was missed by you. (I agree, Gekke isnt very good. Had I put more than 2 seconds of thought into that statement I could have come up with a far better player to use as an example)

[maynard]

because where is the fun being knifed by a Vaga in your own spawn before you can even finish buying weapons

You're obviously just incredibly slow.