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    ultimate price:http://www.microcenter.com/product/3...1155_Processor

    Cant get any better then that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grits View Post
    I'll let you shop for bundles/deals/used/new/refurb/etc. What I'd build right now using my 8 years of building high-end workstations, 7 years in the IT field, and lifetime of being a PC gamer as the guiding experience: (Just so you know I'm not some schmoe giving you newegg's latest combo)

    • Intel Core i7-3770K
    • SilverStone Temjin Series Case
    • SeaSonic X Series X-850 PSU
    • GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 Motherboard
    • Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB PC3 12800
    • XFX Radeon HD 7950
    • Monoprice 27" IPS LED CrystalPro Monitor


    I believe this to represent a great bang for buck that you won't have to upgrade for years, however, upgrade options will be available, because its a current platform. The case, PSU, and monitor will last you through several future builds. I have chosen brands that I have grown to love working with through the years based on service life and how they handle RMAs when something does go wrong. I have used each part listed in a build at some point or another aside from the 3770K as most users opt down for the i5 (against my recommendation). All of these items can be found at various places at differing prices.

    For storage, really, it has to fit you. I do recommend a Samsung SSD that you can fit in, and at least a 7200RPM 1TB hard drive.

    Lastly, if you're going to overclock at all, I can recommend coolers as well. I used to be a product tester for Cooler Master and Xigmatek and was able to use and test many coolers at certain points. Back in the day, I had a shortlived record for the 4th fastest air cooled Core i7 920 in the world.

    Good luck, and happy building!

    ---------- Post added at 01:07 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:57 AM ----------

    One more thing!!!! lol

    I made a lot of assumptions on the computer usage habits would be, based on you placing this on a forum dedicated to gaming. You could lower several of the options on the build if you don't game very often. I still like having the extra head room. It prevents you from having to upgrade/open the computer again for a good while longer, as opposed to stair stepping upgrades. The HD7X00 series has a lot of great HT options as well via the HDMI out, if thats important to you.

    Also, if you're primary listening method will be headphones, I recommend a decent DAC as well. It makes a huge difference in music/game sound quality.
    Okay wow! That's a fucking fantastic start! Also good info. I don't see the point in over clocking imo. I heard it lowers the life of a cpu.

    75% of what I do on my pc is game I can't run a lot of the newer games as I would like to though thus would like an upgrade that would last some time. (I like retro games I have a lost of emulators.) The other 25% is spent watching moves reddit/imgur youtube and browsing the web. I just got a 1080p toshiba tv. I like to hook my pc up to it to watch my shows. HDMI is a must so get that shit rolling.

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    Just roll with a HP laptop like I do
    Quote Originally Posted by maynard View Post
    thx for all the opinions and advice ppl... aside from rage lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by ZERO
    Think of the reserved slot as a vip ticket to the club. You get to go past the line and kick someone out of the club so you can get in. However if on your way to the club some fat ass gets stuck in the door when the bouncer goes to check him then you got to wait for the fire department to cut his fat ass out of the door before you can get in.

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    If you want to use it as an HTPC as well, I recommend a few more things to make it really worth it. First, familiarize yourself with Usenet, Sickebard, and Couch Potato. Its the TV/Movie lovers dream setup. Sickbeard monitors the TV shows you like, and automatically downloads the episode as it becomes available. IE, within a few hours from the official airing, the newest Game of Thrones in crisp 1080p is downloaded and ready for me to watch. I use NZBGeek and Astraweb as my providers. If you want more info on this, PM, as I've already said too much.

    Next, buy an Xbox 360 adapter for the thing. When in the living room, on the couch, keyboard/mouse is just cumbersome. Enjoy playing DiRT, GRiD, Mirros Edge, etc using the controller, on the couch, instead of secluding youself away from the family . Steam's Big Picture is made for this as well.

    Last, get a Logitech Harmony 900 or better and an extralong HDMI cable from monoprice.

    Oh, and when you build, take your time and do it right. One of my pet peeves are these "expert" DIY pc builders, that just slap the thing together, and it just looks like a rats nest. Cable management helps with air flow, dust accumulation, and makes that expensive, indulgent purchase, look professional, as opposed to a hack job. Examples:

    Here is one I got in the office from a "Pro" at home computer builder. Some decent parts, some bad, regardless, it looks like utter crap, and is ultra common:



    Here is a good example from an older build. Just a little more work, not perfect wire management (no extra money spent on it) but the difference is huge:
    Last edited by Grits; 04-30-2013 at 10:18 AM.

