2013, A Space Mafia

[Nemesis]

1. DJ_MikeyRevile - TOWN COP
2. Wolfenstinger – HALLWAGNER
3. Cyber – MAFIA SPY
4. SCRIBBLE – MAFIA ROLEBLOCK
5. Acolyte_to_Jippity – TOWN GUNSMITH
6. Taz1stP – VT /W PA SYSTEM
7. Blackmage – VT
8. Brett Favre – VT
9. Masskid – ARSONIST
10. Chikun -TOWN DOCTOR
11. Sin – MAFIA JANITOR
12. Shadow – TOWN JAILKEEPER

Roles Selected.jpg

COP
You’re too God-damned old for this shit, and too God-damned tired. You’ve seen too many friends die for nothing as the big wigs and the brass did nothing to stymie the rise of corruption and organized crime. It made you sick, sick enough to leave everything behind.
As you look around the Stasis Pod at the faces that surround you your instincts start to kick in. Years on the force will do that to you. You’re retired, but you never really retire from the force, do you? The faces around you may look confused, but the eyes tell you something different. Not everyone here is what they claim to be. Good Morning Det. Rickard (Retired) you are a Retired Detective (Town Cop).
Ability: Each night you may investigate one of the colonists for information.
Win Condition: Survive and remove all scum from the ship.

DOCTOR
You’ve always enjoyed helping people. That fact alone is what got you through eight years of medical school. The $120,000 debt that fact helped rack up is part of the reason you left, the other part were the three men in a van who showed up three weeks after your loan should have been paid in full.
As you look around the Stasis Pod you immediately diagnose the eleven survivors, and solemnly observe the 18 others who unfortunately didn’t survive the harsh awakening. Although they may be the fortunate ones soon enough. Good Morning Dr. Earnhardt you are a Intern Physician (Town Doctor) .
Ability: Each night you may protect one other person from being shot or stabbed to death.
Win Condition: Survive and remove all scum from the ship.

GUNSMITH
“How can you shoot women and children?” They asked you. “Easy,” you replied, “you just don’t lead them as much.” That’s why you’re here, because who else will take an accused child-killing, disgraced marine? You know you’re innocent, that you’ve taken the fall for others, but that doesn’t put food on the table, and it doesn’t help you sleep. You’ve seen shit, and that’s why you’re here; time for a new start.
Except the one constant in this galaxy seems to be how utterly fucked one human being can be to another, and friend, you’re surrounded by 25,000 of them.
You’re the first to your feet out of the Cryochamber, 14 years and a Jump Trooper will condition you to the sleep shock, and as you look around you at the 11 others struggling to orient themselves. Regardless of who these people are, your tours in the shit can tell you much about them, whether they want you know or not isn’t your problem. Rise and Shine SSgt. Edric (Dishonorably Discharged), you are a Jump Trooper (Town Gunsmith).
Ability: Each night you may investigate one person to see if they have a gun. Their alignment will still be a mystery to you as, hell it’s the future, anyone could have a gun.
Win Condition: Survive and remove all scum from the ship.

JAILKEEPER
You have a very specific set of skills. One which some can find useful from time to time, however everything comes to an end. That’s why you’re here; running from what you are and what you did, but will you find an escape? Or carve the same red swath that’s followed you as long as you can remember?
As you look around the Stasis Pod at the 11 others you wonder if you’ll be forced to use your skills here too, but at least you hope some good can come of it. Welcome Mr. White, you are a [COLOR="#00FF00"]Interrogation Expert (Town Jail Keeper)(COLOR].
Ability: Every Night you may pay someone a “visit.” During this night that person will not be able to use their ability, nor will any ability succeed on them (roleblock + protect).
Win Condition: Survive and remove all scum from the ship.

VT
You came from humble beginnings but always dreamed of adventure, anything to get you off that damned farm. So here you are; 200 light years from every man, woman and cow you know.
As you look around the Stasis Pod at the 11 others you can’t help but feel you are woefully unprepared for what is to come. Hello Billy, you are a Colonist (Vanilla Town).
Ability: Your ability is your vote; you weapons are your words. Use them wisely.
Win condition: Survive and remove all scum from the ship.

