WCS themed Mafia Game

[What]

You have ignored my entire you baiting us argument and our trying to bull rush the conversation elsewhere. I'm fully aware I have a target on my back from the last game we played, and I know that the mafia is probably gonna off me the first chance they get, so I am doing what I can to make sure the Town is on the right track while I can, so far a few of you have shown yourself to be likely mafia candidates, so the more I get you talking the better off things will be.

[Nemesis]

You have ignored my entire you baiting us argument and our trying to bull rush the conversation elsewhere. I'm fully aware I have a target on my back from the last game we played, and I know that the mafia is probably gonna off me the first chance they get, so I am doing what I can to make sure the Town is on the right track while I can, so far a few of you have shown yourself to be likely mafia candidates, so the more I get you talking the better off things will be.

I did comment on it, remember when I said I wasn't sure if you're stupid or lying? that fits in there.

Also, that is the biggest bullshit statement I've ever heard! No one has said you are a target, why on earth would you make a case that you are? again, I'm not sure if it's that your new to this or lying. It's the morning of the first day and you're acting like you've done so much good there's no way you wont die. That seems extremely suspicious, or at least extremely foolish.

---------- Post added at 01:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:26 AM ----------

And since you're "dead anyways" why don't you tell us what your role is?

[What]

Dear, Dear Nemesis,
You are only cementing yourself as either a retard who has been feigning intelligence this whole time through extensive google searches or again, trying to misdirect. It is clear that you are at the very least lying about your motives, especially your continued failed logic of supporting no lynch as a viable option. I believe you may be trying to do good, albeit in the most half assed and moronic way possible, but its far more likely you are just trying to have some good ol'mafia fun since your game was cut short last time. Saying I am lying is not a viable response to an accusation.

[Nemesis]

Dear, Dear Nemesis,
You are only cementing yourself as either a retard who has been feigning intelligence this whole time through extensive google searches or again, trying to misdirect. It is clear that you are at the very least lying about your motives, especially your continued failed logic of supporting no lynch as a viable option. I believe you may be trying to do good, albeit in the most half assed and moronic way possible, but its far more likely you are just trying to have some good ol'mafia fun since your game was cut short last time. Saying I am lying is not a viable response to an accusation.

Please. Please detail each scenario, the first with a no lynch and the second with a town lynch, and show how one is better. Please I want to believe you're not a fucking chin licker but its just. so. hard.

---------- Post added at 01:36 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:34 AM ----------

Also, What has refused to explain why he has lied twice already and attempts to bury it in a mass of falsehoods.

[What]

lets say for shits and giggles 8 town, 6 mafia or you know what I'll do you one better 10 town 4 mafia. We no lynch, day 2 roles around either 9 town 4 mafia, or 8 town 4 mafia due to a killer role being out there. Now lets see what has the town learned from day 1? not a fucking thing, same problem, but now its even more important for a mafia to be lynched, but there is no new information to go off of, just red herrings of "well that guy seemed to be against that guy and so forth. Result: Only a weakening of the town, and most importantly no benefit what so ever for the town can be derived from this choice, it is a lose lose choice.

Now we vote to lynch someone on day one. Its not a shot in the dark its based off of likely suspects derived from their actions, and/or eliminating a weak link who will only confuse us at best. Scenario 1: A mafia gets killed, day 2: 9 town 3 mafia or 8 town 3 mafia. We know can look back at who defended the guy who was mafia, even if only indirectly and make better decisions, also if a cop is in play, then we will be able to start picking off targets no problem and town wins.
Worst case from a lynch, we take out a townie, and any townie who gets lynched on day one clearly wasn't bringing anything to the table anyway. We can also look at who stumped for that guy the most and then pick out the fact they are likely mafia, still a win.
But a the most basic level: to vote to lynch allows the possibility of a win win scenario. Either on day 1 or day 2 we are going to have to roll the dice on someone, there is possible benefit from taking this chance on day 1, by not taking it we can only hurt ourselves.

