Ping masking and one of the easiest ways to spot it.

[Rellikdloc]

Not everything can happen at the snap of your fingers. Just b/c someone says they are not lying doesnt mean they are or are not. Yes you provided proof but that also takes time to look at and sort out the problem as to why this is happening in the first place. He kicked you and told you to fix it, correct you might not have been able to fix it but he was doing procedure. Sometimes a kick will take care of certain ppl that are playing illegaly. You were ban b/c you kept arguing with an admin and talking over him instead of listening to him you cant tell and admin what to do and to "leave you alone" b/c you told him the truth. Making this post is what you should have done when he kicked you the 1st time instead of rejoining when you knew there would be a problem. I mean you've known there was problem, you admitted that you had conflict over this before with starsmine. This post should have been written then and you would have never had this problem in the 1st place. Dont get your panties all in a bunch, next time just try and go about it in the right way and things will work themselves out like they did here today, its not like this problem even took a full day to get taken care of.

[StarsMine]

Ill apologize again about my personal kick though I cant speak for 5 lb gummy.
Though as zero showed, it still should not be possible. Playing ON the server gave him 5 latency.

Gl have fun, and next time you get shit, tell them to talk to me, or one of the other admins that have posted here. And make your posts more readable if you can. Capitalize your damn I's and the begging of your sentences. Paragraphs are your friends.

@ cyber, hell I have no idea, still should be yay...I think.

[i2o4]

An informative article on ping vs latency by a Valve programmer:
http://www.bluesnews.com/articles/latency_vs_ping.shtml

"Ping is a simple round trip time for a message from one computer to another."
Latency is more complicated, and is affected by variables such as client FPS, server FPS, and server ticrate.

So the assumption that latency = (ping - 40) based on your respective values of 5 and 45 should not be generalized as a rule of thumb. In Zero's case, his ping was only 1 or 5 above latency. I've been accused of ping masking as well, although not by admins. I usually have a ping of around 5 because I live close to the server and have a fiber optic connection, but my latency is considerably higher because I often get 20-30 FPS in WCS, depending on map and player activity.

[Patmonster]

An informative article on ping vs latency by a Valve programmer:
http://www.bluesnews.com/articles/latency_vs_ping.shtml

Very good article. So while ping - 40 maybe a general rule, it is not what is actually happening. I have to say since valve's most recent updates that ping below 5 is no longer an instant kickable offence.

BUT,
Let's just say - for shits and giggles - that he is ping masking. He isn't lagging or hurting anyone in the server. He dies when you shoot him, he shoots other people and they die just as normally, why on earth would we kick someone for that? I did a bit of googleing and while I haven't tested it yet, it seems like ping masking can be done by just a simple command. So his ping could be effected by a command he forgot he put in. Who knows? Point being, he isn't lagging, he isn't hurting anyone. No need for ban.

[StarsMine]

An informative article on ping vs latency by a Valve programmer:
http://www.bluesnews.com/articles/latency_vs_ping.shtml

"Ping is a simple round trip time for a message from one computer to another."
Latency is more complicated, and is affected by variables such as client FPS, server FPS, and server ticrate.

So the assumption that latency = (ping - 40) based on your respective values of 5 and 45 should not be generalized as a rule of thumb. In Zero's case, his ping was only 1 or 5 above latency. I've been accused of ping masking as well, although not by admins. I usually have a ping of around 5 because I live close to the server and have a fiber optic connection, but my latency is considerably higher because I often get 20-30 FPS in WCS, depending on map and player activity.

once you go below 45 ping, the ping-40 no longer works, and should show a latency of 5. If thats what your showing, and its not going below that your fine.

[Patmonster]

once you go below 45 ping, the ping-40 no longer works, and should show a latency of 5. If thats what your showing, and its not going below that your fine.

Well after some google searching I really couldn't find proof to deny or confirm that 5 is the min. anymore. Even in that article there is nothing that says anything about a "cap." But again, this just leads back to my second statement. If he isn't hurting anyone, no reason to kick/ban him in the future.

[Rellikdloc]

pat cmon did you read anything? he wasnt ban for ping masking only kicked.. he posted in here b/c he was having issues with that topic tho.

[Bruce Dern]

pat cmon did you read anything? he wasnt ban for ping masking only kicked.. he posted in here b/c he was having issues with that topic tho.

i was banned after being kicked and told to come back without ping masking and to fix my rates (which i did, and they were barely off by anything at all). both were for something i obviously could not control (short of moving or finding a new isp)
edit: or technically i was banned for "ignoring admins" i did not ignore him however, i told him my circumstances and that i couldn't do anything about it (except fix my rates slightly). so by my doing what i was told to do, i was banned

[Patmonster]

pat cmon did you read anything? he wasnt ban for ping masking only kicked.. he posted in here b/c he was having issues with that topic tho.

Rellik cmon, did you? damn dude. He was banned but that is WAYYY besides the point of what I was talking about.
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