McSugar Daddy 02/10/2015 15:33

[brett friggin favre]

seriously guys? this constitutes evidence for a ban now?

blue arena is one of the simplest maps in GG. the amount of corners and spots for people to be peeking/hiding is remarkably small compared to maps like deagle, spacetower, lego mafia, etc. because of this, it is very easy to predict where someone will be and when they'll be there. that combined with sound and radar explains everything in the demo. there's nothing here. i have no idea what any of you are seeing in this demo.

walls are not something that's just "obvious from the start" like a parkinsons aimbot or spinbot. individual ticks need to be pointed out and they need to be inexplicable except for using some sort of vision assistance.

"pretty clear from the beginning of the map" - watch what happens almost every single round, especially in the beginning. people go into the middle. several of them. what does he do first round? anticipating that, he goes to the middle, pauses, then peeks late hoping to surprise the enemies. it works. he does that a few more times, but how is any of that evidence when everyone knows that's where people go every round? there are 5 ways to go on this map: up top to the right, up top mid, floor to the left, floor mid, and floor right. every one of these ways has clear sight lines, and with 5 options and 10 people on each side in a full server, guess what, 90% of the time at least one person's gonna go each way. also when your team is winning, the other one will almost always stay at or near their spawn points, behind the big block or on their back ramp. soooooo easy to predict that just by knowing the situation and looking at your radar. that's why blue arena is likely the WORST map to try to catch a waller on, it's so easy to predict enemy movement, and to not even post ticks with all of that stacked against catching a waller is just lazy.

if this ban sticks with nothing more than the evidence posted, it's a clear sign that standards for hacking bans have dropped here. there's nothing in the demo posted.

[ricochet]

Thanks for that valuable piece of insight, Brett. Now, move along please.

OP, no one accused you of shooting through a wall. You have been accused of seeing or sensing players through solid obstructions. There were too many cases where you looked right at a player for no specific reason. I think you're good at what you do.

[lcoleman]

After specing LILY and MINJAE from ibis

Lily.ibis:
4100 Toggles Wallhacks
4440-stares at opponent through wall obvious wallhack and turns as the user turns to shoot him
Would be more but she spends most of her time toggling and then going to spectate.

Minjae.ibis:
2590 and on - tracks user through wall at the top as he is coming out. So it's obvious from the start. Can't be explained by radar. No players from his team team are on that side of the map
3580 - sees user moving up side and turns guns toward him and decides not to not look so he doesn't get caught walling since he's an admin
5980 - stares and tracks user through wall in middle and strafes to match their speed to kill without having to move mouse. Wallhacks confirmed.
6590 - Stares at user that's on the other side of the ramp
7520-7700 - Looks at where all the ts are on the top part of other side of map through wall. Guy on right he ignores since he isn't looking at minjae but the one in tspawn is looking his direction so he goes for him instead.
11400 and other parts - possible bhop scrip detected. This is a gateway hack that leads to walling and triggerbot. Continued use even after the installation and use of other hacks.
11700- THIS IS THE MOST OBVIOUS - Look at how he bhops and as he lands he stares at the opponent on the other side of the map through the wall. Wallhacks definitely confirmed

the only difference I notice between minjae and myself is his reaction is slow... guy sits in front of him at 10300 for a few seconds until he finally decides to move his crosshair towards him to fire. FAR BELOW THE AVERAGE HUMAN REACTION TIME. Probably doesn't realize he's not behind a wall. Other possibility maybe lower spatial awareness or the neurons in his retina that processes moving objects has slower functioning than normal. Could be genetics or lack of sports during childhood development or a tumor on his optic nerve. Get that checked.

And if you want to know why I stop that far to the right. You can see that I have a MAXIMUM right turn radius on most turns throughout the demo. This is due to my 2nd monitor on an arm in front of my printer. I can only move it so far before I hit the monitor. The reason I quickly "flick" left right (too slow to be considered flicking) is because a user to me can pop out behind any wall from the left or right side at any moment. If I had wallhacks I simply wouldn't need to do this. I would just stare at where the user would pop out of all the time. But honestly, I can see why you guys think I wallhack. After years of play from seeing lily and manjae you guys have slow reaction times, really bad aim, and you frequently don't preaim where the user heads will be. Your aim is kind of all over the place. But this is probably because you've always banned good players (since they upset your ego) and never got that valuable experience since you guys only play crap players. Anyway you probably never gave them a chance like you did me since you read what I said but didn't even try to process or understand what I was saying. I can tell from your replies. Have fun with your server, if you want email me for tips. I'll see you guys on CSGO in servers with decent players or ESEA. Well ... you'll see me there.

[I'm a zambi]

After specing LILY and MINJAE from ibis

Lily.ibis:
4100 Toggles Wallhacks
4440-stares at opponent through wall obvious wallhack and turns as the user turns to shoot him
Would be more but she spends most of her time toggling and then going to spectate.

