Absolution <ibis.a> | 01-13-15

[sup]

Admin's INGAME name: Absolution
Your INGAME name: Racist
Server: ZM
Map: ze_rooftop_runaway2_v4; ze_shaun_of_the_dead_b3
Date & Time: 01-13-15; around 6pm CST

How did he/she abuse (See TOS): assumed seniority despite having lost it after going afk; changed map repeatedly.

Proof:

First demo, rooftop runaway, tickmark 20700 mark: in chat, console log: "[AFK Manager] Absolution <ibis.a> was moved to spectate for being AFK too long." At this point he has been sitting in spectate for at least 10 minutes (all of current map plus approximately 5 minutes of prior map) and clearly loses any claim to senior admin because the AFK manager only posts that warning after a period of 5 idle minutes. Eventually I change to jurassic park story, which he comes back for; at no point do I leave the server or even go spectate once. Demo of JP not included but will be provided at request.

Second demo, shaun of the dead, very end of demo (roughly 6000 tickmark): Absolution changes map to desert fortress. I, as rightful senior admin, change back to shaun of the dead. He continues to defy my proper seniority and change back again twice more before I contact clan for advice. Please do something about this fool, he pulls this kind of shit all the time, sitting in spec, going idle, then coming back and pretending his 3-hour connection time makes him senior despite clearly having been afk.

Edit: one more piece of pertinent information. When Cyber comes in later on Desert Fortress to settle the dispute, Absolution claims that he never went idle, was simply in spectate during Rooftop, actively watching. The fact that AFK Manager moved him to spectate CLEARLY proves that this was a blatant lie to a clan member. Please consider that fact when determining the outcome of this.

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Did you try to contact him mic/chat before changing maps?
I just hope when you guys were talking shit to each other it was in admin chat and not were everyone could read or hear.

[sup]

Yes you do lose seniority if you're afk, but did you try to contact him mic/chat before changing maps?

I'm not sure why I should have to if the AFK Manager has provided absolute, incontrovertible proof that he has been idle for a period of 5 minutes, which is the amount of time an admin can go idle before losing seniority.

[Steamer]

Truth. ^
Minor abuse.

[maynard]

sooo... did I Miss something? cause I don't recall ever in the history of ibis where an admin loses his seniority if he goes afk for a short bit and I'll include 10-15 minutes within that time frame... having a cig and making another drink easily eat up that time. am I missing something here?

generally between admins who don't have a rival and hate each other... if an admin is gone for a bit in AFK, the next in line will assume seniority and once the other admin returns give it up. Obviously you can't just stay in spec forever and keep it... but 10-15 min when you're investing hours of game play is kind of a joke.

if the rules have some how changed without my knowledge please show me the new rule.

been idle for a period of 5 minutes, which is the amount of time an admin can go idle before losing seniority.

again.. where in the ibis rules does it claim this?

[Steamer]

He was afk longer, did you watch demo? It was at least the 10 minutes by rough count.

[sup]

He was also idle for the last 5 or so minutes of the last map before that (Voodoo).

As for the 5 minute rule: this is the rule I've been told by clan for as long as I can remember. 5 minutes makes sense because that's the amount of time before the AFK manager plugin will move a player into spectate (or kick unless they have a reserved slot).

[maynard]

so we don't allow people to go take a shit, make a drink or have a smoke without impacting senior admin anymore? seriously... am I missing something, cause unless zero made a new rule, he didn't abuse shit. this is simply racist pissed at him for the prior shit and trying to get him for anything he can. there's nothing wrong with an admin taking a short break to do RL shit.. never has been. if there's a new rule, please let me know of it otherwise he did nothing wrong by literally zero's own standards he set.

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He was also idle for the last 5 or so minutes of the last map before that (Voodoo).

As for the 5 minute rule: this is the rule I've been told by clan for as long as I can remember. 5 minutes makes sense because that's the amount of time before the AFK manager plugin will move a player into spectate (or kick unless they have a reserved slot).

well I was personally told by zero a very diff timeline back in the day. this isn't a MMORPG... people have lifes, have bowels, smoke, drink, and sometimes get a phone call. to say "oh you were inactive for 5 minutes" but played the last hour or more and lose seniority is a joke.

[swagbot 9k]

so we don't allow people to go take a shit, make a drink or have a smoke without impacting senior admin anymore? seriously... am I missing something, cause unless zero made a new rule, he didn't abuse shit. this is simply racist pissed at him for the prior shit and trying to get him for anything he can. there's nothing wrong with an admin taking a short break to do RL shit.. never has been. if there's a new rule, please let me know of it otherwise he did nothing wrong by literally zero's own standards he set.

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well I was personally told by zero a very diff timeline back in the day. this isn't a MMORPG... people have lifes, have bowels, smoke, drink, and sometimes get a phone call. to say "oh you were inactive for 5 minutes" but played the last hour or more and lose seniority is a joke.

While the 5 minutes does seem short, fixin a plate for dinner can easily take that much time, I have seen Absolution take the seniority claim as soon as the AFK manager puts the senior admin into spectate. Sadly with no proof though.

There is a hated rivalry here but it isn't just racist. A lot of regulars and admins have had it with his combative responses and quick to insult when proven wrong. Now I know, me saying this is kettle meeting pot but it should show something. If I make a mistake or in fact cause something directly, I will own up too it. This child here does nothing but shit on others and cry like a 10 year old.

[Absolution]

so we don't allow people to go take a shit, make a drink or have a smoke without impacting senior admin anymore? seriously... am I missing something, cause unless zero made a new rule, he didn't abuse shit. this is simply racist pissed at him for the prior shit and trying to get him for anything he can. there's nothing wrong with an admin taking a short break to do RL shit.. never has been. if there's a new rule, please let me know of it otherwise he did nothing wrong by literally zero's own standards he set.

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well I was personally told by zero a very diff timeline back in the day. this isn't a MMORPG... people have lifes, have bowels, smoke, drink, and sometimes get a phone call. to say "oh you were inactive for 5 minutes" but played the last hour or more and lose seniority is a joke.

Thank you Maynard. Cyber and Scribble were talking to me when this happened. Cyber came into the server and asked Racist if he asked me if i was afk before "assuming" that i was, and racist admitted that he did not ask me so Cyber said "Absolution is senior". I was on the phone at the time and i really like how you put this Maynard

"well I was personally told by zero a very diff timeline back in the day. this isn't a MMORPG... people have lifes, have bowels, smoke, drink, and sometimes get a phone call. to say "oh you were inactive for 5 minutes" but played the last hour or more and lose seniority is a joke"

I was senior with 3.5 hours roughly at the time and i should be allowed a phone call.... it really is a joke if i cant make a phone call without losing seniority.