Originally Posted by
Blackmage
If you want me to say something, here's you go. Phil made a claim, but has not fully claimed. Pass keeps suggesting he should cement the claim so "someone could CC". The only problem there is, unless we think Phil is the head WW, that's probably the worst move we have left to us. Related to that, clearing Phil because of no CC would be just as bad.
There are 5 roles Phil could be. If he's the head WW, he's doing a huge gamble. I strongly doubt he's the head WW, but if we think he is, we should just lynch him and win. This is the only case we want to push for a CC. If he's the minor WW, with what Pass is suggesting is, either he's cleared because the real PR doesn't CC, or else he IS CC'd, and we go to the CC case. If he's the minor vamp, while, yes, he's trying to clear himself, what he's also doing is helping the town. At night, if the WWs convert him, both of our PRs are still around, and they didn't mess with the masons. If he's the head Vamp, he does the above, only moreso, because it means he won't be converted. As a vamp, if he's CC'd, we CAN'T hit a werewolf, AND we out a PR to the WWs. If he's actually a PR, he can still be CC'd by a WW, and we may have to look at a CC case anyway.
If he DOES get CC'd, we have to decide if who is telling the truth. A failure means they have an extra kill AND an extra night. Success means kill something and STILL lose a PR.
Either we want to lynch him, or not. As I see it, we DON'T want a CC. Pass, maybe I'm missing something, but why are you pushing for him to possibly be CC'd?
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