Pokemon Mafia: Gotta Catch'em scum!

[BladeTwinSwords]

Well obviously this is closed setup since the roles were handpicked and not from a predetermined set but the fact still stands that not all games have cops.

[What]

Blackmage has continued to assert something that is highly unlikely. And that quote you had from me? I was the doctor in that game, it obviously behooves me to throw suspicion off of the possibility of certain roles existing if it keeps me off the radar, which is why when I quoted the stuff about masons I included the part about there not being a cop, so the mafia might not think to look for one. Then no one wanted to put any effort in and I was forced to claim.
I also hope that everyone realizes that Blackmage's death vindicates me 100% if he turns out mafia. He is going down kicking and screaming, something we have not seen a townie do yet, especially since he is a claimed role that is not a necessity for us to preserve.
Perhaps not all games have cops, but really the game that Cyber is making to prove he knows he is doing and you know he cross checked with Tom to make sure it was balanced is not going to have a cop?

As far as the pikachu thing, he HAS to be in the game, it involves Ash and things related to him. He is also like the fucking logo for the damn game, you think of pokemon, you think of Pikachu. Not only can't pikachu be evil, but if I was lying about it that would be one hell of a fucking gamble since pikachu is so synonymous with the game.
I have not lied blackmage, your assertion that I am and your continued effort to bring me down further condemns you.

You fought the law, and the law won.

[Blackmage]

Sigh. Lies, Lies, and more Lies.

First, no townie hasn't gone down without kicking and screaming? Do you remember wcs? I fought so hard, I got Nem lynched. Hey look, not only do I prove you wrong, I prove you wrong, with someone I did. I wonder if I'd do it again?

Second, some of us have been making an effort. I, for example, have been calling you on your lies this entire time. I was trying to get information from Mass and Scrib. I have been making an effort. Yet, for some reason, you keep shifting the blame back on me.

Third, I'm just going to ignore any WIFOM you bring up that I've already mentioned.

Also, what's your definition of a lie, if you haven't done it yet? Given it's you've done everything on this list, I'm quite curious:

lie1 [lahy] Show IPA . noun, verb, lied, ly·ing.
noun
1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood. Synonyms: prevarication, falsification. Antonyms: truth.
2. something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.
3. an inaccurate or false statement; a falsehood.
4. the charge or accusation of telling a lie: He flung the lie back at his accusers.
verb (used without object)
5. to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive. Synonyms: prevaricate, fib.
6. to express what is false; convey a false impression.
(Source: Dictionary.com)

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*remove it's

[What]

No you were only trying to get info from Scrib, and dismissed mass. Then when I called you on that you hemmed and hawed then finally turned against Mass for unclear reasons, then waffled again and voted for me.
And no townie has gone down kicking and screaming, you got Nem lynched, did he go down kicking and screaming? No because he knew his death would show how stupid you all were being. If you really are town, then you should be resigned to having your death give us information since your role is not essential to our victory.

And the guy making the effort to make me look bad is obviously not gonna be looking too good. If I felt in any way that my death would benefit the town by proving I am the cop, I would vote for myself, but the role is too valuable at this point in the game. And when I turn up cop, that condemns you 100% BM, which I am sure you are resigned to if you are mafia since then at least you would have gotten the cop out of the way.

Everybody has got to go, They're waiting for you down below, Your coming home.

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PS its not a lie when you go "I disagree!"

[Blackmage]

Oh, and here's examples

#1: Claiming all games need cops after playing in a game that could have had no cops. Claiming no one had fought to survive like this after playing in a game with me where I did.
#2: He has displayed poor judgement and will likely kill a townie based on his faulty reasoning. Given you have still yet to give any proof on this one, that would make this one deliberate.
#3: Claiming I defended Mass. Possibly not on purpose, I have my doubts, but still, inaccurate.
#4: Saying that the fact that you said it first made my claim invalid
#5 See above
#6 See #2

Ok, When did I ever dismiss Mass? Please, find that post. You still haven't.

I kicked and screamed when I was going to be lynched, switched the vote to be aimed at Nem. He DID fight. You, my good sir, are still being a liar and a fool. Roman game, that you modded, Chikun fought the whole way down. Do you still want to continue down this lie too?

If I thought my death would in any way benefit the town, I too would go for it. However, I have no reason to think so. You have only been continuing to use the same lies to try to prove me guilty. Why would my trying to prove you guilty make me look bad, but you doing the same to me, not?

If you turning up Cop condemns me, so be it. We'd still have the liar out of the game.

And because I'm feeling petty, *You're coming home.

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I'm not talking about things I disagree with, I'm talking about blatant lies. You're correct there.

[What]

I'm going out for the bit but here is this stuff again I have laid out many reasons why Blackmage is a valid choice for today.
A: His death gives me valuable info.
B: His claimed role is not integral to the Town's success even if he is telling the truth.
C: His constant instance that I am not a cop
D: His claim that Pikachu isn't in the game, when even if no one thinks I am a cop, needs to know that he must be in this game and can't be evil, so his instance that this is an issue for me reveals poor judgement on his side at best.
E: A lynch of someone else, if it does not hit mafia leaves me with far less information for going into tonight.
F: No one has more info in this game than I do right now on the Town's side, this information can only be added to the longer I live, if I die the Town loses a tremendous asset.
G: This entire day has boiled down to me vs Blackmage, for better or for worse and I take my share of the blame for that, but for that reason all of the information I have is based off of this coming to its logical conclusion, the way people have acted, what they have said, all means nothing if we jump ship to someone else now.
H: The next day, no matter what I tell who I have looked at and will far more than likely be able to outline who at least 1 mafia member is, but this is based on me getting the info I need from BM's Lynch


Today, today live like a warrior, let yesterday burn and throw it in the fire.

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And BM, its not lying if we draw different conclusions from the same data set. Also, of course you are going to want to paint me a liar if you are against the town, but I have said my piece.

[Blackmage]

A: You have given no reason for us to believe that. Vague claims are not proof.
B: But we don't know if there are any less useful roles. This role is also less useful in general because of your play. It could have been very useful in getting us a free night. I do agree, because of a play by the one trying to damn me, I'm no longer very useful. Do you realize what a self-fufulling prophecy is?
C: WIFOM
D: WIFOM
E: See A
F: This is largely your fault. You don't want the rest of us seeking out information. You won't add any information. However, you "freely" gave out your role without it being asked for. Information from you is a mixed bag, at best. Also, we don't know what half the players do. This is an unfounded, but possibly correct, claim.
G: You mean me constantly defending myself, and you constantly lying?
H: See A

You're right. It's not lying if we draw conclusions from a the same data set. However, you're ignoring the data set, not drawing from it. In at least two games the games, townies have fought back. I should know, I was one of them. This is a fact. In one game, we could have not had a cop. This is a fact. Would you like me to go on? Cherry picking isn't looking at the entire data set.

And I'd want to show you as the liar you are, without regard to my alignment. Following a liar is a dangerous path.

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As an addition, I'm actually somewhat useful. I'm a free night, the equivalent of a roleblocker hitting the correct target. Something a Roleblocker will have a problem with, because What won't share his theories, I might add.

[brett friggin favre]

Zzz...both of your stories are bullshit, youre both spinning your wheels, but one of you has been the bigger cunt. Such a massive cunt, you make nem look like Chef.

unvote
vote: what

I said a flip, flop, a flippy to da flop.

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Zzz...plus, might I add, an outed cop is useless. Even if protected, you'll likely be roleblocked.

[Blackmage]

As an aside, What, why do you think there are no Mafia RBers? If there are, your role won't be any help anyway.