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Thread: Hiphopopotamus | 03-28-13 22:47 | STEAM_0:1:15003278

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    Default Hiphopopotamus | 03-28-13 22:47 | STEAM_0:1:15003278

    Name in Game: Hiphopopotamus
    Steam-ID: STEAM_0:1:15003278
    Where: WCS
    Link to ban: Link Here
    Reason for perma ban: Wallhacks [potential aim assist]

    Demo: Attachment 7211

    Ticks:

    2000: Double hs
    6900: Double hs again
    12400: Knows to look down [footsteps plausible?]
    16000: Tracing around corner
    18500: Doesn't move gun, yet nearly all bullets are finding their mark
    25400: 2nd Kill (last one), knows to look to his right – victim fired only 1 shot that would have indicated on radar
    28800: Cursor zips to victim’s head
    33000+33300+33800: sv_showimpacts
    37000: 3 kills, sv_showimpacts
    39500: Crow kill – granted 1 hp - still hit the small hitbox on the first shot
    41200: Waits for guy who would not have been on minimap, walls ***

    The red ticks would be my first suggestions for re-viewing the demo. While excuses can be made for some of these kills, the frequency seems a bit odd [note: there is more to the demo, I just stopped there because the final tick seemed rather conclusive?]
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    I have never hacked or used any extra programs, but I will try and address the issues that you have brought up in the demo.

    Tick 2000: That hallway is the most used on de_dust, I camped behind a box and domed the first 2 guys that weren't looking at me, not too crazy I don't think.

    6900: Double hs again - First guy dies with me spraying while aiming at his legs, that is recoil and the second kill wasn't a headshot just a spray and kill.

    12400: Knows to look down [footsteps plausible?] - After the fight in those main tunnels my whole team ran that way so I decided to check the long underway since we didn't have a single guy there. I jumped to check for someone and happened to see a guy, so I jumped again and sprayed to kill him.

    16000: Tracing around corner - The first 2 guys you can see clear as day, I sprayed a little and killed them. The 3rd guy jumps to the right and I saw him do it and was ready for him when he peeked back out.

    18500: Doesn't move gun, yet nearly all bullets are finding their mark - I sprayed and pulled my aimer underneath my targets, they were also being shot by my teammates. I don't know what hack you think I'm using to do this ... Magic bullets? I aim at one location and my bullets go somewhere else. At that tick I see recoil from a P90 ...

    25400: 2nd Kill (last one), knows to look to his right – victim fired only 1 shot that would have indicated on radar - I killed a guy on the left and then checked the right to see if anyone was there ... I peeked, saw a guy and ducked back into the tunnel and then came out to shoot since now I knew where he was... I do this constantly and I'm sure many players do.

    28800: Cursor zips to victim’s head - The cursor is on his chest, I sprayed and with recoil a bullet hit him in the head. Pretty sure everyone has seen recoil at work.

    33000+33300+33800: sv_showimpacts - The kills in that underground tunnel were all spray kills, and like you suggest I turned on "sv_showimpacts" and my aimer is again pulled lower than the target and sprayed. With sv_showimpacts on you can see that like 70% of my bullets miss. All that can be seen from these ticks is that I spray a lot with a P90 and rely on the bullets to consistently hit above my crosshairs with my spray.

    37000: 3 kills, sv_showimpacts - Again, I play a lot so I'm decent with the ak, I can't see how this is seen as hacks in any sort of way. If you're wondering how I hit guy behind the box, I did see him run behind it and assuming he didn't disappear I fired at the box to finish him off since I shot at him for a lil bit already. He also peeks from my left from behind the box and I readjusted my crosshairs to him there and when he ducks behind for the final time I shot at the box. Sv showimpacts clearly shows the first 2-3 bullets hit where I shot and the rest go in a random spray around my target.

    39500: Crow kill – granted 1 hp - still hit the small hitbox on the first shot - The crow comes down the underpass shooting, I heard the shots so I looked down. I wasn't ready for a crow, but the crow gets stuck at the corner of that box, if you can't hit a crow that got stuck I don't know what to say.

    41200: Waits for guy who would not have been on minimap, walls *** - There was 2 guys fighting my friend, he kills one and I come in and kill the other. The game should be over right? When it doesn't end and the guy who died second to last is alive the only place he could have resurrected is back at his spawn. If he had respawned at his corpse we would have seen him so that meant he was going to most likely take the most direct route back to help his friend who when he respawned was still alive. I waited at the spot and aimed where I knew he was most likely to come from.

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    C'mon Hip. You were banned from JYD Servers a long time ago. You use to try and rejoin with different IPs and STEAM. ID's. "Someone" had to actually shut down your node to get your attention. Please, just go in peace and beat the hell out of some other noobs!

