Mafia Game: Monster Mash (Hosted by Sin and What)

[Passarelli]

I find this hilarious. Mikey, you can't figure out why I'm suspicious of his Claim? Of course if he were the lesser werewolf he would claim town sided Power role but without saying which he was to avoid being countered. I just find that scummy as fuck, but I guess that is just me.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I find this hilarious. Mikey, you can't figure out why I'm suspicious of his Claim? Of course if he were the lesser werewolf he would claim town sided Power role but without saying which he was to avoid being countered. I just find that scummy as fuck, but I guess that is just me.

Or perhaps if YOU were the lesser werewolf, you would claim "town side pr."
What ifs are not a reason to lynch someone.
I dont care how YOU would play a role.

Phil is 1 of threee things.
1. an anti town but not the anti town we are looking for.
2. a vannila tonie, making a bad play.
3. a town pr who just lost us the game.

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and to be even more clear.

You are determined to lynch phil. Why phil and why now? Perhaps it is because there is a wagon. Further evidence substantiates my hypothesis. You were in fact the last person to vote for phil. Thus putting him at L-2.

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To be entierly honest... i dont expect people to actually read the thread. If they do, who we vote is pretty clear.

[Blackmage]

The reason I haven't said anything is twofold. First, given certain parties decided to make the town's job much more dificult, in contrast to a plan I laid out, obviously my input wasn't required. Second, I was waiting to see how long it would take for ANYONE to mention I hadn't said a single word. Only took about 9 and a half days. I'll let you live in your delusional world and admit to anything you care to say if it so helps your ego. Sadly, you just can't seem to get it into your thick skull that sometimes dead horses should lie unbeaten, and that you can't actually change history.

If you want me to say something, here's you go. Phil made a claim, but has not fully claimed. Pass keeps suggesting he should cement the claim so "someone could CC". The only problem there is, unless we think Phil is the head WW, that's probably the worst move we have left to us. Related to that, clearing Phil because of no CC would be just as bad.

There are 5 roles Phil could be. If he's the head WW, he's doing a huge gamble. I strongly doubt he's the head WW, but if we think he is, we should just lynch him and win. This is the only case we want to push for a CC. If he's the minor WW, with what Pass is suggesting is, either he's cleared because the real PR doesn't CC, or else he IS CC'd, and we go to the CC case. If he's the minor vamp, while, yes, he's trying to clear himself, what he's also doing is helping the town. At night, if the WWs convert him, both of our PRs are still around, and they didn't mess with the masons. If he's the head Vamp, he does the above, only moreso, because it means he won't be converted. As a vamp, if he's CC'd, we CAN'T hit a werewolf, AND we out a PR to the WWs. If he's actually a PR, he can still be CC'd by a WW, and we may have to look at a CC case anyway.

If he DOES get CC'd, we have to decide if who is telling the truth. A failure means they have an extra kill AND an extra night. Success means kill something and STILL lose a PR.

Either we want to lynch him, or not. As I see it, we DON'T want a CC. Pass, maybe I'm missing something, but why are you pushing for him to possibly be CC'd?

Side note, Mikey, Ass, you might want to decide what to do with the faith healer. If you ARE planning on shooting someone, you want to find a way to NOT have the healer protect that person.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

The reason I haven't said anything is twofold. First, given certain parties decided to make the town's job much more dificult, in contrast to a plan I laid out, obviously my input wasn't required. Second, I was waiting to see how long it would take for ANYONE to mention I hadn't said a single word. Only took about 9 and a half days. I'll let you live in your delusional world and admit to anything you care to say if it so helps your ego. Sadly, you just can't seem to get it into your thick skull that sometimes dead horses should lie unbeaten, and that you can't actually change history.

If you want me to say something, here's you go. Phil made a claim, but has not fully claimed. Pass keeps suggesting he should cement the claim so "someone could CC". The only problem there is, unless we think Phil is the head WW, that's probably the worst move we have left to us. Related to that, clearing Phil because of no CC would be just as bad.

There are 5 roles Phil could be. If he's the head WW, he's doing a huge gamble. I strongly doubt he's the head WW, but if we think he is, we should just lynch him and win. This is the only case we want to push for a CC. If he's the minor WW, with what Pass is suggesting is, either he's cleared because the real PR doesn't CC, or else he IS CC'd, and we go to the CC case. If he's the minor vamp, while, yes, he's trying to clear himself, what he's also doing is helping the town. At night, if the WWs convert him, both of our PRs are still around, and they didn't mess with the masons. If he's the head Vamp, he does the above, only moreso, because it means he won't be converted. As a vamp, if he's CC'd, we CAN'T hit a werewolf, AND we out a PR to the WWs. If he's actually a PR, he can still be CC'd by a WW, and we may have to look at a CC case anyway.

