WCS themed Mafia Game

[brett friggin favre]

Also 90% sure Brett is also Mafia based on how he responds to his own changing opinions.

it's funny because you say that after going with my initial vote, which was against locust, saying he was likely mafia for falling into wolf's accidental trap. now i'm more convinced he's just dumb (see carm's scathing post). in that regard, sure, lynching him would almost be as neutral as no lynch as he won't be much help either way. but if you vote him for being mafia and say i'm one of them at the same time...just go back to the first votes.

in response to me changing my mind, things change in this game. i listen to reasoning, i add my own thoughts, weigh the options, and state my opinion. if my opinion changes, it's because new ideas have been brought to light or i have had some sort of revelation about it. being swayed by facts is just logic, not a sign of mafia.

meanwhile, there's you, pleading with us to not vote no lynch, and just throwing your vote where you think you can get the most numbers, not caring who's lynched as long as it's someone, and disagreeing with the three other people who have been arguing for no lynch, but who haven't been throwing votes around. i'm going with the conservative folks on this and maybe that'll be my downfall, but at least i won't be the one leading the charge into the garbage disposal.

[What]

it's funny because you say that after going with my initial vote, which was against locust, saying he was likely mafia for falling into wolf's accidental trap. now i'm more convinced he's just dumb (see carm's scathing post). in that regard, sure, lynching him would almost be as neutral as no lynch as he won't be much help either way. but if you vote him for being mafia and say i'm one of them at the same time...just go back to the first votes.

in response to me changing my mind, things change in this game. i listen to reasoning, i add my own thoughts, weigh the options, and state my opinion. if my opinion changes, it's because new ideas have been brought to light or i have had some sort of revelation about it. being swayed by facts is just logic, not a sign of mafia.

meanwhile, there's you, pleading with us to not vote no lynch, and just throwing your vote where you think you can get the most numbers, not caring who's lynched as long as it's someone, and disagreeing with the three other people who have been arguing for no lynch, but who haven't been throwing votes around. i'm going with the conservative folks on this and maybe that'll be my downfall, but at least i won't be the one leading the charge into the garbage disposal.

My vote is not random, there is a reason behind everything. It is you picking up on the same flawed logic of Nemesis completely out of the blue which is suspicious as hell. Plus your the "we for sure got a blood mage, guys and that means someone comes back to life"
A: How do you know such a role exists
B: why would such a role revive people and not just act as a doctor or protector role to be true to game play
C: How is this role triggered? Can mafia revive as well?

You pulled a race, role, and ability out of your ass in an effort to make it seem like no lynch is totally okay since we can just bring that guy who the mafia off back to life when there is no way to no this, and no evidence to support it either.

[What]

In fact, im not gonna rush into this as of now: Unvote Locust

[Chikun]

Vote No Lynch

Looking for more(?) information and exposition from others before doing anything hasty.

[What]

God Dammit you stupid fuckers, we are gonna be hosed if you go with no lynch. It is only a lose-lose scenario with a slim chance of providing some useful info. NOTHING GOOD WILL COME FROM SUCH A VOTE

[acolyte_to_jippity]

God Dammit you stupid fuckers, we are gonna be hosed if you go with no lynch. It is only a lose-lose scenario with a slim chance of providing some useful info. NOTHING GOOD WILL COME FROM SUCH A VOTE

the way i understand it the likelyhood that you'll end up with 2 fewer innocents after this night is FAR higher than you ending up with one less innocent and one less mafia. why is that a good thing?

[Erdenay]

the way i understand it the likelyhood that you'll end up with 2 fewer innocents after this night is FAR higher than you ending up with one less innocent and one less mafia. why is that a good thing?

... Lol. Do you have to do this trolling, Aco?

[acolyte_to_jippity]

... Lol. Do you have to do this trolling, Aco?

no, i'm honestly curious. why is no lynch such a bad first day move? you have nothing to go off of, and considering how you're much mor elikely to increase the ratio of mafia to living innocents, it's really just shooting yourself in the foot.

[What]

It all comes down to information, if you are going to be paralyzed from action cause you're hemming and hawing over who may or may not be mafia, then logically no one would ever vote for anyone. On Day 2 we will know that 1-2 people are now dead and.......... nothing more than we have now. Its not like the death scenes tom posts are gonna be, "So nemesis killed this guy" or something like that. The best way to get info is to take action, not sit back and slowly die because we would rather die making no choice and the risk making the wrong one to win.

[brett friggin favre]

My vote is not random, there is a reason behind everything. It is you picking up on the same flawed logic of Nemesis completely out of the blue which is suspicious as hell. Plus your the "we for sure got a blood mage, guys and that means someone comes back to life"
A: How do you know such a role exists
B: why would such a role revive people and not just act as a doctor or protector role to be true to game play
C: How is this role triggered? Can mafia revive as well?

You pulled a race, role, and ability out of your ass in an effort to make it seem like no lynch is totally okay since we can just bring that guy who the mafia off back to life when there is no way to no this, and no evidence to support it either.

tom assured us a bloodbath, but didn't say it would be over fast. thinking wcs, that sounds like when you have a nebula and blood mage on the same team. people dying all over, but the rounds still last a while. this is why i say (with 90% certainty if i recall, though that may have been about something else), that we have a blood mage or similar role. i'm not sure exactly how it works, my guess would be a 1 or 2 shot use, or maybe 2 rezzing races (1 shot each), get pm'd with who was killed that night, and are given the option to resurrect one. i don't think they can rez someone who was lynched, that would just kill progress. i don't think mafia can resurrect either, but i could be wrong about that. i'm sure that there is a more traditional doctor role, but its hard to imagine tom would pass the opportunity to throw in this twist. i'm not using this as an argument that no lynch is fine, i'm saying that such a role's existence would minimize damage in all cases and would be particularly beneficial if we don't lynch anyone, because if we lynch a townie we're boned.

i see that you unvoted, and i think that's a good choice. given what happened in the first 2 mafia games (including the one that ended after day 1), the voters went with the first shoddy evidence and lynched a townie. so voting on shoddy evidence is only a good idea when you're lacking in power races, and you need to get a little lucky and in those games, vt's were common. now we have none, so the idea of no lynch can be entertained. we need to see who kills who and how, and if anyone comes back, who may have been investigated, what may have been found, all that stuff. that's our best shot, and if we lynch on shoddy evidence, we have a good chance to lynch a townie. a townie who we KNOW has powers that were meant to HELP us. in a standard game, you'll most likely lynch a VT, which isn't a big deal. but with all the power roles in play here...i don't feel like losing one because someone came up with rag-tag reason.