VT + PA SYSTEM
You came from humble beginnings but always dreamed of adventure, anything to get you off that damned farm. So here you are; 200 light years from every man, woman and cow you know.
As you look around the Stasis Pod at the 11 others you can’t help but feel you are woefully unprepared for what is to come... wait, wait a minute, how the hell were you able to hack into the comms? That’s not right. You shouldn’t have access to that! Charles, you are a Colonist with access to the ship PA SYSTEM (Town Crier).
Ability: Your ability is your vote; you weapons are your words. Use them wisely.
However, due to your hacking abilities, you were able to gain access to the ship’s PA SYSTEM. You may use the PA system at night to say whatever you’d like throughout the ship. Use it wisely…or irresponsibly, I don’t care.
Use IBIS forum login name: PA SYSTEM
Use Password: password
Win conditions: Survive and remove all scum from the ship.

HALLWAGNER
You don’t get a cool opening like everyone else. Mostly because everyone fucking hates you. You’re fat and probably black. Get cancer [COLOR="#00FF00"]Hallwagner (Town Stupid Nigger)(COLOR].
Ability: None. Unless “Fat” is an ability…and it’s not.
Win conditions: Survive and remove all scum from the ship.

MAFIA ROLEBLOCKER
If anything can be said about you, it’s that you know your way around a cock. I don’t mean chickens either, throbbing man-cock. That’s all you. Those skills are what got you in with this group to begin with, now you belong to them. You do what you’re told, you get to eat, you don’t, well, let’s just say you’re not the first, but the only one here now.
As you look around the Stasis Pod you recognize your friends, the rest? Enemies. Or rather obstacles. They call you Candy, and you prefer the description Syndicate Escort (Mafia Roleblocker) over more…colourful expressions.
Ability: Each night you may pay someone a “Visit”. They’ll be too encompassed in your “talents” they won’t be able to use any active abilities they may have. ALSO come to a consensus with your companions of one person to kill each night. You may chat with your companions at NIGHT ONLY. The Wet Work Expert performs the kill.
Win Conditions: Ensure there is no one left to oppose the Syndicate.
Your companions are:
Syndicate Wet Work Expert (Mafia Janitor)
Syndicate Emissary (Mafia Spy)

MAFIA JANITOR
You’ve been in “the business” for a while now. While the act itself turns your stomach, the clean-up doesn’t bother you anymore. Women, children, it doesn’t matter anymore, just another target, just another job, you even get weekends off, most of the time.
As you look around the Stasis Pod you recognize your friends, the rest? Enemies. Or rather obstacles. They call you Mr. Red, and you are a Syndicate Wet Work Expert (Mafia Janitor)
Ability: Disguise the role of one person killed each night THIS ABILITY CAN ONLY BE USED 2 TIMES and you will not learn the role of the victim. ALSO come to a consensus with your companions of one person to kill each night. You may chat with your companions at NIGHT ONLY. You perform the kill.
Win Conditions: Ensure there is no one left to oppose the Syndicate.
Your companions are:
Syndicate Escort (Mafia Roleblocker)
Syndicate Emissary (Mafia Spy)

MAFIA SPY
As it says in your CIA file: You’re one [redacted] with a [redacted] and [redacted] for a while now. While the [redacted] most of the time. Your favorite colour is [redacted]
As you look around the Stasis Pod you recognize your friends, the rest? Enemies. Or rather obstacles. They call you Mr. Black, and you are a Syndicate Emissary (Mafia Spy)
Ability: Each night you may have the mods send any player a msg. ALSO come to a consensus with your companions of one person to kill each night. You may chat with your companions at NIGHT ONLY. The Wet Work Expert performs the kill.
Win Conditions: Ensure there is no one left to oppose the Syndicate.
Your companions are:
Syndicate Escort (Mafia Roleblocker)
Syndicate Wet Work Expert (Mafia Janitor)

ARSONIST
Do you know what happens to a shuttle as it re-enters the atmosphere? The heat shield deflects temperatures over 2300°F. Do you know what happens to the man inside the shuttle when the shield fails? They say death by fire is the purest of deaths. Unfortunately for them, you didn’t die.
As you look around the Stasis Pod at the 11 others you see only one thing: sinners. Sinners that need to be cleansed. Cleansed by fire to be sure. Rise, rise and smell the ashes, you are, or were, a Cosmonaut (Arsonist).

Ability: Each night you may douse another in flammable liquid. Or you may choose to ignite all those you doused previously. You can only pick one action a night. For example, Night 1 you douse player A. Night 2 you ignite, player A dies. OR Night 1 you douse player A, night 2 you douse player B, Night 3 you use ignite, Players A and B die.
Win Conditions: Cleanse by fire all other survivors.

