Again with the "Unwritten" Rules

[Evil]

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In ze_crashbandicoot_v1fix, if a human shoots at a Nitro or TNT box, this IS NOT against the rules. Please tell me where it says "humans cannot shoot the tnt box earlier". Admin's who slay humans for shooting the Nitro/TNT box too early are to be reported because i'm sick of this unwritten rule just because humans cannot cooperate correctly to win. BUT, if a human shoots the Nitro/TNT box and it kills a human, then that is considered team killing, which is a slay/kick/ban offense.

Also, admins have been banning many people for "team killing" and i've been reviewing the demo's, shooting the tnt/nitro box is not considered team killing if your fellow teammates do not die. Is it a douche bag move to shoot it early? Yes. Is it illegal to? No. Please do not enforce this rule.


I also want to bring up the "Ignoring admin rule". When an admin says not to do something, but it is not an actual rule, admins cannot slay or ban because of this. Example, if an admin says "do not shoot the nitro/TNT boxes" and someone shoots it, they cannot be banned for "Ignoring admin". That's like an admin saying "defend here with us or you'll be banned for ignoring an admin". Again, is it a douche bag move? Yes, of course. But that's not considered ignoring admin. In ZM, if someone is purposefully breaking rules and admin says stop doing that, and they continue, then THAT is called "Ignoring admin". - But banning for reason "ignoring admin" from a unwritten rule, a non-existent rule, that's admin abuse.

I'm guilty of doing such.

[Meltdown]

I suggest people take a hour and start reading the rules, better take some time to review the stuff then be sorry later on.

[supermanez]

can u explain me why on pf server or gfl server or (hoe) server they beat map every day most of the time so please all admin go read on their forum about the rule and go read about all kick slay those are doing a fk good job cuz they have max 3 troll or (some new noob player ) i can barely accept 3 troll on on 43 player but right now on 43 it will be 25 troller who dont do objectif or close door too fast or nade or barely doing nothing to my mind doing nothing is like ur not playing so u wwaste a spot for any good player

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srry to say that but we got all the same rule but none do something and it go more wrong every day cuz new player seee those troller and doing the same thing 4. The objective must be respected and completed. camping is not allowed.
console say defend and they are 6 of 18 shooting while 12 looking at door serioustly they not respecting rule they dont respect the objectiive

[phil.™]

Holy shit, do you not know how to use punctuation marks, or know what the little red squiggly lines are under all your missed spelled words?
Does this look like GFL or hoe or pf? No. This is IBIS. We have our own set of rules. Either you help bring up constructive suggestions to changing/re-wording the rules, or you shut and abide by the rules.
Might i remind you, those severs you speak of have dedicated 24/7 ZE server; ours is ZM/ZE shared. If they are 24/7 ze, i wouldn't except less for them to have a higher percentage in human wins.

[supermanez]

all i say we doing wrong and people dont play hard map and hate them cuz they keepp troling and we always fail BUT WHY SO MANY SERVER CAN DO IT !!!!!!!!!!

[brett friggin favre]

zm is about winning, it's fuckin serious business, not some fuckin game...c'mon phil, you of all people should know this.

[phil.™]

Simple, no team work. If there are 20 humans at a hold point, and 12 are defending and the rest 8 are just waiting, do you want admin's to start abusing by slapping, kicking, banning? No, we help them what to do. Just because a player is new and does not know what to do, does not get the full grasp of defending, we do not slap/slay/kick or ban here.

zm is about winning, it's fuckin serious business, not some fuckin game...c'mon phil, you of all people should know this.

You're right, i've done fucked up. This IS RL. FUCK. Okay, time to play ball.

[supermanez]

not all at the same time but being to do it slowly u cant change people in 1 day but with time yes

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i dont care about wining or losing when people doing great job to defend

[phil.™]

not all at the same time but being to do it slowly u cant change people in 1 day but with time yes

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i dont care about wining or losing when people doing great job to defend

don't worry, i wish i could slap some of these kids around too, but we just don't operate like that. In time, IBIS ZE will be knocking out ze maps left and right. We just need the right leadership

And this ZE night this saturday is a step forward to that. It's going to be only ZE, we will fail a lot, but we're gonna learn more. It'll be fun

[jeb the hick]

I think most of the problem you describe is probably attributed to non-english speakers. Ping requirements are pretty lax on the ZM server so we get people from all over. I do rage pretty hard when people won't listen or read the objectives, but being a zombie and feasting on a buffet of noobs lined up against a door after you hop a barricade makes up for it.