Disconnecting to keep score.. (Read zm players)

[Jeimuzu]

Holy, I don't have a choice in the matter. I'll go somewhere and someone will follow me despite asking them to go away, others will break it to get in, resulting in me basically gaining a huge disadvantage.

And before you say something along the lines of demoing, I'd also like to add that even if you were to ban every single person that broke one of my barricades, there would still be more to come. I was just saying that I've only reconnected to the game when I've been given an unfair disadvantage because of another player.

[ZERO]

How about I just have the server ban players for a few min after they disconnect so they can not get back in....

[TheLittlestHobo]

After thinking about this topic for at least half of my day and thinking on where to stand in this, I have finally concluded that the best thing to prevent this problem is to remove the ranking system. In my experience, I have first thought the ranking system was such a cool idea. Once it was introduced to me, the thrill to reach for the top was exponentially increasing and the motivation to be a better player was something I looked forward to.

How wrong can I be.

I reminised the times when I actually had fun prior to my discovery of the ranking system. To be honest, I appreciated playing on every single map and I loved meeting friends in IBIS and making god-awful barricades with them. Now, I have a strong drive for obtaining tons of kills while minimizing the deaths through the dirtiest ways possible. I am not going to lie to you folks. I used to ztele away whenever a zombie broke into my cade with a group of other humans with me. Sometimes I would be chased around and I would run around the corner so it wouldn't see me and I would ztele. I would even ztele away first infront of their face and reconnect to prevent a death. This was around the peak of my motivation to reach the top, after I have been introduced to the ranking system.

The reason why I am telling you this because not only do I see myself as a dirty player, I am already seeing it happening to other people. I am talking about regulars who would ztele away, reconnect, then type rank shortly after. Those people I have witnessed were quite good players but should not have used dirty tricks.

Something that I regret doing now is to exclude myself from the rest of the population so I can build a good barricade for myself and myself only just to be selfish and take as many kills as possible. The worst part is when friends ask me where I'm going to which I don't respond because I know they will drag me down. And this is not how the game should be played. I don't like shafting my friends for personal gains, but with the ranking system, I choose to.

Lastly, my favourite map of all time used to be boat escape, simply because getting into the pods were well worth it. Now looking back, I really want to make it my favourite map, but getting zombie kills is hard to come by on escape maps, which is why I barely play them now; for the fear of my ranks being dropped.

I know doing something like removing the ranking system is going to be hard to do, but I strongly implore you remove it. In a wider perspective, you may get some pissed off players for removing it but it will settle eventually, but as a friend of the community and to preserve the existing friendship (perhaps more) of what we have now, I ask you to do what you think would be best, after reading our opinions on the topic.

To summarize my point once more: Remove the ranking system to preserve the good conduct of well deserved good players.

P.S. I thank anyone who have read my excessively long message in its entirety. I just have to let it out before my interest in this server begins to fade.

P.S.S. I just want to inform everyone that I have stopped with the ztele and reconnecting now, which was why I posted this.

[Jeimuzu]

I don't like the banning for a few minutes idea if they reconnect or disconnect. It would kind of be pointless. For example, people have to rejoin the server to get new sprays to show.

As for what Hobo has said, I agree with him 100%.

[ZERO]

I should also add that, being turned into a zombie does not hurt your score.... your rank is impacted more by getting killed as a zombie... When you turn other players into a zombie you get points.... I would except that a good player can tag two humans for every 1 zombie they could kill. Note how the balancing is set to just about that.... I would also add that the ranks are not KDR based, also you get points when your team wins.

As for people typing in rank all the time, what fools! It only updates every 60min rofl! It is not real time

I think part of the problem is that people do not understand how it is ranking....


Also the ranks have been there since the server was made, the only thing I have changed is the ability to check from ingame and made it so you get more points when you make a kill with something other than the para, to encourage people to try different guns.

If you all really wanted to get competitive why not aim for getting the most awards. Awards are given out weekly to the best players in different areas.