Minjae.ibis:
2590 and on - tracks user through wall at the top as he is coming out. So it's obvious from the start. Can't be explained by radar. No players from his team team are on that side of the map
3580 - sees user moving up side and turns guns toward him and decides not to not look so he doesn't get caught walling since he's an admin
5980 - stares and tracks user through wall in middle and strafes to match their speed to kill without having to move mouse. Wallhacks confirmed.
6590 - Stares at user that's on the other side of the ramp
7520-7700 - Looks at where all the ts are on the top part of other side of map through wall. Guy on right he ignores since he isn't looking at minjae but the one in tspawn is looking his direction so he goes for him instead.
11400 and other parts - possible bhop scrip detected. This is a gateway hack that leads to walling and triggerbot. Continued use even after the installation and use of other hacks.
11700- THIS IS THE MOST OBVIOUS - Look at how he bhops and as he lands he stares at the opponent on the other side of the map through the wall. Wallhacks definitely confirmed

the only difference I notice between minjae and myself is his reaction is slow... guy sits in front of him at 10300 for a few seconds until he finally decides to move his crosshair towards him to fire. FAR BELOW THE AVERAGE HUMAN REACTION TIME. Probably doesn't realize he's not behind a wall. Other possibility maybe lower spatial awareness or the neurons in his retina that processes moving objects has slower functioning than normal. Could be genetics or lack of sports during childhood development or a tumor on his optic nerve. Get that checked.

And if you want to know why I stop that far to the right. You can see that I have a MAXIMUM right turn radius on most turns throughout the demo. This is due to my 2nd monitor on an arm in front of my printer. I can only move it so far before I hit the monitor. The reason I quickly "flick" left right (too slow to be considered flicking) is because a user to me can pop out behind any wall from the left or right side at any moment. If I had wallhacks I simply wouldn't need to do this. I would just stare at where the user would pop out of all the time. But honestly, I can see why you guys think I wallhack. After years of play from seeing lily and manjae you guys have slow reaction times, really bad aim, and you frequently don't preaim where the user heads will be. Your aim is kind of all over the place. But this is probably because you've always banned good players (since they upset your ego) and never got that valuable experience since you guys only play crap players. Anyway you probably never gave them a chance like you did me since you read what I said but didn't even try to process or understand what I was saying. I can tell from your replies. Have fun with your server, if you want email me for tips. I'll see you guys on CSGO in servers with decent players or ESEA. Well ... you'll see me there.

[minjae]

I do wallhack. I need to update my bhop scripts tho. It's been a bit wonky recently.
As for my reaction time. I'm about 98% legally blind.
I play with esp and also....you can't forget about my guide dog...he barks when to shoot.

[phil.™]

I do wallhack. I need to update my bhop scripts tho. It's been a bit wonky recently.

Perma banned, closed.

As for my reaction time. I'm about 98% legally blind.

You should see him tint... Sometimes I'm just like, WTF are you even cutting?

[lcoleman]

LOL I think most of you get the sarcasm. And that the criteria you used to ban me is straight laughable. Honestly if you check those ticks for minjae and compare them to the one he said about me. You'll see major similarities. Coincidence?? Dun Dun Dunnnnnnn

Nice deflect minjae with a joke.

Let me spell it out for you .... neither one of us are hacking. And if you don't read my justification of my "alleged hacking ticks" or of minjae and actually check the demo of minjae (since he is an admin and alleged non hacker and you can see that his criteria for banning me is the same as the ticks I pointed out for him. ) as well then you shouldn't respond and you honestly shouldn't vote. Speaking to the 3 that did.

But minjae you probably won't because like bret said ... you're lazy ... and your ego won't risk you being wrong haha.

BTW thanks bret the voice of reason.

And any admin in any other server would let you upload your files (to a filesharing service) so they can check manually if the files were tampered with ... not just with SMAC ... but I'm guessing by checking creation timestamps... modification timestamps ... etc ... running the files to see if there are wallhacks. IDK the exact methodology because I've never been accused of hacking by any admin before (at least to my "face") in over 11+ years of gameplay (few times in 99' then starting again in 2004 cs1.6 until 2015 css) much longer than anyone here I'm sure. But from what I've seen on various other servers checking files manually is fairly common practice. These things are objective observations and all you have given are subjective.

Since this option was never given to me I'm guessing you are either incompetent, inexperienced, lazy, or banned me for other reasons that you don't wish to disclose

[phil.™]

I'll take a look into this this weekend (most likely Sunday). Slammed up at work, not much time to actually sit down with headphones and get a good look at a demo.

[lcoleman]

Thanks. Take your time. I probably won't play here again. Already deleted from my favorites. I just don't like people blaming me for sh** I don't do and I enjoy disabusing people (of their misconceptions). And I don't want the crap that happened to me here happening to someone else.

[brett friggin favre]

Thanks. Take your time. I probably won't play here again. Already deleted from my favorites. I just don't like people blaming me for sh** I don't do and I enjoy disabusing people (of their misconceptions). And I don't want the crap that happened to me here happening to someone else.

aww don't leave. if it makes you feel any better, this ( http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/sho...811-Check-this) was the start of my time here.