League of Mafia 26/06/14

[Nemesis]

Thanks for the love guys, means a lot. Something I've dealt with off and on since I was in my teens. I know it is irrational, stupid, annoying and above all a pain in the ass to deal with. I've tried lots of different meds but they either have no effect or make me into a zombie--zombified is the worst. I don't feel sad or upset but my will to do anything is worse then when I'm just depressed. Fun times. I've learned to deal with it via friends, activities, and self medication which works 95% of the time.

Anyways, back on topic:
Nemesis, he said he was going to sleep. I'm sure if a few people voted for him, he would claim when he woke up--I just wouldn't hammer him until he had a chance to respond.

I'm more inclined to vote for Mikey to dissuade collusion but it would feel good to vote for nigger-lips.

He's claiming to have some powers but he's lying, and his bus driver theory, while possible, contained far too little information and far too much of a push. He's either scummy or shitty, both a possibility.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I'm more inclined to vote for Mikey to dissuade collusion but it would feel good to vote for nigger-lips.

He's claiming to have some powers but he's lying, and his bus driver theory, while possible, contained far too little information and far too much of a push. He's either scummy or shitty, both a possibility.

Well, i point in the direction of my claim.

[Nemesis]

Well, i point in the direction of my claim.

You've yet to make one and I'd like to wait for others I chime in as well.

[What]

To address concerns, You will not force claim out of me Nem, because that does nothing to help the town, all of the mass role claiming is a terrible decision since all it does is tell the Mafia what it has to deal with and how it can work around roles. The town rarely if ever accepts a role claim at face value, unless its something like cop or doctor, and the most common response I have seen is, "Lets lynch that guy to see if he is telling the truth" and then 3 days later townies are still being lynched since everyone feels the only way to confirm someone's claim is by seeing them die.

I would not be inclined to vote Mikey, since in general he is not the sharpest tool in the shed so sometimes it is hard to see if he is just being ignorant naturally or intentionally. I have far more certainty that Nemesis is mafia, and most likely Goon due to a number of reasons, which is why I voted for him. Nemesis' willingness to throw Mikey under the bus would seem to incline me to believe that Mikey may well be town, or at least not mafia. I stand by that there is a bus driver in play. If it is evident from the scene that Aco did not want to protect anyone, yet his assailant made it clear that he was not the person he was aiming for, combined with the flavor before the Mafia kill, which has to be the kill on Brett due to the discussion and flavor before hand, that states they wanted to create chaos and confusion, its seems to be hinting that they attempted, and succeeded to mislead or attempt to mis-direct people at night, which again, can only be a bus driver, possibly a role blocker or nexus but far more unlikely.

I am awake now, will not be on constantly, but stand by everything I have said.

Nemsis is the Goon, provided that the flavor is accurate and people's comments can be scrutinized, this is almost a sure thing. If I am wrong, which I highly, highly, doubt, I will accept whatever judgement the town feels is necessary the following day. If I am right, odds are mafia wacks me at night.

[What]

Ignorance is not the same as stupidity, but clearly someone of your intellect already knew that......

[What]

You haven't been poking anything, your just trying to cover your ass because you must now see your foolishness. What you tend to do, is not ask question, not poke, not think, you just out right deny when someone logically deduces something from what they know, in addition to people's comments and the scenes. You are unable to think logically, and all you do is go, "Nope, its not there. Nu uh, nothing to see, your making it all up. I never said and or did that, its just you." You did the same thing to Pass on day 1 when you got caught in a lie, (or best case caught being real stupid). This is what you do, you always say and do nonsensical things that you insist are intelligent moves. You also get a lot of rules and other things wrong. Sometimes by your own ignorance, but other times intentionally in an attempt to mislead people, like when you said 2 mafia v 2 town results in a tie. That's why it is hard to see if you are doing something on purpose or not, but in the end, its still a terrible move for the town, I mean you completely deny seeing something that is purely logical in the night scene, something other people have picked up on as well, and you are completely distracting the town from what they should do this day, which is Lynch Nemesis.

For the sake of argument, lets say I do not have the town's best interests in mind, then this would be a completely stupid move on my part since its far too early to try and mortgage good will to get a kill in on someone. Even as bad as the town played last game, they still had a solid chance to win at the end due to the fact that as there are fewer and fewer people in the game, it easier to see who is lying, and even with 17 people, which is 2 more than the last game, you likely only have 3 mafia, and a couple 3rd party people. I will not reveal my role or unveil how I know what I know since that would essentially hamstring me for the rest of the game, even more so due to there certainly being a busdriver or similar role in play.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

