(iReaper) Benihime STEAM_0:0:50856523 10-02-13

[XX0wnsXY]

Alright im going to go ahead and vote yes on this.

First of all, i was unaware this was handled by other clan members before...

Also, Watching this demo..they are undeniably hacks. Mistral, IMO is hacking, which doesn't fare well for benehime since they sometimes share accounts. I say get rid of both of these assholes.

[Assassin]

The evidence does seem to support a boot to the ass. Whether or not nem agrees.

[jwtemp]

My opinion matters for shit, and I recognize that, but I'm sitting at work, avoiding work, so I decided I'd just put my two cents in here.

Don't know either of these guys, but what I do know is a hacker is a hacker is a hacker. Hack in one place, you do it other places. I understand the need for spot on proof/evidence of hacking, otherwise you can easily find yourself in the midst of a witch hunt, but in this case we have solid evidence, in the form of admission from the user himself and demos of his hacks on another server.

That should be proof enough. Ban this guy and be done with it. If you don't, you're basically saying 'If you're a good enough hacker to hack without getting caught, come play on IBIS!'

[ZERO]

I want to point out that the writing is intended to say that it needs to be attached to the post and not a link to ftp. Also in some cases as in the past a preponderance of evidence is and can be used for bans. This is why I opened this thread back up so that I could ensure that all evidence even if non conclusive by itself can be brought up. This will allow me to better look at the situation as a whole and then reevaluate the decision with the same information those making it had. This is being done as a procedural process to ensure that nothing was over looked as this type of ban is very rare.

[ZERO]

Final Audit Check is now in progress I am closing the thread again as I now have from this along with other conversations with mutiple clan/admins I have collected all the case work. A decision on the appeal for this ban will be announced when I have finished a final review of all evicence and detemined if there was enough to warrent a ban.

[ZERO]

After review of the evidence I found a glaring evidence that would warrant a perma ban for anyone and it is the demo linked here: http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/sho...070#post154070

In this demo we not only find conclusive evidence of Benihime hacking, but him doing it UNDER THE IBIS NAME!

Upon finding this evidence I posed the following question to the clan:

Lets think for a sec how a clan member would be treated in this situation. Lets say for example that we got a demo of Owns hacking in some other server with the IBIS tag ON. I think we all agree she would get banned and kicked out of the clan. Thus it is only logical that we apply the same conditions to anyone representing this community by the placement of IBIS in their name.

There was an objection to the admittance of evidence from a server that is not our own.

Firstly let me address that any evidence we find of hacking on any server that is deemed to be trustworthy and valid can be used to support a ban (does not mean you will always get it). Lets all remember that we enforce VAC bans and bans from sourcebans b/c we know and trust these bans to be valid. We do not directly take bans from other servers b/c other than those two sources we need to personally review the demos to confirm for ourselves the player is a hacker.

Secondly if you where the IBIS tag you are effectively taking actions within the realm of the community regardless of where that may be. Therefore if we find evidence of anyone with IBIS in their name doing things in other servers that are against our own rules they will be punished accordingly. If you have IBIS in your name your representing this community; and therefore the admins, upper level admins, clan and myself have a duty to ensure that people are properly representing this community by holding people who do thing under our name accountable.


This ban stands however the reason for the ban shall be listed as hacking under the name of IBIS.