    If anyone wants more details on bans just throw me a PM and I will fill in. Cooter (Hiphop) is a good guy but he has a hard time letting go. Be good m8s

    @@@@@@@@@WHY DO YOU PUT ME IN THISVSITUATION COOT?@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

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    well when i got banned my brother told me and i said dont worry holyknight will stand up for you and watch the demo and know theres no hacks, some luck some spraying and alot of skill.

    But if you gave up hope on me /shrug nothing a grown man can do.

    BTW i was to this day never banned with proof always speculation and one does not hack in wcs ... its just dumb :P

    P.S. My brothers and I are 29, 25, 24 and 22 respectively the days of acting like kids is pretty much gone and I do remember those fuck the police and authority days. Was good playing with you guys if anyone decides to stand up and do the "right" thing just let me know.

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    Well, I did not watch the demo. There was always so much drama surrounding Coot that it was a clandestine topic at best. I wish you Russian immigrants the best. The ULAs here will review this. There is no way that I would expect anything else. It has always made me feel shitty when I spoke against you. Somehow I gained a level of trust. If you are on the run and need a safe haven I am here. These servers are quick to ban inappropriate behavior. I am an outsider here for the most part. Please tell your brother that I literally pay for my admin just like the rest. My good 'ole code monkey days don't matter. Orange box and my military commitment washed them away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK5150 View Post
    The ULAs here will review this.
    Rest assured, they will evaluate the demo and if it is inconclusive or inaccurate, the ban will be removed immediately. While I appreciate your feedback and hope that it will aid in the ULA's processing of the demo, I stand by the ban and will do what I can to encourage ULA to expedite the process so some decision is made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef C Green View Post
    Rest assured, they will evaluate the demo and if it is inconclusive or inaccurate, the ban will be removed immediately. While I appreciate your feedback and hope that it will aid in the ULA's processing of the demo, I stand by the ban and will do what I can to encourage ULA to expedite the process so some decision is made.
    I do appreciate that the ULA's will look at it as soon as they have time. However, I do urge you to look at the demo again with a neutral point of view and let me know what you see. I'll check back in tomorrow, alas it is time for sleep!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiphopopotamous View Post
    I do appreciate that the ULA's will look at it as soon as they have time. However, I do urge you to look at the demo again with a neutral point of view and let me know what you see. I'll check back in tomorrow, alas it is time for sleep!
    When pursuing your ban, not only did I allow the events to play out in server, but also re-visited them in the demo as I gathered the ticks provided, and used my normal methods to determine if a ban was warranted. Playing them over led me to the ban as opposed to outright doing it in the servers. Furthermore, once a player is accused of hacking, it must go through proper channels, to which I no longer have control once posted.

    I have sent messages to a few ULA to evaluate this case at their earliest convenience. As I understand this does not help your immediate position, I am more than willing to submit myself to 2,5,10X the ban duration you sustain [at your digression], provided it is overturned. Hopefully this will offer some compensation for the time away from the servers you experience - provided the ban does not go through, but the decision stands until others have evaluated the case. And as you mentioned, it is indeed time for some sleep v.v
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiphopopotamous View Post
    a bunch of justification for what's probably hacks
    Heh. Hilarious. Good luck buddy - I highly, highly doubt Chef posts a perma thread unless he's pretty positive you're a hacking fuck. He doesn't just go off half cocked like some asshats around here (read: me).

    I wish I could review this demo, but alas, I'm at work. HK's recognition of you and your hackery past and your perma from another server bodes real well though! Can't wait to see this play out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwtemp View Post
    Heh. Hilarious. Good luck buddy - I highly, highly doubt Chef posts a perma thread unless he's pretty positive you're a hacking fuck. He doesn't just go off half cocked like some asshats around here (read: me).

    I wish I could review this demo, but alas, I'm at work. HK's recognition of you and your hackery past and your perma from another server bodes real well though! Can't wait to see this play out.
    actually Holyknight / HK is talking about me as a total dick to people and not following rules and generally being a brat on JYD forums
    http://sb.myjyd.com/index.php?p=banl...otamus&Submit= I also used to play under the tag Osamabinfuckin

    Was never and still never perma banned for being a "hacker" because i have never hacked. But it is unsettling to see two people voice their "opinions" without watching the demo. Guilty until proven innocent I guess. I think I should explain; I am not here because I highly value playing here nor will I dearly miss anyone simply because I haven't been on this server over 10x in the past 12 months but I do take personally my name being besmirched when I just play better than most and have good days and great days. I have nothing to hide.
    Last edited by hiphopopotamous; 03-29-2013 at 09:14 AM.

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