Suicide needs Punishment

[garey40]

umm, its already in the rules that suiciding to avoid being tagges is not allowed. i generally slay at the start of the next round, or freeze them for 30 seconds at the beginning of the round.

Zteleing & Console –This only pertains to humans
Attempting to flee from a zombie.
Disconnecting then rejoining to avoid getting tagged
Using the "Change teams" command to avoid getting tagged
Joining spectator to avoid getting tagged

Please show us jumping off a 20ft building or into deadly water?

[Mr.Dangerous]

What makes u think people care about their "points"?
I do, but I doubt the others care about their points.

[Meltdown]

What makes u think people care about their "points"?
I do, but I doubt the others care about their points.

I can't decide if you are trolling or really ignorant.

[garey40]

What makes u think people care about their "points"?
I do, but I doubt the others care about their points.

Iv just lost 25% of my brain cells reading this.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

How do you deduce that someone intentionally jumped to their death or made a fail jump? I for one do not trust someone who can hardly spell to decide my fate in that manner. Example, i was playing serrento last night... i died from the water more times then being tagged by a zombie based simply off the fact that i missed my jumps. Stop trying to micro-manage the ZM server. It will not make it better and it only makes you look like a downie. Committing suicide via console is already against the rules and that should be enough. Being that i find it almost 100% impossible to be 100% certain someone jumped to their death to avoid being tagged with out a signed confession. You cannot implement this as a rule.

This sounds really good because it would make some ze maps.work out.. but what if them knowing that theres no way of to save there rank leads them to just sit in spec and we won't have help at all...

You see... you new admins have a very serious problem with your ability to fucking read. I swear to god.

Other - Rules that have no particular grouping but needed

First Zombie(s) must tag someone or make a valid attempt
Spectating or AFK players must, if over 5 minutes, must join the game or leave the server
During escape maps, humans must leave the spawn area and complete the map objective. Humans that stay in spawn with the intent on killing the first zombie is prohibited.
Zombies and Humans can not coexist. Zombies must tag or !ztele no matter the circumstances
A player may not, by any means, bypass the tagging process to continually play as a zombie
Any form of rank manipulation will not be tolerated

What do you see in this section of the rules? Your leaders here at IBIS are not morons... im sure their is a written rule to cover just about any exploit you can think of.

If you still dont know how to read rules ill type it for you. Players can not sit in spectate for more then 5 min without leaving the server or joining the game. This means that players who sit in spectate for an entire map... should be delt with if you are an admin.

[anex]

This thread is not about making suicide illegal. It is and will always be legal. This thread is to discuss losing rank points upon suicide.

[Meltdown]

This thread is not about making suicide illegal. It is and will always be legal. This thread is to discuss losing rank points upon suicide.

This

It will always happen on accident that people die, you can hardly punish that. the same when people die on accident when they forgot to !ztele. it's a risk you take by playing the map, no chicken way out anymore.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

This thread is not about making suicide illegal. It is and will always be legal. This thread is to discuss losing rank points upon suicide.

I understand but to reduce rank points for such a thing under the assumption that players are doing it on purpose is still a form of punishment. What is being proposed here is that everyone who meets an un timely death at the fate of long falls or death water will be subjected to a ridiculous point loss. Id like to think that more people simply miss jump or fail jump. Another example is space station. I watched as the secret door to the Xwing opened.... 60% of the humans had no idea about the exploding floor. They all died as a "form of suicide." Did they die on purpose? No. Would they all lose a ridiculous amount of points for not knowing? Under this proposal, yes. In never ending attempts to keep the game fair, i do not see this as a productive change.

If the power here can not be wavered by what i say. Giving - points to players who die via suicide is not the answer. Simply make a change that only allows team win points to those who are alive. Players shouldn't LOSE points from the pool they have already earned because of simple mistakes like missing a jump ect.

[Meltdown]

I understand but to reduce rank points for such a thing under the assumption that players are doing it on purpose is still a form of punishment. What is being proposed here is that everyone who meets an un timely death at the fate of long falls or death water will be subjected to a ridiculous point loss. Id like to think that more people simply miss jump or fail jump. Another example is space station. I watched as the secret door to the Xwing opened.... 60% of the humans had no idea about the exploding floor. They all died as a "form of suicide." Did they die on purpose? No. Would they all lose a ridiculous amount of points for not knowing? Under this proposal, yes. In never ending attempts to keep the game fair, i do not see this as a productive change.

If the power here can not be wavered by what i say. Giving - points to players who die via suicide is not the answer. Simply make a change that only allows team win points to those who are alive. Players shouldn't LOSE points from the pool they have already earned because of simple mistakes like missing a jump ect.

So people who work hard to break a cade, where some zombies die, to simple see humans kill themselfs is also not fair. The rules apply to everyone meaning it will affect everyone, so it is in no way unfair, everyone accedantly fall sometimes, you lose points, get over it and try again. People who get angry over that simple shouldn't be playing.

How the system is now is unfair, those who play casual and those who are new are basicly being abused by those who know every cheap secret. Also the reason why some maps are over played is because of this, this outcome will balance allot of things. so it is a win win situation, the only group who would lose here is those who hug there rank and do everything in there power to deny people there kills.