You haven't been poking anything, your just trying to cover your ass because you must now see your foolishness. What you tend to do, is not ask question, not poke, not think, you just out right deny when someone logically deduces something from what they know, in addition to people's comments and the scenes. You are unable to think logically, and all you do is go, "Nope, its not there. Nu uh, nothing to see, your making it all up. I never said and or did that, its just you." You did the same thing to Pass on day 1 when you got caught in a lie, (or best case caught being real stupid). This is what you do, you always say and do nonsensical things that you insist are intelligent moves. You also get a lot of rules and other things wrong. Sometimes by your own ignorance, but other times intentionally in an attempt to mislead people, like when you said 2 mafia v 2 town results in a tie. That's why it is hard to see if you are doing something on purpose or not, but in the end, its still a terrible move for the town, I mean you completely deny seeing something that is purely logical in the night scene, something other people have picked up on as well, and you are completely distracting the town from what they should do this day, which is Lynch Nemesis.

For the sake of argument, lets say I do not have the town's best interests in mind, then this would be a completely stupid move on my part since its far too early to try and mortgage good will to get a kill in on someone. Even as bad as the town played last game, they still had a solid chance to win at the end due to the fact that as there are fewer and fewer people in the game, it easier to see who is lying, and even with 17 people, which is 2 more than the last game, you likely only have 3 mafia, and a couple 3rd party people. I will not reveal my role or unveil how I know what I know since that would essentially hamstring me for the rest of the game, even more so due to there certainly being a busdriver or similar role in play.

First, your deduction from the flavor is not obvious. It is extremely shakey and given the role you think it is, it nulls and raises quesrions about any information gathered last night. Now I do think it possible that a bus could be in the game, I dont think that flavor is evidence enough.

secondly, I retract to a previous post where I said my vote on you was per principle. You named me mafia with what seemed like 100 percent certainty.

Id also like to know what lie I was appearntly caught in with pass that is realitive to this game. Bottom line is, you are acting scummy as fuck.

Also, given that most of the town urged away from investigating phil and blade, its pretty obvious to me that nem would be the likley target. I havnt disclaimed your suspicions of him and find them pretty just.

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Anyways, im done arguing with you. Youll simply reply with an insult about how im stupid and you are the best mafia scum player in the world without ahir to stand on.

Have said what I need to say.

[Wolfenstinger]

I'm not siding with What nor am I siding with Mikey in that arguement... but ....

Vote Sin

I'm going to casually slide this in and then casually slide on out. . . with my own reason . . . yes...

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

You kept reading the scene wrong, and insisting that I and others were choosing to ignore the last line until I pointed out to you that it was not Aco talking, but his attacker, to which you thanked me for clarifying that, then you seemed to backtrack like that never happened. My interpretation is not shaky based on how night scenes are written and how they function, combined with literally what it says during Aco's death and what I know from outside of the scene. Insisting it is shaky is illogical unless you can come up with a superior interpretation of the scene, which you have not offered, you have simply being denying everyone else's understanding of it.

I also fail to see how it is at all "Scummy" as you say, to provide the information I have gathered towards the most likely target on DAY 2. It is absolutely no benefit to me, if I am anti-town, to attempt to sway opinion on DAY 2 to get someone lynched, when it would not benefit me in the short or long term, the only way this benefits anyone is the town, since the goon will be gone, and the suspect pool will begin to narrow, along with whatever investigation or protective roles we have then having a smaller number of people to look at/protect, it only helps the town.

Side note: Whenever you or anyone else, has said someone is acting "scummy" you have been 100% wrong about it. There is no acting "scummy" by offering information, the only way to do so is by willfully denying facts to the detriment of the town, fake claiming a role, or something else along those very explicit lines. Being silent is not inherently "Scummy", nor is "talking", or "talking just enough". Its that kind of foolish thinking that gets townies killed 5 days in a row.

You are not running the show Mikey, nor am I, which is why I never told you to shut up, I provided my information, outline as much of the reasoning around it as I could, and offered up the best possible Day 2 move we have right now, since it appears that no investigative role has come out to condemn anyone. I would like to see what some of the more sober and thoughtful players have to say. Which they will never do if you keep throwing up foolish road blocks to useful conversation.

Again, it is not obvious in the flavor. Therefor it is not credible. Secondly, you have provided nothing to the table in ewgards to why we should lynch nem. You simply said to do it. You have not claimed, nor provided evidence.

You are expecting people to blindly follow you. Shit doant work that way and ofc you are going to be countered. This is reason 1 as to yor scummy behaviour. Reason 2 is that you continue to insist that there is a bus. If it were any other role, we wouldnt bebhaving this conversation.

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Like I have said now, drop it and give the lurks time to do somthing more then what wolf did o.o

Wth wolf lol

we have 2 day 2 investigation soft claims?

[Assassin]

I'm still abstaining until I see more evidence. Nothing brought up is damning enough to do anything on, and I'm sure as hell not following the "revealers" lynching ideas, at least without someone backing their claims up more.