Help meh with new computer por favor...

[jwtemp]

Just wanted to throw this in here for the AMD fanboys: ( I used to be one, I know how you feel, you miss the days of yore)

http://anandtech.com/bench/Product/362?vs=677

This is a comparison of a lowly Core i3, trading blows with AMDs top tier Quad... the i3 is cheaper

On a super budget gaming rig, the A seires would make sense... not here



http://anandtech.com/bench/CPU/343

Thanks for posting this. I knew my stance on Intel versus AMD in today's market was correct, as I'd done the research myself before I built my new rig, but I was too lazy to actually provide sources.

[ZERO]

Intel has better thermal protection for thier chips as well, that alone is all I need to hear. You never know when that can save your ass after your cooling system fails 1 day.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

you miss the point. I never said AMD was always better then intel. Im simply saying that when building a dedicated gaming rig for a decent price AMD should be your CPU of choice. here is an example: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?...t-Core&id=1780

Even the AMD FX-8350 is cheaper then an i5 and is ranked 40 in HIGH end CPU's Most cpus ranked above it are CPUs meant for servers, ranging from $400 to $4000.

bottom line, in this example you can get a CPU for $179 that is benchmarked 100 ranks higher then an i5 which i cannot find below $199

[jwtemp]

you miss the point. I never said AMD was always better then intel. Im simply saying that when building a dedicated gaming rig for a decent price AMD should be your CPU of choice. here is an example: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?...t-Core&id=1780

Even the AMD FX-8350 is cheaper then an i5 and is ranked 40 in HIGH end CPU's Most cpus ranked above it are CPUs meant for servers, ranging from $400 to $4000.

bottom line, in this example you can get a CPU for $179 that is benchmarked 100 ranks higher then an i5 which i cannot find below $199

Seriously Mikey, if you think AMD is good for gaming, take a look at these benchmarks. This is a comparison of the chip you mentioned (AMD FX 8350, $179 today on Newegg, $20 coupon) versus an Intel i5 3750K ($219 on Newegg today).

http://anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=701

Scroll to the bottom and look at performance in the games they list. The Intel chip destroys the AMD. It's not even a comparison. If you compare the other chips, especially at the top tiers, you'll see that Intel has AMD beat by even bigger margins. Like I said earlier, AMD is way behind. The single benchmark you showed, and that I looked up in 3DMark 2011, for the 8350 seems to be really good, unfortunately a single benchmark rarely paints the whole processing picture.

Intel wouldn't be in business selling processors at a bloated price while AMD had amazing processors that were super cheap. That isn't how the market works. If that were the case, I'd have an AMD, they would be on top and we'd be dissing Intel right now.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Seriously Mikey, if you think AMD is good for gaming, take a look at these benchmarks. This is a comparison of the chip you mentioned (AMD FX 8350, $179 today on Newegg, $20 coupon) versus an Intel i5 3750K ($219 on Newegg today).

http://anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=701

Scroll to the bottom and look at performance in the games they list. The Intel chip destroys the AMD. It's not even a comparison. If you compare the other chips, especially at the top tiers, you'll see that Intel has AMD beat by even bigger margins. Like I said earlier, AMD is way behind. The single benchmark you showed, and that I looked up in 3DMark 2011, for the 8350 seems to be really good, unfortunately a single benchmark rarely paints the whole processing picture.

Intel wouldn't be in business selling processors at a bloated price while AMD had amazing processors that were super cheap. That isn't how the market works. If that were the case, I'd have an AMD, they would be on top and we'd be dissing Intel right now.

Bottom line, AMD is for bargin shoppers trying to save a buck. If what everyone here says holds any value. What intel processor and MoBo would be recommended for someone with a 3000 dollar budget. Do AMD GPU's even work with intel? Carm should buy a GFX Titan.

[Carmichal]

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230 not 359 at the microcenter here.

Thinking about this gpu? thoughts?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125423

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130810

or that

Im 90% certain I want this board

[jwtemp]

Woo! 3770K on the cheapz! Best CPU for the money right now (if you buy at Microcenter like a boss! )

As for the video card, again, it's going to boil down to preference.

First, I'd recommend the EVGA GTX 670 [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130787] over the Gigabyte you listed. Same price, tiny bit better performance. Second, I've compared two Zotac brands on Tom's Hardware, but they should be almost identical to the comparison of the EVGA GTX 670 FTW and EVGA GTX 660 Ti SuperClocked. In case you aren't sure what you're looking at here, this is imply average FPS values for the two cards at Ultra settings (everything maxed and all effects enabled in DirectX 11):

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2...d%5B5726%5D=on

Looking at these numbers, the 660 Ti is clearly the better value, but the GTX 670 is clearly the more powerful card. If you want to play on Ultra Max High l33t settings though, perhaps that extra $90 is worth it. You'll also be playing games on High settings for longer with the GTX 670. If it were my choice to make, I'd spring for it, but if you only need High quality settings, go with the 660 Ti. I'm just a graphics guy, myself.

Getting closer now!

[Carmichal]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118046

I have only heard good things about this brand of heatsink fan coolers... since I will not be overclocking more than likely it should keep it icey enough.

[StarsMine]

I dont mind zalman, but I dont know about that cooler, I dont care much for the idea of all copper. All it will do is degrade without a plating to protect it. that time you touched it, eched, that air, oxidizing it....

For a cheep cooler I highly recomend either the xigmitec gaia(actually performs the same as the 212) or cooler master hyper 212. A step up would be the dark knight.

[Steamer]

Facepalm eminent.

Hyper 212 is fucking great.

My uncle has had a similar Zalman for 3 years (no cleaning LOL) in a humid basement, no oxidation.

The oxidation has barely any noticeable impact (ON AIR) on actual heat transfer. You may get a bit of a green discolor after a long time but this is usually only if you are in a decently humid environment and is cleanable. A great almost pure copper heatsink will rarely oxidize if kept "clean".

Get some Silver thermal paste!