League of Mafia 26/06/14

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Pretty sure a Role Cop would do just that. I'm not claiming that, but its just to show you again, your assumptions about the game are erroneous, either intentionally or unintentionally.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Role_Cop

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http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Role_Cop

Secondly, unlesss you are lying you have basiclly soft claimed an investigation role. Despite you saying time and time again that you wont claim.

It Is entierly possible that you are misunderstanding everything I have said and am doing. Then again, that would requiee you to have made a mistake or done somthing stupid and unfortunately, according to you. You are a god amoung villagers, the best player here... oh my.

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I have been fishing and poking buttons and you just so happened to take the bait. Scrivbles on the other hand well.. I poked him and he hardly replied. Smart if you ask me.

[What]

You haven't been poking anything, your just trying to cover your ass because you must now see your foolishness. What you tend to do, is not ask question, not poke, not think, you just out right deny when someone logically deduces something from what they know, in addition to people's comments and the scenes. You are unable to think logically, and all you do is go, "Nope, its not there. Nu uh, nothing to see, your making it all up. I never said and or did that, its just you." You did the same thing to Pass on day 1 when you got caught in a lie, (or best case caught being real stupid). This is what you do, you always say and do nonsensical things that you insist are intelligent moves. You also get a lot of rules and other things wrong. Sometimes by your own ignorance, but other times intentionally in an attempt to mislead people, like when you said 2 mafia v 2 town results in a tie. That's why it is hard to see if you are doing something on purpose or not, but in the end, its still a terrible move for the town, I mean you completely deny seeing something that is purely logical in the night scene, something other people have picked up on as well, and you are completely distracting the town from what they should do this day, which is Lynch Nemesis.

For the sake of argument, lets say I do not have the town's best interests in mind, then this would be a completely stupid move on my part since its far too early to try and mortgage good will to get a kill in on someone. Even as bad as the town played last game, they still had a solid chance to win at the end due to the fact that as there are fewer and fewer people in the game, it easier to see who is lying, and even with 17 people, which is 2 more than the last game, you likely only have 3 mafia, and a couple 3rd party people. I will not reveal my role or unveil how I know what I know since that would essentially hamstring me for the rest of the game, even more so due to there certainly being a busdriver or similar role in play.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

You haven't been poking anything, your just trying to cover your ass because you must now see your foolishness. What you tend to do, is not ask question, not poke, not think, you just out right deny when someone logically deduces something from what they know, in addition to people's comments and the scenes. You are unable to think logically, and all you do is go, "Nope, its not there. Nu uh, nothing to see, your making it all up. I never said and or did that, its just you." You did the same thing to Pass on day 1 when you got caught in a lie, (or best case caught being real stupid). This is what you do, you always say and do nonsensical things that you insist are intelligent moves. You also get a lot of rules and other things wrong. Sometimes by your own ignorance, but other times intentionally in an attempt to mislead people, like when you said 2 mafia v 2 town results in a tie. That's why it is hard to see if you are doing something on purpose or not, but in the end, its still a terrible move for the town, I mean you completely deny seeing something that is purely logical in the night scene, something other people have picked up on as well, and you are completely distracting the town from what they should do this day, which is Lynch Nemesis.

For the sake of argument, lets say I do not have the town's best interests in mind, then this would be a completely stupid move on my part since its far too early to try and mortgage good will to get a kill in on someone. Even as bad as the town played last game, they still had a solid chance to win at the end due to the fact that as there are fewer and fewer people in the game, it easier to see who is lying, and even with 17 people, which is 2 more than the last game, you likely only have 3 mafia, and a couple 3rd party people. I will not reveal my role or unveil how I know what I know since that would essentially hamstring me for the rest of the game, even more so due to there certainly being a busdriver or similar role in play.

First, your deduction from the flavor is not obvious. It is extremely shakey and given the role you think it is, it nulls and raises quesrions about any information gathered last night. Now I do think it possible that a bus could be in the game, I dont think that flavor is evidence enough.

secondly, I retract to a previous post where I said my vote on you was per principle. You named me mafia with what seemed like 100 percent certainty.

Id also like to know what lie I was appearntly caught in with pass that is realitive to this game. Bottom line is, you are acting scummy as fuck.

Also, given that most of the town urged away from investigating phil and blade, its pretty obvious to me that nem would be the likley target. I havnt disclaimed your suspicions of him and find them pretty just.

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Anyways, im done arguing with you. Youll simply reply with an insult about how im stupid and you are the best mafia scum player in the world without ahir to stand on.

Have said what I need to say.

[What]

You kept reading the scene wrong, and insisting that I and others were choosing to ignore the last line until I pointed out to you that it was not Aco talking, but his attacker, to which you thanked me for clarifying that, then you seemed to backtrack like that never happened. My interpretation is not shaky based on how night scenes are written and how they function, combined with literally what it says during Aco's death and what I know from outside of the scene. Insisting it is shaky is illogical unless you can come up with a superior interpretation of the scene, which you have not offered, you have simply being denying everyone else's understanding of it.