If he DOES get CC'd, we have to decide if who is telling the truth. A failure means they have an extra kill AND an extra night. Success means kill something and STILL lose a PR.

Either we want to lynch him, or not. As I see it, we DON'T want a CC. Pass, maybe I'm missing something, but why are you pushing for him to possibly be CC'd?

Side note, Mikey, Ass, you might want to decide what to do with the faith healer. If you ARE planning on shooting someone, you want to find a way to NOT have the healer protect that person.

problem is, most of your post is irrelevant. Worrying about mafia or sufficing for mafia is bad. If and when all werewolfs are dead, its an auto win for town. Provided at least 3 town power roles are alive.
secondly, i noted you being afk, i noted your inaction to my phil vote, im aware. My observation of you hasnt changed since your attack on me. I still believe you to be mafia, however, mafia lynches are not the towns goal.
I want to be as clear as i can, YOU provoked me. YOU attacked me. Over something as trivial as an opinion you misunderstood. It is over kid, stop digging up graves.

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problem is, most of your post is irrelevant. Worrying about mafia or sufficing for mafia is bad. If and when all werewolfs are dead, its an auto win for town. Provided at least 3 town power roles are alive.
secondly, i noted you being afk, i noted your inaction to my phil vote, im aware. My observation of you hasnt changed since your attack on me. I still believe you to be mafia, however, mafia lynches are not the towns goal.
I want to be as clear as i can, YOU provoked me. YOU attacked me. Over something as trivial as an opinion you misunderstood. It is over kid, stop digging up graves.

yo better explain how its an auto win.

If all werewolfs are dead (the result of lynching the alpha) that means 2 mafia remain. In the event the alpha is lynched, it gives all remaining power roles the ability to hard claim safely. Doing to limits the poll to lynch or vig kill from. After that is accomplished, town can either lynch the remainder and/or let vig kill. Process of elimination.

Secondly and probually the biggest... i feel like a majority of you who are fighting, including blackmage, are neglecting the fact that mafia cant be caught by the seer. As the seer only detects werewolf's.

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pre intowxicated, i apologize for any broken english.

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furthermore @ seer. Ignore the simple fact that your investigative results could end up being the person who get turned. The goal for town is to find and lynch the alpha. If you get a result saying non werewolf and they end up getting turned, or a thought crosses your mind about whether or not they were turned, ignore it and use process of elimination. The people who are potential targets for turns are not the alpha, there for, do not worry about them.

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also, blackmage. I will say it now and personally tell assassin, not to kill tonight.

[Blackmage]

problem is, most of your post is irrelevant.

Let's see, my post starts explaining why I haven't posted. Given you asked for that, that can't be irrelevant . Then I explain why I disagree with Pass wanting to go for a CC and asking where he differs from me. That might be irrelevant if we're supposed to blindly follow you, I guess. Then the final thing you responded to in agreement. So that obviously wasn't irrelevant either.

So, the only way that post is irrelevant, much less "mostly irrelevant", is if first, we assume the game isn't relevant, since that is all connected to the game. Second, only if we're supposed to blindly follow your lead. We're off to a great start here, aren't we.

Worrying about mafia or sufficing for mafia is bad. If and when all werewolfs are dead, its an auto win for town. Provided at least 3 town power roles are alive.

Agreed.

secondly, i noted you being afk, i noted your inaction to my phil vote, im aware.

You noted I wouldn't follow someone who totally disagrees with me, ruins the town's best chance and calls me scum? Yay, I suppose? I trust you enough to believe the claim. As a leader, I find you lacking, since you actually have less information than everyone else. Then, we consider the fact that you "deduced" I am a Vampire from pointless banter. Banter, that may I point out, you choose not to end when you knew it might lead to more people questioning you. You, nor Ass, are leaders I will follow.

My observation of you hasnt changed since your attack on me. I still believe you to be mafia, however, mafia lynches are not the towns goal.

Case and point.

I want to be as clear as i can, YOU provoked me. YOU attacked me.

Be as "clear" as you want to. This is not, and never was true. Like I said, you can't actually change history.

It is over kid, stop digging up graves.

Are you embarrassed about being wrong?

I didn't dig it up, you did. I'm just childish enough to respond. Also, calling me kid, that's amusing. How much older than me are you exactly?

yo better explain how its an auto win.

If all werewolfs are dead (the result of lynching the alpha) that means 2 mafia remain. In the event the alpha is lynched, it gives all remaining power roles the ability to hard claim safely. Doing to limits the poll to lynch or vig kill from. After that is accomplished, town can either lynch the remainder and/or let vig kill. Process of elimination.

Yes, once we've killed the alpha, as long as we have enough PRs still alive, we've won. The problem is, and always has been, finding the alpha in time.

