Blade's Mafia Game of Randomness

[brett friggin favre]

While I have reasons to vote for cyber, I will say this: his suspicion of Pass doesn't surprise me at all, even if he ends up being town. In fact, I'd probably be more suspicious if he wasn't suspicious of Pass.

To me though, it seems that lynching cyber might give us more info than he could if he stays alive. My only real worry is that he's a relatively strong role but just hasn't gotten enough use out of it yet, but that's a risk I'm just about willing to take. I'll mull this over and probably come to a decision by tomorrow afternoon or so, depending on what if anything else is said between now and then.

[What]

Woo now I can do a Cyber-esque post, hold onto your butts.

My strategy has always been based on information gather, something which the lynch can help out with tremendously, keep that in mind.

Here is a person by person reading and pros vs cons for lynching.

Nemesis: Quiet, calm, cool, collected. Only pipes in when necessary, similar to last game. Can't read anything into this style, but since he has not said much, his death will not tell much, so no benefit to a lynch.

Mikey: Started out a bit touchy and knee deep in Pass's butt. Since then has backed off and even been critical of Pass's gameplay. Could be an overcorrection on his part, but again, has not brought much to the table, so his death does not give us anything.

Cyber: He has been Cyber, actually a less wall of texty version of Cyber. He has not been pushing hard and has pointed out the same logical inconsistencies that I have, perhaps he was just a bit more aggressive than he should have been? His death, if turns up mafia, good, one down, but does not lead to who might be the other(s). If he shows up town, we are down a role, and Sin seems like a likely target, but aside from that not much can be gleaned. I would not favor a lynch on him at this point for reasons that will be made more clear below.

Stars: Has been acting very odd for my tastes. Seems to not see any issue with his statements not being believed when they don't track logically. "Sin got fruit, therefore he is not a rod." That does not even begin to track, as Nemesis pointed out. Now he seems to have asserted that the fruit vendor thing was a red herring, yet at the same time re-affirming that Sin was not lying. I don't know much about his game, but he doesn't strike me as the type of person to think lying about that is a good strategy. If he is killed, and turns up mafia, well then logically Sin would likely be the other one, though I do not think the two are actually connected like that. If he turns up town, well, again, that doesn't really tell us anything, so no reason to lynch him.

Scribble: Been relatively active for scribble, was the one who first posited a lightning rod, but that seems like a really stupid and easily disprovable gambit for someone to pull in order to benefit mafia. That and the flavor does allow one to read a rod into it. His death, does not seem to yield any solid info.

Sin: He has been a total douche canoe this whole time, not unlike the last game. Is that just because he is fucking around or is that what he does when he is mafia? Things could have progressed a lot quicker and a lot easier if he didn't fruit it up the whole damn time. Last game he tossed a vote at Cyber for similar reasons, but for this game, his reason doesn't seem to actually track. I actually think he might have tossed that out there to see who might try to jump on the wagon. His death, if town, would vindicate a few people, but as of now it would not condemn anyone. For that reason lynching him is only mildly beneficial.

Brett: Almost forgot him again. Has brought little to the table, his death tells us nothing, other than you know, that he is the GF.

Passarelli: He has been the most outspoken about having info to try to guide us. However, he has also been the most eager to get a vote going since the beginning and was the first to jump on the Cyber vote, which was made in the first place for dubious reasons. He also says Cyber is acting like the last game he was in, which was when he was town, so that doesnt strike me as a good logical argument to vote to lynch. His claim of Mod info does not really mean much, since again, that wouldn't be the first time that has happened. People certainly lie and playing off of the Mod was like Nemesis go to strategy for most of his games. I do not get Brett's psychoanalysis of this situation. The language he has been using to describe things and allude to things has made me uneasy from the beginning. I do not know what role he is, but I know some that he is not. His death solidifies the veracity of the things he has said, paints a couple people in a negative light, and would seem to vindicate Stars, and make Mikey and a couple others very unlikely to be mafia. From a sheer information gathering point of view, Pass is the best target for a lynch.

Now, I know some of you are trusting in him now, which is fine, but if no one can bring solid information to the table, our best option is lynching the person that provides the most information. We have numbers, presumably a doctor as well. We can all board the Cyber train, for what I see has really dubious reasons, if we hit mafia, great, if not, well then Sin should be the obvious target. But if you seemingly bought the argument of "Well his posts annoy me" as a legitimate reason to start the train I would have faith that Sin would be able to reason out of being a target the following day.

