Prison Break Wars (Mafia)

[Blackmage]

We might be getting to the point where we just mass claim. we've had 2 power roles hard claim, and a few soft claims. Do we risk our doc's anonymity in order to go for the end game or not? Given we have a claim of two information gatherers, how much more do with think is out there? And who, if anyone, of the already claimed, do you think is lying?

I have no idea if Brett is telling the truth or not. He may have made an educated guess that he was the only one to visit Mikey. He might be a mafia Watcher and telling truth about the role. However, in a case of counter claiming, one of the two of them will likely be dead, and we can get the other tomorrow if needs be.

Supposing there is a doc if the game state doesn't change, don't tell him who to protect. Let him play a guessing game with the mafia.

A side note: If we DON'T have a cop, they probably won't have a Godfather, so they may just have another role.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

for those unaware: voyeur = i pick someone to watch for the night, i can see what was done to that person but not who did it. watcher = watch someone for the night and see who they were visited by

ok, now to the juice. How would Tracker and Voyeur play out if you both took action on the same person. Would either of you be able to come up with information that is 100%??
I see now that we may not have a full cop, similar to why i think we do not have a full doctor. If we do have a full doctor, i need you to pay very close attention to my claim and D3 proposition.

here it goes...

Id like to start with reminding you all that i will likley die this game, that is inevitable when you are playing the role i have.

I am Fernando Sucre, Town Bodyguard.
For those of you who do not know, a body guard is someone who can protect 1 player each night. If the player whom i choose to protect is attacked that night, i die instead of the latter. A 100% full doctor can protect me, while i protect another, thus preventing me from dying. However, i do not suggest the doc takes that plan of action.
We have a great deal of advantage over the mafia right now, you have no idea. I can guarantee at least one more successful info gathering night with me as the sacrifice.

Assuming brett and blackmage havnt blown smoke (im most inclined to beleive bret due to OB's response) i feel we should proceed with the following.
1. Lynch Old Bastard to confirm Brett
2. Trackers and voyeur do your night thangs and gather as much info as possible.
3. I will protect either of the two people who full claimed, most likley brett.
4. Doctor protects the other infogather
5. This puts the mafia in decision making mode essentially we have forced there hand.

The mafia will want to dispatch the info gatherers as fast as possible but at least for tonight, they wont succeed as i will likley take the blow for one of them. This allows you all to go into D3 with even more info.
The mafia may choose to ignore this situation and go for someone in hopes to find the doctor. Even then, We will come into D3 with more info.
the mafia may go for whom ever the doctor protects (the other info gatherer) this may result in a death or may not, either way, im still alive to recreate this plan for D4

Worst case scenario, we lose someone and old bastard was town
or best case scenario, either no one dies, i die and town gets 2 extra nights to gather info.

[brett friggin favre]

no actions were performed on mikey during night 1, that much i can confirm. also, to solidify my claim, look back to this post on day 1: http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/sho...668#post178668

hinting at voyeur, even using terms you might know from pronhub.

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of course that doesn't confirm me as town, but my voyeur claim. haywire was one of the fox river 8 though, i don't know much else about the character.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

thoughts on suggested plan?

[acolyte_to_jippity]

it doesn't sound too bad.

Though, i'm curious as to the soft claims we've had. Is nem being counted among them? I really feel like he's a CGO or something similar, as he made reference to people not wanting to visit him at night.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Now, keep in mind, the names i use in my idea... they are not concrete. There is still a possibility that brett and blackmage are in fact mafia and discussed a plan last night. If this were that case, it would explain why both blackmage and brett claimed roles that work well with eachother. It would also explain why they both insta voted Old Bastard.

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although, i do not think the above is the case. It is possible.

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so what im essentially saying is, if someone counter claims either of them or someone claims cop.... well eyebrows will be such raised.

[Old Bastard]

Okay so here goes, Michael Scofield was forced to include 'Haywire' into the escape plan because he found out about the escape. He was then later abandoned, and had to escape on his own. If that doesn't lead to motive on why 'Haywire' would want to kill Michael then I don't know what else would. I falsely claimed 'Haywire' on the off chance that someone would bite because they have the character and essentially flush out scum. Consider it a tactic, though a very deceitful one, but also clever. I am in fact, Brad Bellick, who of which obviously wanted to catch the Fox River 8 after they escaped, but ended up helping in the end same as when Michael kept me alive in prison when T-Bag wanted to kill me. I have watched this series repeatedly and have a pretty vast knowledge of it, so the fact that Haywire was indeed not happy with Michael in the slightest due to being left behind leads me to believe that he would be scum.

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And as we all very well know T-bag was indeed scum.

[brett friggin favre]

Okay so here goes, Michael Scofield was forced to include 'Haywire' into the escape plan because he found out about the escape. He was then later abandoned, and had to escape on his own. If that doesn't lead to motive on why 'Haywire' would want to kill Michael then I don't know what else would. I falsely claimed 'Haywire' on the off chance that someone would bite because they have the character and essentially flush out scum. Consider it a tactic, though a very deceitful one, but also clever. I am in fact, Brad Bellick, who of which obviously wanted to catch the Fox River 8 after they escaped, but ended up helping in the end same as when Michael kept me alive in prison when T-Bag wanted to kill me. I have watched this series repeatedly and have a pretty vast knowledge of it, so the fact that Haywire was indeed not happy with Michael in the slightest due to being left behind leads me to believe that he would be scum.

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And as we all very well know T-bag was indeed scum.

yeah. bullshit. you claimed haywire hoping nobody else was haywire, now you're claiming bellick hoping his redemption arc saves your hide.

IF your haywire claim was indeed to draw out a mafia guy, that's an awful idea because you have no way of knowing if haywire is town or mafia....you would get no info from that. you're clearly backpedaling and trying to save yourself but it won't work.

[Old Bastard]

Or you are clearly belittling what I post to save your own ass as well as blackmage. Why would Haywire not hate Michael Scofield and the crew for leaving him behind and not allowing him to escape with them?

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Would you not be pissed to be left behind on an escape?

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And no I am hard claiming Brad Bellick, where as I never truly hard claimed Haywire, Bellick was also crazy, not registered crazy, but crazy nonetheless. So you can pull the wool over everyone else's eyes but not me, because I see you for who you are, scum.

[brett friggin favre]

Or you are clearly belittling what I post to save your own ass as well as blackmage. Why would Haywire not hate Michael Scofield and the crew for leaving him behind and not allowing him to escape with them?

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Would you not be pissed to be left behind on an escape?

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And no I am hard claiming Brad Bellick, where as I never truly hard claimed Haywire, Bellick was also crazy, not registered crazy, but crazy nonetheless. So you can pull the wool over everyone else's eyes but not me, because I see you for who you are, scum.

haywire escaped with them, they ditched him after they were free. if haywire had chased after michael and tried to kill him, you'd have a point...but he didn't. he went his own way and from what i can see had no ill will.

you did hard claim haywire...you did a scummy half-assed claim and i made you do a hard claim.

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additionally, this game takes place in the prison, before any of that happened.