[Masskid]

Congrats mafia xD

[Wolfenstinger]

So... outta curiosity - had i lived... what would've possibly happened to me?

[brett friggin favre]

so cyber can confirm himself as town to a player each night. when he's mafia.

he was listed as Confirmed Innocent Friendly Neighbor. CONFIRMED. a MOD confirms innocent to me, with no use of my own powers, i FUCKING ASSUME THAT MEANS HE'S INNOCENT.

wtf is that shit?

[BladeTwinSwords]

Spy is a role used on Epic Mafia.

Too bad NO ONE had any clue that was used.

[brett friggin favre]

Spy is a role used on Epic Mafia.

Too bad NO ONE had any clue that was used.

i looked up every mafia role i could find. ya know, without looking on random ass forums and shit, specifically looking for a mafia role who could confirm himself to town as innocent. couldn't find anything.

that's fucking bullshit, idc where the fuck you get it from. he assumes NO FUCKING RISK (no PGO, no bomb, no chance of revealing himself to mafia since he's fucking mafia), and can CONFIRM HIMSELF INNOCENT TO ANYONE?!?!? how in the world would anyone think that is a remotely good idea in this setup? please, i wish to understand how people think on whatever planet you came from, it's fucking fascinating in the worst way possible.

[Nemesis]

THREE STARS:
3.Acolyte
2.Masskid
1.Cyber

THREE BUMS:
3. Mikey
2. Wolf
1. Shadow

WHY THE TOWN LOST:

1. You lynched Wolf first day. Townies are now 0-6 on random first day lynches, I'm wondering how long it will take for people to smarten up. Hallwagner was a hated townie, but unknown to everyone, including Wolf, he would slowly get better each day until he because useful for the town. It was a role that would require a player who could talk themselves out of a sticky situation, unfortunately it was randomed to Wolf, so that got thrown out the window quickly. If he survived the first day, wolf would have gotten a vest. If he survived the second day he would have gotten a vest he could have given to a friend. Third day would have allowed him an investigation. Fourth day would have given him a vigilante kill. Finally, if Wolf survived the fifth day, he would have taken Cyber's mother out for a night of Mexican food and German sex, which means he would have been immune to any and all actions taken against him. Very powerful, if he could have talked himself out of trouble.

2. Shadow was useless and unfortunately for everyone, got a very important role to the game. Jailkeeper would have roleblocked and protected a target at night. He was absent from the game and on par with Taz for intelligence.

3. Mikey as the Cop. Three of the town's top roles were held by the three bottom players. Everyone is starting to pick up on the fact that Mikey has no idea what he's doing and are starting to ignore everything he says. When he's the cop, that doesn't work out well for anyone.

4. Too many sheep. People just went along with whatever Cyber said. He confirms himself night one, and Acolyte was in the perfect spot to discredit him, as he knew he had a gun and therefore could not be a friendly neighbor. However it was just kind of accepted that, "oh well. I must be wrong." There was far too much of that this game. From now on people need to question each other more.

5. I felt Masskid was playing the role very well. He doused Cyber night one and took no action night two so he could claim he was doused. If the town haden't been utterly steamrolled Cyber was done for night three.




I would like to thank my co-mod Blade for all his help throughout this game and condradulate him on a job well done. Blade, thank you.

I would also like to thank all the players and I hope you had a fun game and will continue to play Mafia here at IBIS.

Special shout-out to Rape, who used his shiny mod-powers to clean up some filth, thanks man.

I also hope there were some people who didn't play who step up in future games. we always welcome new faces and I hope you liked what you saw. I'm always available to help new players and if anyone has questions about anything please msg me.

---------- Post added at 12:23 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:19 AM ----------

i looked up every mafia role i could find. ya know, without looking on random ass forums and shit, specifically looking for a mafia role who could confirm himself to town as innocent. couldn't find anything.

that's fucking bullshit, idc where the fuck you get it from. he assumes NO FUCKING RISK (no PGO, no bomb, no chance of revealing himself to mafia since he's fucking mafia), and can CONFIRM HIMSELF INNOCENT TO ANYONE?!?!? how in the world would anyone think that is a remotely good idea in this setup? please, i wish to understand how people think on whatever planet you came from, it's fucking fascinating in the worst way possible.