Secondly and probually the biggest... i feel like a majority of you who are fighting, including blackmage, are neglecting the fact that mafia cant be caught by the seer. As the seer only detects werewolf's.

Let us look back. Back to the first post. The "obvious post".

Don't think of the Vamps as a second mafia group. Think of them as 3rd party masons. One of them is a VT, one of them is RB. We also can't find them with our cop.

Emphasis mine. It's amazing what was "redundant and filler" needs to be once again uttered. By the one who insulted it first, no less. He also insinuates the one who first stated it doesn't know it. This impressive piece of game awareness is just one more reason I won't follow.

furthermore @ seer. Ignore the simple fact that your investigative results could end up being the person who get turned. The goal for town is to find and lynch the alpha. If you get a result saying non werewolf and they end up getting turned, or a thought crosses your mind about whether or not they were turned, ignore it and use process of elimination. The people who are potential targets for turns are not the alpha, there for, do not worry about them.

Oh look, something else I said, here.

Our Seer gets weaker each night. There is only 1 WW worth finding. Every day past the first, with a possible additional werewolf, we get one further away from finding the head. Plus, as soon as he outs himself to kill a WW, he's dead, or most likely converted by the head.

To anyone wondering, yes, I'm responding to his bait. Feel free to ignore most of the interactions I have with Mikey from here on. I'll make any posts that will be relevant to the game obvious.

[Passarelli]

If you want me to say something, here's you go. Phil made a claim, but has not fully claimed. Pass keeps suggesting he should cement the claim so "someone could CC". The only problem there is, unless we think Phil is the head WW, that's probably the worst move we have left to us. Related to that, clearing Phil because of no CC would be just as bad.

There are 5 roles Phil could be. If he's the head WW, he's doing a huge gamble. I strongly doubt he's the head WW, but if we think he is, we should just lynch him and win. This is the only case we want to push for a CC. If he's the minor WW, with what Pass is suggesting is, either he's cleared because the real PR doesn't CC, or else he IS CC'd, and we go to the CC case. If he's the minor vamp, while, yes, he's trying to clear himself, what he's also doing is helping the town. At night, if the WWs convert him, both of our PRs are still around, and they didn't mess with the masons. If he's the head Vamp, he does the above, only moreso, because it means he won't be converted. As a vamp, if he's CC'd, we CAN'T hit a werewolf, AND we out a PR to the WWs. If he's actually a PR, he can still be CC'd by a WW, and we may have to look at a CC case anyway.

If he DOES get CC'd, we have to decide if who is telling the truth. A failure means they have an extra kill AND an extra night. Success means kill something and STILL lose a PR.

Either we want to lynch him, or not. As I see it, we DON'T want a CC. Pass, maybe I'm missing something, but why are you pushing for him to possibly be CC'd?

Reading the rest but then I have to head out. Thank you for actually showing some reasoning why Phil hard claiming could be a bad idea. I had only asked around 5 times.

Unvote

Mikey, you still don't see why I don't trust Phil's post? A lot of it has to do with 2/3 wagons day 1 hitting power roles. I also encourage you to please reread my recent posts--I thought I laid out the scenario fairly well.

[Assassin]

also, blackmage. I will say it now and personally tell assassin, not to kill tonight.

You take all the fun out of it...sigh fine..no capping someone.

[Trigger Unhappy]

Reading the rest but then I have to head out. Thank you for actually showing some reasoning why Phil hard claiming could be a bad idea. I had only asked around 5 times.

Unvote

Mikey, you still don't see why I don't trust Phil's post? A lot of it has to do with 2/3 wagons day 1 hitting power roles. I also encourage you to please reread my recent posts--I thought I laid out the scenario fairly well.

Why unvote? I agree that the chances we hit 2 power roles is unlikely. Phil claiming town power so early is really scummy and you know he isnt going to hard claim because then he would get cc'd

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Reading the rest but then I have to head out. Thank you for actually showing some reasoning why Phil hard claiming could be a bad idea. I had only asked around 5 times.

Unvote

Mikey, you still don't see why I don't trust Phil's post? A lot of it has to do with 2/3 wagons day 1 hitting power roles. I also encourage you to please reread my recent posts--I thought I laid out the scenario fairly well.

i never said i did not understand and if you look back, i had voted for him long before the rest of you. I do not disagree with your assessment either.
unvote

[minjae]

Vote Pass

beCAUSE

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You wanted Phil to CC SO BAD, and just because someone says that it's not a good idea, you change your mind 180 just like that huh?
I think you were being really stubborn to get him to CC, but after realizing how bad it looks, you changed your mind.

We must free the WW of their curse before they spread it.








LOL

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You wanted Phil to CLAIM*

Damnit..

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I think it may be a full moon soon....