Ping masking and one of the easiest ways to spot it.

[Bruce Dern]

oh that was all definitely in anger lol....i most likely will not buy admin now that all this is here for reference and proof. also, as several people have stated before, it must be something that valve or steam has done to change my latency because i was previously (a few years ago i used to play sporadically in ibis, and i would get around 10 latency. i have not changed anything since then (well aside from getting a new isp (went from comcast to verizon). have not changed any settings (except set my rates to server specifications) or done anything. i usually don't get any shit for it (or at least when i do, i tell people my circumstances and they leave it at that, because in the end i am not lagging and am fairly easy to kill :P)
edit: i also appreciate all that you admins do here, and definitely understand wanting to get rid of ping maskers. i've seen people in there that were lagging a hell of a lot and had latencies of 5 or 1 or whatever) lagging so much it made them hard to kill mind you. but when i am confronted on the matter and tell you all the absolute truth and give you ways to verify my claims, i expect to be left alone. what was i supposed to do? lie and say i was ping masking to get him off my back? i still couldn't have changed my latency...i mean unless i went to download a bunch of porn :P. i admit i got heated with gummybear both in game and in steam messages, but that was only because he was basically calling me a liar and telling me to fix something that i cannot possibly fix. it's like accusing me of murder and demanding that i show him the murder weapon....how am i supposed to help him lol. in the future, just please work a little bit harder before handing out bans and kicks all willy nilly. i gave you SEVERAL easy ways to find out that i was telling the truth

[Rellikdloc]

Not everything can happen at the snap of your fingers. Just b/c someone says they are not lying doesnt mean they are or are not. Yes you provided proof but that also takes time to look at and sort out the problem as to why this is happening in the first place. He kicked you and told you to fix it, correct you might not have been able to fix it but he was doing procedure. Sometimes a kick will take care of certain ppl that are playing illegaly. You were ban b/c you kept arguing with an admin and talking over him instead of listening to him you cant tell and admin what to do and to "leave you alone" b/c you told him the truth. Making this post is what you should have done when he kicked you the 1st time instead of rejoining when you knew there would be a problem. I mean you've known there was problem, you admitted that you had conflict over this before with starsmine. This post should have been written then and you would have never had this problem in the 1st place. Dont get your panties all in a bunch, next time just try and go about it in the right way and things will work themselves out like they did here today, its not like this problem even took a full day to get taken care of.

[StarsMine]

Ill apologize again about my personal kick though I cant speak for 5 lb gummy.
Though as zero showed, it still should not be possible. Playing ON the server gave him 5 latency.

Gl have fun, and next time you get shit, tell them to talk to me, or one of the other admins that have posted here. And make your posts more readable if you can. Capitalize your damn I's and the begging of your sentences. Paragraphs are your friends.

@ cyber, hell I have no idea, still should be yay...I think.

[i2o4]

An informative article on ping vs latency by a Valve programmer:
http://www.bluesnews.com/articles/latency_vs_ping.shtml

"Ping is a simple round trip time for a message from one computer to another."
Latency is more complicated, and is affected by variables such as client FPS, server FPS, and server ticrate.

So the assumption that latency = (ping - 40) based on your respective values of 5 and 45 should not be generalized as a rule of thumb. In Zero's case, his ping was only 1 or 5 above latency. I've been accused of ping masking as well, although not by admins. I usually have a ping of around 5 because I live close to the server and have a fiber optic connection, but my latency is considerably higher because I often get 20-30 FPS in WCS, depending on map and player activity.

[Patmonster]

An informative article on ping vs latency by a Valve programmer:
http://www.bluesnews.com/articles/latency_vs_ping.shtml

Very good article. So while ping - 40 maybe a general rule, it is not what is actually happening. I have to say since valve's most recent updates that ping below 5 is no longer an instant kickable offence.

BUT,
Let's just say - for shits and giggles - that he is ping masking. He isn't lagging or hurting anyone in the server. He dies when you shoot him, he shoots other people and they die just as normally, why on earth would we kick someone for that? I did a bit of googleing and while I haven't tested it yet, it seems like ping masking can be done by just a simple command. So his ping could be effected by a command he forgot he put in. Who knows? Point being, he isn't lagging, he isn't hurting anyone. No need for ban.

[StarsMine]

An informative article on ping vs latency by a Valve programmer:
http://www.bluesnews.com/articles/latency_vs_ping.shtml

"Ping is a simple round trip time for a message from one computer to another."
Latency is more complicated, and is affected by variables such as client FPS, server FPS, and server ticrate.

So the assumption that latency = (ping - 40) based on your respective values of 5 and 45 should not be generalized as a rule of thumb. In Zero's case, his ping was only 1 or 5 above latency. I've been accused of ping masking as well, although not by admins. I usually have a ping of around 5 because I live close to the server and have a fiber optic connection, but my latency is considerably higher because I often get 20-30 FPS in WCS, depending on map and player activity.

once you go below 45 ping, the ping-40 no longer works, and should show a latency of 5. If thats what your showing, and its not going below that your fine.

[Patmonster]

once you go below 45 ping, the ping-40 no longer works, and should show a latency of 5. If thats what your showing, and its not going below that your fine.

Well after some google searching I really couldn't find proof to deny or confirm that 5 is the min. anymore. Even in that article there is nothing that says anything about a "cap." But again, this just leads back to my second statement. If he isn't hurting anyone, no reason to kick/ban him in the future.

[Rellikdloc]

pat cmon did you read anything? he wasnt ban for ping masking only kicked.. he posted in here b/c he was having issues with that topic tho.