Brett, we didn't confirm him of anything, the msg you were given was:

A note was found on your floor it reads:

"Whatever Cyber wants to say."

By no means are these my words. He could have said he was the Queen of England. Epic mafia is played by other people on this forum, the problem? they happened to be on the mafia side with Cyber, so they didn't call him out.

You were all too trusting of the msg, but after the game started there wasn't a whole lot I could do as I couldn't assist you or give you random hints.

[brett friggin favre]

Brett, we didn't confirm him of anything, the msg you were given was:

A note was found on your floor it reads:

"Whatever Cyber wants to say."

By no means are these my words. He could have said he was the Queen of England. Epic mafia is played by other people on this forum, the problem? they happened to be on the mafia side with Cyber, so they didn't call him out.

You were all too trusting of the msg, but after the game started there wasn't a whole lot I could do as I couldn't assist you or give you random hints.

there need to be limitations with a role like that, especially with no PGO/bomb. especially early in the game, people are looking for any info they can find. a confirmed townie is gold. like i said i looked for any role that would allow him to do that without actually being town, and turned up nothing. some crazy variation used once or twice and thrown into a setup where he has absolutely 0 risk is beyond boneheaded, idc what kind of justification you try to use. that role has no checks aside from being paranoid and not trusting any info you get from anyone, which makes the game a pointless exercise in waiting until you're slaughtered.

that role had no place in this setup, nor does it have any place in a community this inexperienced. period.

a check such as not being able to fakeclaim in the messages would've been more suitable.

[Nemesis]

there need to be limitations with a role like that, especially with no PGO/bomb. especially early in the game, people are looking for any info they can find. a confirmed townie is gold. like i said i looked for any role that would allow him to do that without actually being town, and turned up nothing. some crazy variation used once or twice and thrown into a setup where he has absolutely 0 risk is beyond boneheaded, idc what kind of justification you try to use. that role has no checks aside from being paranoid and not trusting any info you get from anyone, which makes the game a pointless exercise in waiting until you're slaughtered.

that role had no place in this setup, nor does it have any place in a community this inexperienced. period.

I understand your frustration; you were easily duped. But would you have been as trusting if there wasn't a previous game with such a role? I think not. This set up was created before that, and I said at the beginning that everyone should play this game without using what happened in others as a guide. There were also many clues and actions that would have thwarted Cyber, here they are:

1. Night one Aco finds out Cyber has a gun, instead of coming out that he's lying, he goes along with it.
2. Mikey, instead of doing something useful, goes on and on about how Blackmage is still alive...for some reason...I have no idea why...how much more clear can you get than "dead"?
3. Cyber was VERY adamant that he COULD NOT be investigated AT ALL. Was that not a huge red flag for anyone? I thought for sure he was fucked after he said that AND Aco investigated him.
4. Spy is used very often on Epic Mafia. most mafias come with one. Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it's some random bullshit concept.
5. You chose to trust a piece of paper you found on the floor.

[brett friggin favre]

yes, i trust a piece of paper that comes on the floor. a friendly neighbor can confirm himself to town in any way the mod sees fit. i figured that made sense. as for spy? http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Traitor aka spy (mikeburnfire's definition is the same), has nothing to do with the role you provided. we've been using mafiascum roles for everything to this point......i see spy on there, i figure that's what a spy is, not some radically different and stupid OP role.

allow me to add, nem, that it seems to me the attitude you take to this game is "if it's technically legal, i can do it." in the first game, you asked tom for info that he shouldn't have given you. it was on him for giving it to you, but still you asked when there's no way he should ever tell you, and therefore no reason you should never ask. now you throw this role in with no checks, no risks, no balances, simply because it exists, and your excuse is that we shouldn't trust it? so we can't trust that, and if we can't trust that then we can't trust anything someone says, until after they're dead and their alignment/role is confirmed OH WAIT MAFIA HAD A JANITOR TOO. WHOOPS. so that leaves us with NO WAY TO GATHER INFO other than our own powers...and as a VT, i'm absolutely 100% worthless. actually with cyber's power, i'm a liability to town. so that makes 3 mafia, 1 arson, 3 vt all detrimental to town from the get-go, that's a majority. game fucking over right on the setup.

i will agree that town was pretty fucking dumb this game but it's also so blatantly mafia-stacked, that hardly mattered.