[Passarelli]

When did I say he was playing similar to last game? (I might have mentioned similarities in how he plays all games)

I voted for Cyber mostly because he still pushed for more info from me, when I had shared more than enough, especially with Sin confirming he isn't a lightning rod.

I've been trying to get some input on possible reasons to lynch someone since the 16th. Considering that this day started on the 11th and hadn't had a single person talk about a lynch after 9 pages, I really don't understand how you see that as "from the beginning". Also, ask around. I always try to get votes going, as wagons (unsuccessful as well as successful) are very useful information for town.

Also, you know that lynching me would paint you in the worst possible light, right? You already pushed me for more information than I was comfortable with sharing.

Finally, please go back through my posts and try reading through the specific language I used that made you "uncomfortable". I chose that language carefully and said what I meant and meant what I said.

[What]

First, I do not know why you and Stars suddenly feel like people need to trust in people's statements so wholeheartedly. Never in any of these games has someone made an obscure or oblique reference to something and not been asked to elaborate. That is what the game requires, not 100 percent belief in what people say, as this is a game based on lying and misinformation. Lets recap all of this information you have somehow been forced to share: You targeted someone with something and got confirmation that it was targeted at that someone. DEAR GOD how did you get forced to give such a scathing report about your powers. Quit acting like a victim. If I felt like I had pushed too hard or gotten too much info from you I would have sat back and let Cyber get offed, or even have encouraged it. You have been obscure with your information and have acted like everyone needs to buy into what you have to say on faith alone, if they question this, then they are doing something wrong. This mentality alone has me the most concerned.
And vote trains pull minimal information. If you target mafia, mafia will vote for the guy since they don't want to look suspicious, you target town, they will vote for town to kill off a good guy.

If no one has concrete info, it boils down to this, if you want to get rid of the guy who objectively has acted the most scummy, then vote Sin. If you want to off the guy who will provide a good deal of info with his death, vote Pass.

[Nemesis]

If no one has concrete info, it boils down to this, if you want to get rid of the guy who objectively has acted the most scummy, then vote Sin. If you want to off the guy who will provide a good deal of info with his death, vote Pass.

What if I want to watch Cyber cry and scream?

[StarsMine]

Its not that you should trust me whole heartily, its that unless sin, pass and I are all mafia, then we were just wasting time.

No one has implied the fruit was a red hearing.

I fail to see how sin has acted scummy at all, now after saying that, I dont know if he is mafia or not, I just know he has not once lied about the fruit. Ill rather vote for him another day if he is mafia.

Pass: This guy to me seems the most town, if he was mafia, he could have created misdirection and misinformation very easily in whatever position he is in. Instead in validated both sin and mine statements.

Scribble: probably town, What's arguments about lightning rod are pretty solid.

Cyber: I cant tell if he is a town idiot or a mafia idiot, I dont know how he does it, but the way he plays always makes me feel like taking him out is not a bad option. Because either faction he is, he ends up misdirecting plays and creates false information that someone has to react to.

Nem: no read
Brett: no read
Mikey: no read
What: like a less obnoxious cyber, but still no read

Right now, im most likely voting for cyber.

[Sin]

How is Cyber pushing on Pass, "dubious" reasoning? Or did you skip over the main reason for that post?

Even still Cyber is pushing this "SENT fruit" bullshit, it's about his 4th post with the same fucking backing. "Durrr but Sin didn't say he RECEIVED da fruit boss! Massa please massa!" But at least he stopped pushing on Pass.

I think I've received fruit in every fucking shitty game with a shitty fruit vendor in it. Stupid role. Fucking stupid.

I don't mind starting wagons. I'm not a little bitch like most of you faggots. Let's get this day over with so I can use my Supreme Overlord Godly powers.

[StarsMine]

Vote Cyber

Still need two votes, I dont really expect a hammer unless both mafia go for him at the same time. Im just putting my money where my mouth is.

[Sin]

Apricots sounds good as fuck right now.

[StarsMine]

I have some apricot preserves in my fridge... might go get some.