Supernatural Mafia

[Blackmage]

Sin: Mass claiming, even flavour claiming due to the closed environment we have, shrinks the guessing games significantly for both sides. We have to figure out who makes the worst claim, while we make characters such as Sam, Dean, Bobby and Cas pretty much instant targets. Depending on who all is shown, we might lose our healer night one, and then we better believe we can quickly figure out who the scum are fast. Your claim of Rufus VT actually may have made that harder, because it shows what kind of character is relegated to being a VT. We also have the problem that almost any hunter could be PGO or Macho. I do agree mass claiming is an option, I'm not sure I like having it come from someone who claimed VT.

While what he did may have been scummy or hurtful, unless we think he's lying or going to hurt us more, I don't think it would be worth it to lynch him. All the information we'd get currently is "who is willing to wagon a VT". At the very least, Nem, could you explain how lynching him is better than just going NL? Note: "he's black" isn't sufficient.

Dick Roman is from Season 7, which I won't be starting till today. Castiel could be good, evil, VT, 3rd party, god, lyncher going after Raphael, or what have you, depending on WHICH version we are working with. However, I'm leaning towards agreeing with OB. We have similar issues with characters such as Anna, Crowley, Ruby(if you REALLY want to stretch things), Death, and the list goes on and on in this show. We can make educated guesses, if they show up, but we may have some surprises.

Beyond that, seems everyone is waiting for Stan.

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most likely my only post for today unless i browse on phone. but should be big enough for y'all. Bcos i couldn't give a rat's ass if you complain about my posts :P

for the record, blade's post number 83 was EDITED.... but i check'd the edit history, he only added the last line, as a fucking regular reply... pay attention blade.

Maybe sin is claiming vt as a scapegoat. To cover himself because he actually has a useful power role.

Except that Rufus wasn't a main role in the series, and assuming flavor is important, the odds of him having a role here are slim, ESPECIALLY when there are SOOOO many other "power characters" in the series that could easily have a power here.... and Sin fake claiming Rufus, even as a power role, is quite a dangerous move unless he IS in fact Rufus...

The problem that you guys don't get, and nem and brett seem to understand from the start, is that:
SURE mafia will NOT focus on a VT and he'll be safe... that's all dandy and shit, but:
- claiming VT while BEING a vt makes it so that mafia can narrow down the list of targets to hit more power roles.
- claiming VT while NOT BEING a vt, is a risky play depending on alias, AND can risk in town lynching that "useless" VT on day 1 to move along, but instead being surprised by hitting a power role...
- also blackmage covered the other points HERE.

So that's why it's an overall dumb thing to claim, especially if it became a mass movement... not saying sin is scummy or anything, but the play was questionable.

@passerelli

in pages 8 and 9:
I understand that you are definitely trying to tell people that "no lynching" on day 1 is bad, and there needs to be a lynch today. That's fine and all, you are right (imo) about the key points you posted, but you're leaving the hard part out for other ppl instead of yourself:
WHO. WHO do you want to lynch on day 1? see thats the hard question. people tend to the no lynch BECAUSE they can't point a finger at someone. and honestly, from experience, the only way we were able to isolate scummy behaviours is by waiting for bandwagons on a very random or stupid person and see how it plays out...And currently? that's either Stan for being irish 2.0, or nemesis... for, AGAIN, always pressing ppl buttons for claiming, yet dodges everything thrown at him.

Just letting you know Castiel was mostly the good guy, so your suspicions on him are dead Wrong. He is most likely a Doctor if anything.

most likely. but i could also see him more as a "Faith Healer"

finally,

@nemesis.

Here's a question for you.
You have pushed for lynching a "claimed" VT, knowing that you wont be hitting a power role, fine, but that's STILL a 100% town kill assuming that sin in fact could not have fake claimed this. So why would you still go after a "claimed" vt instead of doing your usual of pushing more buttons on other ppl at the time, to try to see if you can find someone MORE APPROPRIATE to lynch, that a town vt as day 1... it's like you simply locked in on getting anyone or anything lynched, instead of testing the waters with something else...

And then comes stan, stan goes afk, people start raging on it, nemesis clearly sees the opportunity of the irish 2.0, and then suddenly, when 2 votes were on stan, and 2 on you, you decide to let go of ur original decision to lynch sin as a "safe pick NON POWER ROLE VT" to vote on STAN, who MIGHT be a power role for town... even though his enthusiasm shows he might as well be another VT considering he was willing to get himself lynched in his deleted post without fear or breaking the game.

so again, i ask you nem, why are you pushing for a guaranteed town lynch? or do you just want anyone OTHER than yourself to get lynched on day 1 so that you go on your merry way for night 1?

FOS nemesis, until he starts answering why those constant aggressive plays on townies instead of looking into who is BUSSING those "almost 90%" townies to be lynched...you know... other than nemesis himself.

[BladeTwinSwords]

for the record, blade's post number 83 was EDITED.... but i check'd the edit history, he only added the last line, as a fucking regular reply... pay attention blade.

I forgot how to forums, screw you lol.

[Sin]

I wouldn't even waste a vote on Stan, let him be policy lynched. Brett and Old Bastard seem to be on the same cycle, posting right after the other in the beginning of the thread.

Nem scummy as ever trying to steer the wagon to lynch me. And what about all the fags leaning towards nolynch (unless someone messes up, THANKS CAPTAIN OBVIOUS)? Silliest idea ever.

The term No-Lynch should be banned from ever being said day1.

I kinda just want to see how far I can go with no powers.

[Old Bastard]

Getting off topic here.

[brett friggin favre]

Getting off topic here.

well yeah cuz we're waiting for stan to show his average white mug.

white, right?

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what else are we supposed to do? we have almost circle jerked this to death.

[Nemesis]

what else are we supposed to do? we have almost circle jerked this to death.

We could, as a whole, come together and hate the blacks.

[Sin]

We could, as a whole, come together and hate the blacks.

Quit trying to get me lynched, Mountie fag.

[Old Bastard]

Quit trying to get me lynched, Mountie fag.

LOL! I think I pissed myself a little.