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    I get the feeling that a large problem with that rats nest is there is no way to get behind the mobo tray to put the unused wires.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zero
    So... what your trying to tell me is that you saw a spherical square?

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    Zip ties and straps. Any other excuse is laziness.
    Make all your last demands for I will forsake you and I'll meet your eyes for the very first time, for the very last.

    maynard <ibis>: they are awkward and last 2 damn long. I prefer thinner smaller ones

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    I would like to start this convo by stating just how much AMD sucks huge cock. Stay with intel.
    Moving on,
    This is a computer I just picked out for myself like 2 weeks ago but haven't ordered since I got my laptop to work again! (The goal was to keep it at $1000)

    Case - Rosewill REDBONE U3 Black Computer Case (Great wire management, Change it if you want, just make sure it's ATX)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811147160

    Power Supply - Rosewill RP600V2-S-SL 600W Power Supply (600W will do w/e you want for a normal gaming computer) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182032

    Mother Board - ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX Intel Motherboard (Good motherboard here, 4 x SATA 6GB/s(for a faster HD connection) SLI Compatable so if you want to go overboard and buy two video cards, just click the link and read the rest.)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157293

    CPU - Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 Quad-Core Desktop Processor (Really, the best bang for your buck atm. If you're going with intel for a chip set, this will be the processor you will get.)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116502

    Hard Drive - Seagate SV35 Series 1TB 3.5" SATA 6.0Gb/s Enterprise Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (This is where I see people getting picky with my setup. GREAT hard drive, but it comes down to if you want one or two hard drives or if you want a Solid State as well, if that's something you want, we just bought a solid state for a desktop and it's running great and I'll post that link as well.)

    Memory - G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR (1600mhz speed on a ram stick is what you are looking for. Nothing higher because you won't be over clocking you ram )
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231416

    Video Card - EVGA SuperClocked GeForce GTX 660 02G-P4-2662-KR Video Card (After doing a lot a research this was the best card for the price. I will also include the benchmark comparing it to other cards. This will play anything out there on close to highest graphics atm.)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130826
    http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gp...eForce+GTX+660

    CD/DVD Bay - ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS (I just threw something cheep in there, Plays/Burns CD/DVDs, if you want a blu ray, have at it)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135204

    Monitor - BenQ GW2450 Glossy Black 24" 4ms (GTG) Widescreen LED Backlight LCD Monitor (This is going to also be one of those choices you have. Honestly I run down to my local best buy and see what's on their open box rack so I can see there are no dead pixels. But this one looked like a good fit for what I was looking for and was good price.)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824014299


    If I forgot anything let me know. If there is something I'm missing or your questioning let me know!

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    Why the fuck are you recommending an i7 an a 660 for a gaming rig...
    First build was better, though for gaming I would save the hundred bucks and get an i5.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zero
    So... what your trying to tell me is that you saw a spherical square?

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    Stars is right. Unless you're doing video production, you don't need an i7. i5 runs at the same speed, the difference is hyperthreading. Games rarely EVER use hyperthreading and the difference is minimal, anyway. hyperthreading is used for video production to render faster. drop that, now.

    As for the video card, i'd recommend evga geforce gtx 660

    It's the card I just got and evga lets you use the card you have as sort of a "trade in" to step up and upgrade.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...FQsy4AodOV4AXg

    plus it's cheaper than the xfx card.

    Always go big on the power supply. something in the 700s should be good and gives you room to improve, but you NEVER want to underpower your rig. Ask Maymay about bad PSUs.

    If you want, you could just clone my newest build, but be SURE to shop around. microcenter tends to have some better prices, but i used newegg to share my wishlist.

    http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/Pu...umber=26488707

    Note, you can get a mid OR a full tower, a full tower is just more roomy and has more space for add ons. I went with a full tower, the one in the wishlist, only in black and green instead of white and red.
    Quote Originally Posted by maynard View Post
    your helmet is being shipped.

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    Such a bad PSU recommendation....

    NEVER skimp on the PSU. Go with a 80+ bronze cert at the least.

    Example of one with expandability, potential for stable OC utilization, and stability altogether - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139010

    Antec is a great brand as well. Honestly, I wont use any other brand (Antec or Corsair) unless the internals are made by the same parent company.
    Make all your last demands for I will forsake you and I'll meet your eyes for the very first time, for the very last.

    maynard <ibis>: they are awkward and last 2 damn long. I prefer thinner smaller ones

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