Another idea I just had, I think this will fix the problem right up lol. The issue here is that players do not feel that it is rewarding enough to be a zombie. Therefore I shall adjust the rankings to better reward zombies without punishing humans, how you may ask. Well bonus points can be used to increase what one player gains without increasing the damage done to the humans score. Here is what I can do:
1) I can make it so + and - bonus points are given if your team wins

a) If the humans win every human player gets 2 bonus points and every zombie loses 2

b) If the zombies win every zombie gets 3 points and every human loses 1

2) If players turn a human into a zombie they gain a bonus point.

a) By giving players a bonus point just for tagging another player they can increase there score more that they would otherwise be able to without increasing the negitive impact on the other players score

[Envy]

If you are THAT worried about being a great player and having a good rank... shouldn't you just play pub?

I'm a GG player, I like my rank, BUT I dont get super upset and play like an ass to better it. thats just stupid.

My 2cents.

[Jeimuzu]

I'm not worried about being a noticed great player, or I wouldn't have suggested removing the ranking system. I'm already in first place with double the score of second. The point of this though is to keep players from worrying too much about rank and start actually enjoying the server instead of getting all annoyed when stupid stuff happens because of a newer player or a barricade breaker. Sometimes its fun to just run around the map with a couple friends not knowing what might happen, being in a total scenario of discomfort and unknowingly about to be..*cough* Anyway, with rank, people just started to have less fun.

And Zero, I don't really see much wrong with the ranking system. Though if you wanted to keep people from zteleing (or whatever else to avoid being tagged) then I would have to agree that making it so that you don't lose score when dying by a zombie would be a good idea. As for the bonus points, not such a great idea when it impacts score.

[inthebutt]

hahaha envy this is about the ZM server lol not the GG server. you guys are on a whole different planet than we are. We aren't talking about getting rid of the rank on the GG server.

okay so this is my 2 cents on this whole deal. I do agree with anex that disconnecting and reconnecting to avoid being tag is against the rules. like I tell everyone who plays regularly on the ZM server I won't ban unless its absolutly needed, so far only 2 people have been banned by me. but when I ban I ban for the full 7 days. I rather keep you ingame and torture you there by freezing, blinding, drugging and slapping. banning someone doesn't really teach anyone a lesson. so you got banned they'll just find another server to play on until this ban is up.

as for removing the ranks I think zero should make it harder to rank up. I like how the factor of which weapon you use affects the amount of points you get. I think the idea of gaining points should really be harder to obtain. the awards are really what everyone should be playing for cause ranks can change but awards are always there. zombies should get more points than humans.

another point I've been really looking forward to changing is, WE NEED MORE WOMEN ON THE ZM SERVER!!!!!!!!!!!! seriously I like the usual bunch of guys I play with but its way to much of a sauseage-fest on here lol. the only girl that I actually know is a girl, is IMGONNAGETCHA. stop banning her and muting her she doesn't break any rules but when she stands up for them she gets punished. I'm gonna stick up for her cause she is the only girl as of now but as soon as more girls start coming on sorry IMGONNAGETCHA I gotta move on lol. I wonder if project-s got my message????

that is all time to finish this beer and go to bed.

[Koolayed]

i say just get rid of the ranking system its been another problem with other ppl and leave it on the web stats where less people make a big deal out of it of course ppl r gona be influenced to bind spectate or Ztele (me) [and yes wich ive got punishment for] but i do liek to add is add a few more classes to make the game intresting (might i add change infected stats a bit diffrently : P)

[Mallissin]

P.S.S. I just want to inform everyone that I have stopped with the ztele and reconnecting now, which was why I posted this.

Yah, now you just go Spec to avoid being tagged. Three times last night, one from me.

In addition to that, it's a little annoying when the whole skill system is pretty faulty in my opinion. As I requested before to have the skill system explained, I would really like to know how a score of 83/3 would decrease my overall skill to about 20 points....

I mean it's getting a little frustrating now.

It's actually pretty simple, it depends on who kills you and who you kill. You kill a guy with 600 points, you get 6. You die to a guy with 600 points and you have 1200, they get 12 from you (not the actual equation, just an example). Which means, even if you have a KD of 2+, if you die at the hands of newbies too much, you'll lose rank anyway.

This nudges people to attack others around their own rank and not pick on newbies.

So, take a peak at the stats page, memorize 10-15 names around your rank and make sure to attack those guys if you see them. Not only will you lose less points dying to them, you'll gain more points in the long run.