I also fail to see how it is at all "Scummy" as you say, to provide the information I have gathered towards the most likely target on DAY 2. It is absolutely no benefit to me, if I am anti-town, to attempt to sway opinion on DAY 2 to get someone lynched, when it would not benefit me in the short or long term, the only way this benefits anyone is the town, since the goon will be gone, and the suspect pool will begin to narrow, along with whatever investigation or protective roles we have then having a smaller number of people to look at/protect, it only helps the town.

Side note: Whenever you or anyone else, has said someone is acting "scummy" you have been 100% wrong about it. There is no acting "scummy" by offering information, the only way to do so is by willfully denying facts to the detriment of the town, fake claiming a role, or something else along those very explicit lines. Being silent is not inherently "Scummy", nor is "talking", or "talking just enough". Its that kind of foolish thinking that gets townies killed 5 days in a row.

You are not running the show Mikey, nor am I, which is why I never told you to shut up, I provided my information, outline as much of the reasoning around it as I could, and offered up the best possible Day 2 move we have right now, since it appears that no investigative role has come out to condemn anyone. I would like to see what some of the more sober and thoughtful players have to say. Which they will never do if you keep throwing up foolish road blocks to useful conversation.

[Wolfenstinger]

I'm not siding with What nor am I siding with Mikey in that arguement... but ....

Vote Sin

I'm going to casually slide this in and then casually slide on out. . . with my own reason . . . yes...

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

You kept reading the scene wrong, and insisting that I and others were choosing to ignore the last line until I pointed out to you that it was not Aco talking, but his attacker, to which you thanked me for clarifying that, then you seemed to backtrack like that never happened. My interpretation is not shaky based on how night scenes are written and how they function, combined with literally what it says during Aco's death and what I know from outside of the scene. Insisting it is shaky is illogical unless you can come up with a superior interpretation of the scene, which you have not offered, you have simply being denying everyone else's understanding of it.

I also fail to see how it is at all "Scummy" as you say, to provide the information I have gathered towards the most likely target on DAY 2. It is absolutely no benefit to me, if I am anti-town, to attempt to sway opinion on DAY 2 to get someone lynched, when it would not benefit me in the short or long term, the only way this benefits anyone is the town, since the goon will be gone, and the suspect pool will begin to narrow, along with whatever investigation or protective roles we have then having a smaller number of people to look at/protect, it only helps the town.

Side note: Whenever you or anyone else, has said someone is acting "scummy" you have been 100% wrong about it. There is no acting "scummy" by offering information, the only way to do so is by willfully denying facts to the detriment of the town, fake claiming a role, or something else along those very explicit lines. Being silent is not inherently "Scummy", nor is "talking", or "talking just enough". Its that kind of foolish thinking that gets townies killed 5 days in a row.

You are not running the show Mikey, nor am I, which is why I never told you to shut up, I provided my information, outline as much of the reasoning around it as I could, and offered up the best possible Day 2 move we have right now, since it appears that no investigative role has come out to condemn anyone. I would like to see what some of the more sober and thoughtful players have to say. Which they will never do if you keep throwing up foolish road blocks to useful conversation.

Again, it is not obvious in the flavor. Therefor it is not credible. Secondly, you have provided nothing to the table in ewgards to why we should lynch nem. You simply said to do it. You have not claimed, nor provided evidence.

You are expecting people to blindly follow you. Shit doant work that way and ofc you are going to be countered. This is reason 1 as to yor scummy behaviour. Reason 2 is that you continue to insist that there is a bus. If it were any other role, we wouldnt bebhaving this conversation.

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Like I have said now, drop it and give the lurks time to do somthing more then what wolf did o.o

Wth wolf lol

we have 2 day 2 investigation soft claims?

[What]

I have stated my reasons, I will not claim, and providing how I know what I know will make me ineffective for the rest of the game. It is far too early in the game to be pulling shit out of my ass since it could not possibly benefit me now or later if I were to do so.

As far as the bus, tell me then, with your "wisdom" How, if Aco DID NOT protect someone, that his attacker would remark that he was not the one he wanted to kill? What possible role could cause one person to become the unintended target of another's actions? You can stomp your feet all you want about how you don't think there is a bus, but you need to provide some reason for going against what the scene says that is not grounded in fantasy or ignorance.

[phil.™]

With What and Mikey's convo, I am still not truly convinced. Day 1 and now Day 2 has been merely a conversation between pass and mikey, and now What and mikey. We need more people to chime in on this. I'm assuming the cop is up-to-date with the thread, and did not get any lead last night?

[Nemesis]

With What and Mikey's convo, I am still not truly convinced. Day 1 and now Day 2 has been merely a conversation between pass and mikey, and now What and mikey. We need more people to chime in on this. I'm assuming the cop is up-to-date with the thread, and did not get any lead last night?

I'm fairly sure we don't have a cop. Also What is pressing without any information, same as he did yesterday, solely because he is whiney. He refuses to provide any info and is trying to bully everyone to agree with him.

[Assassin]

I'm still abstaining until I see more evidence. Nothing brought up is damning enough to do anything on, and I'm sure as hell not following the "revealers" lynching ideas, at least without someone backing their claims up more.