---------- Post added at 12:44 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:43 AM ----------

Also where in the fuck did I lie? All I see is you not liking the interpretation of the facts which I presented in favor of your interpretation, which you have a vested interest in lying about.

[Nemesis]

lets say for shits and giggles 8 town, 6 mafia or you know what I'll do you one better 10 town 4 mafia. We no lynch, day 2 roles around either 9 town 4 mafia, or 8 town 4 mafia due to a killer role being out there. Now lets see what has the town learned from day 1? not a fucking thing, same problem, but now its even more important for a mafia to be lynched, but there is no new information to go off of, just red herrings of "well that guy seemed to be against that guy and so forth. Result: Only a weakening of the town, and most importantly no benefit what so ever for the town can be derived from this choice, it is a lose lose choice.

Now we vote to lynch someone on day one. Its not a shot in the dark its based off of likely suspects derived from their actions, and/or eliminating a weak link who will only confuse us at best. Scenario 1: A mafia gets killed, day 2: 9 town 3 mafia or 8 town 3 mafia. We know can look back at who defended the guy who was mafia, even if only indirectly and make better decisions, also if a cop is in play, then we will be able to start picking off targets no problem and town wins.
Worst case from a lynch, we take out a townie, and any townie who gets lynched on day one clearly wasn't bringing anything to the table anyway. We can also look at who stumped for that guy the most and then pick out the fact they are likely mafia, still a win.
But a the most basic level: to vote to lynch allows the possibility of a win win scenario. Either on day 1 or day 2 we are going to have to roll the dice on someone, there is possible benefit from taking this chance on day 1, by not taking it we can only hurt ourselves.

---------- Post added at 12:44 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:43 AM ----------

Also where in the fuck did I lie? All I see is you not liking the interpretation of the facts which I presented in favor of your interpretation, which you have a vested interest in lying about.

Since this is still an educational game for new players, I want everyone to look closely at what What has said here and know that this is one of the worst strategies possible for the game. Lesson over.


First you skew the numbers to make you look better. I'm going to go through with your same ratios and show you what happens with a random lynch.

10 Ts, 4Ms (which is wrong by the way, we know for sure that there are neutrals or neutral evils). In the town side you probably have something like a cop, an investigator, a vigilanty, a doc or two, maybe a whore. No one has been allowed to use their abilities yet since it's the first day. You want to random lynch? YOU HAVE A 72% CHANCE TO KILL A TOWNIE! 72%! How is that a good gamble? So you random lynch, do you get lucky and lynch a mafia? maybe. Or do you lynch one of the cops, thus cutting your knowledge down by 50% or do you take out your own doc, thus making it not possible for the investigators' to reveal their information early on as they would be too vulnerable. Now you would also have the mafia who will 100% kill a townie so there's another hit you take. What are the chances of loosing two docs or two investigators? only about 15% is that good enough for you?

With no lynch the first day you are still losing a townie at night, but with this many people you'll be in ok shape as the investigators (hopefully you have two) will ONLY SAY WHAT THEY ARE ONCE THEY FOUND OUT WHO THE MAFIA IS!!!! <-- hint. and then can be protected after a positive lynch at night, thus extending the days.

Now, on to you lying.

I've provided evidence to exactly what I said and did, you did not. You refuse to, only spouting that "Nemesis lied" Yet you refuse to back it up with anything.

[What]

Its clear that you are trying to mislead everyone here. The percentages are meaningless and your continued instance on it being a blind or random lynch displays your ignorance once again. It is not blind, and you still did not address the issue of how in the fuck day 2 is any better of choice to start guessing rather than day 1? No lynch is nothing but lose lose, that alone is enough to disqualify if from being a viable option.

It is clear that we are on two different sides here, either that you are the biggest retard that has every graced the pages of IBIS, and since I know thecat is a person, I know that can't be true, so you must be intentionally trying to fuck the town over. When I die and everyone sees that I am a townie, it is my last will and testament that Nemesis be murdered with his own severed penis choking the life out of him.