Constitutional Rights

[thecat]

+1 for you.
This point can be applied both ways.

[Rage]

I just ordered 3 ar 15 lower receivers. FUCK YA

[anex]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Ya, because I was super serious and trying really really hard to counter his argument. Ask me if I care.

[Assassin]

Ya, because I was super serious and trying really really hard to counter his argument. Ask me if I care.

I'm going to go with...absolutely.

[-=Toy=-=Québec=-FR]

People like Alex Jones absolutely terrify me.

They're what's wrong with U.S.A. Fucking loons.

[Penis シ]

He had a great argument until he lost his cool. I give all the credit in the world to Piers' producer. What you saw in that interview was Jones come out with facts, numbers, and logic. At one point, Piers asks him what kind of gun was used in the separate shootings and Alex almost has it but then he goes into an ad hoc attack about people fleeing England, his charges at the Daily Mail, and then told him that if there was a boxing ring, he'd fight him.

What his producer did that was brilliant was drawing a line between him (the right) and the left by bringing in a Harvard professor that agreed with Piers right after and call what he had a "perverted version of history". Thus rectifying the gap between right and left. Crazy and educated. Extreme and logical. It's bullshit. It's theater. But.... brilliant.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

He had a great argument until he lost his cool. I give all the credit in the world to Piers' producer. What you saw in that interview was Jones come out with facts, numbers, and logic. At one point, Piers asks him what kind of gun was used in the separate shootings and Alex almost has it but then he goes into an ad hoc attack about people fleeing England, his charges at the Daily Mail, and then told him that if there was a boxing ring, he'd fight him.

What his producer did that was brilliant was drawing a line between him (the right) and the left by bringing in a Harvard professor that agreed with Piers right after and call what he had a "perverted version of history". Thus rectifying the gap between right and left. Crazy and educated. Extreme and logical. It's bullshit. It's theater. But.... brilliant.

do you need a tissue?

[Penis シ]

Nah, I use napkins.

I'm just saying that I'm fairly liberal and have a huge opposition to Piers on this topic. Instead of using his platform to attempt a balanced medium, he did a balancing act that Fox News could be envious of. That happened immediately after the incident when he was calling someone who supports gun rights an idiot and other names simply for having a differing opinion. What he did last night was obnoxious. I was really rooting for Alex Jones on that one, but when Piers started pushing buttons, I saw what he was doing. I'm just in admiration of how his producer put this ideological canyon between Alex Jones and Liberals. I think you can support abortion rights, marriage equality, AND gun rights. Piers seems to think anyone who supports the third is an idiot.

[Jeimuzu]

They can have my guns when they pry them from my cold dead arms. 20,000 died against 300. I'd like to see what the government would do against 80,000,000 Americans.

[Curdy]

Way i see it gun right is about protection from governments gone tyrannical, but over the years media and government seem to have turned a large number of you lot into passive citizens. Sure a semi rifle may seem like overkill, but are they banning the wrong guns after all handguns have killed more than these rifles, and mass shootings are very rare and only ever happen in gun free zones, im not saying everyone should be packing heat but people should be free to choose. Take for instance in the UK we have no guns only if you can pay a fortune and get through all the red tape you can, and we still had a mass shooting then, these shooting are much more rare than in America. But in UK we have a lot more violent crime than in America.

Guns are a deterrent much like nuclear bombs deter nation states from invading another nuclear armed nation.


Speaking as a none citizen.