2013, A Space Mafia

[brett friggin favre]

who doesn't like a jester?

---------- Post added at 10:21 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:16 AM ----------

I can see what your saying....
but don't all criminals want to divert attention from themselves?

which is why i said asking for faith in a mafia game is usually a bad move...but if you follow my logic i think you'll see that it's our only shot because we simply don't have time to kill for info.

mass confirmed as well as cyber that there's an arson. so we know there's an arson. logically it can't be a mafia arson. only way we'd be working together and one of us is mafia is if we're both mafia and cyber got doused. if that's the case then when the arson burns cyber, if he's mafia then so am i. that's 2 mafia down, the 3rd would be easy to find by that point, game over town wins, and that involves no lynching of either of us tonight.

other case, cyber and i are telling the truth, there's no time to fuck around and no room to lynch other town members because we have no truly solid leads on mafia and 2 killers, mafia and arson. in either scenario, lynching me is a bad call and the best and only move the rest of you can make is to have faith in these claims...scummy as that sounds. personally i have little to lose if i'm honest, but i'm told my words are my weapon so i figure i gotta try to use them as best as i can.

---------- Post added at 12:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:30 PM ----------

also a smart arson goes after me now, or masskid. if we're all together, town will win because of him.

[Chikun]

I think the largest threat to mafia is the arsonist, if it exists, and people revealing their investigative role this early bodes ill for town.

This night will give us a lot of information.

[کhд₫ðw]

agreed

[SCRIBBLE]

Vote shadow

[Chikun]

As far as mafia role are concerned I have the opinion that there's:

A godfather (obviously)
A Framer (Blackmage's role and alignment wasn't revealed the first night)
And either a target switcher or a role blocker (I'm leaning towards a target switcher)

In the interest of keeping things moving I'll make the last vote on whoever, provided it's not completely retarded, but I'd recommend for the various investigators to verify the likelihood that Brett, Cyber, and Masskid aren't bullshitting bullshitters.

[کhд₫ðw]

why you vote me?

[SCRIBBLE]

Why not?

[کhд₫ðw]

now who's the jester?

[brett friggin favre]

is every answer gonna be a question with you two?

[CYBER]

lynching me is dumb. when we have an arson and a mafia kill we're effectively losing 2 people per night unless we find the arson. mafia arson AND mafia kill? unlikely. as long as mafia lives, they're going to have a night kill. but if we can eliminate the arson, we save 2-3 people depending on when he ignites them. arson is our #1 priority so following a strategy which involves lynching an innocent person to confirm other innocents is a very bad idea. we simply don't have time considering the killers involved in the game. shadow's just trying to get a lynch and do enough to not get modkilled.......helloooo?

anywho i think my point here was that you gotta know cyber wouldn't have claimed what he did unless he had a deathwish or is telling the truth. the arson now knows he's confirmed town, and knows he successfully doused cyber. that makes cyber VERY vulnerable, and the friendly neighbor claim is extremely convenient to bring out fellow mafia if he was one. so what we have now is arson and mafia on the same page and that's lethal. lynching me, if there was either no mafia kill or no serial killer, would be a good idea. but in this case there needs to be some trust here. cyber will reach out to someone else tonight. announcing who it will be is dumb as fuck, it paints a target on them and if they die, it incriminates cyber because "oh he died thats why he didn't confirm me" is a perfectly convenient excuse. at that point, mafia wins because you'll waste a day lynching cyber to see he's confirmed town, there will be another mafia kill that night, a 3rd person doused/2 ignited, and you'll have almost no information.

our only chance is that you trust cyber's claim along with mine, and that cyber not announce who he'll reveal to. i realize how shady it is to ask for faith in a mafia game but ffs it's our only chance with this kill rate. we don't have time to dilly dally lynching people sheerly for info, we gotta find the threats and eliminate them ASAP.

THIS.

I honestly couldn't have said it better.

@Scribble,
even if shadow is a fucking jester, HE wins the mini game, but the game still goes... also, we're only 12 players... having 2 mafia AND an arsonist AND jester as a basic setup just seems very ANTI-town... no way he's jester.. and even if he was, we better lynch HIM over a townie.

Chikun,
I know that Brett being a Godfather or whatever is very likely to fuck with your head, but all I can say is that it's very unlikely he is...

Also, it just came to mind that the target switcher (busdriver) might take an opportunity to swap brett with himself if he's a mafia.
All i can say that if the busdriver is TOWN, don't be a moron, and stay away from swapping brett tonight because if you accidentally swap him with a mafia, unless you claimed tomorrow, u're effectively dooming town...
If you are a mafia busdriver... well fucking fuck me sideways because I literally have no idea what to do then if he swaps himself with brett... unless he gets roleblocked...

So roleblocker,
dont roleblock:mikey, me, aco, masskid as we are the ones that are bringing the info tonight.

Feel free to chose to block from Taz, scribble, brett, sin, and (who the fuck is still playing btw?) to roleblock.
This way, since one of u might be a roleblocker, u have 1/3 chances to hit a busdriver (saving brett and i from a possible setup if he's mafia or idiot) AND 1/3 chances to block the arsonist, and we'd know tomorrow if somoene got doused or burned, and therefore, we would know if you actually locked down the arsonist.

so roleblocker, 2/3 chance to block the right person if u block 1 of the the latter 4, not the people clearing info tonight. Be smart about it, the odds are in ur favor.


I'm going to work now and might miss the end of day...

@Firefighter, nay MASSKID!!!! ...
don't screw me over on this, protect me tonight so that the arson is forced to DOUSE someone else or fail at burning me. This way tomorrow,if the doused person is a power role, u can protect HIM instead of me, with the chance of finding out woh the arson is.