Again with the "Unwritten" Rules

[Steamer]

Only one I can really think of is the door on Sorrento that a lot of admins talk about it. Still hard to tell who really shuts it. Then again, since parachutes are off what is the point of even shutting the door.

To give the faster people a second chance when the slow ones screw them up. This map had never been a problem, or many with fast or secret spots. You're not fast enough? Oh damn well. Get better. Stop being butthurt. People.

[B1ackOut]

3. There is no actual rule where it says humans HAVE to shoot the butterfly. I know, every humans bullet hitting the butterfly is needed, trust me I know. But because a human shooting zombie cage is not considered sabotage in completing the map, the humans just do not know better.
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Would that fall under not doing the objective? If every bullet is need then obviously that is the objective for the humans, not some silly side quest some people can do. You are dicking around uselessly shooting zombies that apparently regenerate when you should be trying to actually finish the map. Although actually slaying them would almost have the same effect as letting them shoot the trapped zombies, the objective is still not being completed but you get the bonus of not having the retard getting tagged.

[Meltdown]

Would that fall under not doing the objective? If every bullet is need then obviously that is the objective for the humans, not some silly side quest some people can do. You are dicking around uselessly shooting zombies that apparently regenerate when you should be trying to actually finish the map. Although actually slaying them would almost have the same effect as letting them shoot the trapped zombies, the objective is still not being completed but you get the bonus of not having the retard getting tagged.

I think this will get out of control fast, knowing how short tempered some people can be. leave it as it is, I don't see any reason why we should enforce this, the less rules the better, if they get tagged u can always still freeze them or slay but it hardly happens anymore that someone is stupid enough to even get close.

[phil.™]

Would that fall under not doing the objective? If every bullet is need then obviously that is the objective for the humans, not some silly side quest some people can do. You are dicking around uselessly shooting zombies that apparently regenerate when you should be trying to actually finish the map. Although actually slaying them would almost have the same effect as letting them shoot the trapped zombies, the objective is still not being completed but you get the bonus of not having the retard getting tagged.

I wouldn't say he's not following the objective, but rather not knowing what the objective is or how to complete it. If a human is in a random ZE map and does not know where to go, wandering around, does he get slayed for not doing his objective? No, other humans help him. Just the same in this case. If the human does not know what to do (in this map shoot the butterfly versus the zombie cage) you help that human learn what to do. If it fails, you type, talk in mic, or friend request them and assist them what to do.

It's just like defending, you need team work to win.

[Steamer]

You people ate trying to make shit way to complicated. Stopping people from dicking around on ZE is like trying to remove stink from shit. Secret and side areas are there for a reason. Some are fun and an accomplishment. Sine actually help the team. Now just sounds like removing fun and making things to overly controlled. Ruins the fun (what gaming is about) and then you lose people. Next its bitched that population is low. Think about it...

[acolyte_to_jippity]

You people ate trying to make shit way to complicated. Stopping people from dicking around on ZE is like trying to remove stink from shit. Secret and side areas are there for a reason. Some are fun and an accomplishment. Sine actually help the team. Now just sounds like removing fun and making things to overly controlled. Ruins the fun (what gaming is about) and then you lose people. Next its bitched that population is low. Think about it...

its almost like ZE sucks for teamwork...

[Steamer]

Always kind of did. Use to make it work with a group of less. People just suck and give up prematurely. Next they cry that it's "hard". Get a few good people and try... screw what others are doing... stop crying.

[Milkster]

On Sorrento it is hard to monitor the usage of the lever by players. I find myself having to jump into spectator mode to actually catch whoever is closing it on team-mates. Strangely enough, even when people see you in Spec they still close the door on Team-mates.

[Steamer]

They are allowed to close the door before others get in. They were fast enough to do so to stay safer away from the slows to get a second wind. If they aren't ppurposely killing teammates (accidents happen), stop with the made up shit. They are ALLOWED to close the door before everyone gets there. Too slow, didn't make it, too damn bad. This map and others have been so for years, get better, Stop dumbing down the game for idiots with made up bs, and trying to get it in rules.

[phil.™]

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In ze_crashbandicoot_v1fix, if a human shoots at a Nitro or TNT box, this IS NOT against the rules. Please tell me where it says "humans cannot shoot the tnt box earlier". Admin's who slay humans for shooting the Nitro/TNT box too early are to be reported because i'm sick of this unwritten rule just because humans cannot cooperate correctly to win. BUT, if a human shoots the Nitro/TNT box and it kills a human, then that is considered team killing, which is a slay/kick/ban offense.

Also, admins have been banning many people for "team killing" and i've been reviewing the demo's, shooting the tnt/nitro box is not considered team killing if your fellow teammates do not die. Is it a douche bag move to shoot it early? Yes. Is it illegal to? No. Please do not enforce this rule.


I also want to bring up the "Ignoring admin rule". When an admin says not to do something, but it is not an actual rule, admins cannot slay or ban because of this. Example, if an admin says "do not shoot the nitro/TNT boxes" and someone shoots it, they cannot be banned for "Ignoring admin". That's like an admin saying "defend here with us or you'll be banned for ignoring an admin". Again, is it a douche bag move? Yes, of course. But that's not considered ignoring admin. In ZM, if someone is purposefully breaking rules and admin says stop doing that, and they continue, then THAT is called "Ignoring admin". - But banning for reason "ignoring admin" from a unwritten rule, a non-existent rule, that's admin abuse.