Whitey aka YM Beast

[Cougar]

You kicked him for rejoining, then proceeded to ban him when he rejoined from you kicking him. That is blatant abuse. People ARE ALLOWED to rejoin when they are kicked. If someone rejoins, you issue a verbal warning, because kicking them makes no sense because they are in fact allowed to join again if they are kicked. There is no rule stating a kicked player is not allowed back on the server, that is what bans are for.

1) No one cares about their ban from your community for the hacking they do not do.
2) If your members (and every player) would listen, the punishments they receive would appear a lot less.
In a serious of events..
3a) Dinkz team attacked me intentionally while I was on knife level
3b) Dinkz received a warning and a slap
3c) Dinkz rejoins and received a kick
3d) Dinkz rejoins and received another kick
3e) Dinkz rejoins and received a ban

1) Your attitude on the demo shows you actually care so much that you go out of your way to be very bitter.
2) I'm pretty sure GGC members are not playing on ibis to not listen to admins. You are taking 1 incident and trying to lump all of GGC into one category. The bitterness continues.
3) By your logic, anyone that gets kicked should not immediately rejoin the server, because that would end with a ban. That is not how ibis rules work. Maybe you are misinterpreting them. Him knifing you is him being an ass, and does that to a lot of people and has been kicked before for that. Him rejoining is another matter, and you probably should have issued a verbal warning like what the rules say. Quite frankly, kicking someone for rejoining makes no sense. You wrote that you kicked him for rejoining, then you kicked him again after he joined from your first kick, then you banned him after he joined after that 2nd kick. This is blatant abuse or just extreme stupidity.

The demo shows that no one from GGC was saying anything about your ban other than me but only after you continued to be extremely salty about being banned for hacking on GGC. Your attitude needs to change, if someone from GGC plays on ibis, leave what happened on GGC out of ibis servers, ignore the GGC members unless they actually do something to warrant proper punishment, and quit being such a big baby. No one cares that you were banned on GGC, no one wants to hear about it from you, and this thread is not about your ban on GGC. The one that needs to learn to read is you, which is evident when I agreed with a kick if he did in fact rejoin intentionally. But to continue to kick someone when they rejoin from you kicking them, makes no sense at all and is why I made this thread. Dinkz said he lagged out on the demo, there is no way for him to prove that, but it is irrelevant anyway because all an admin sees is a rejoin. If he timed out it would be different, I'd hope, but seeing how you kick people that rejoin after you already kicked them, I'd imagine you would kick them for rejoining if they timed out as well.

Get off your high horse, I've heard plenty of stories about your past, and no, no one should take your word for anything, and no one should believe that you're an upstanding admin that would never abuse.

tl;dr
Kicks spectators because 1 GGC member is in spectate, reason is something along the line of "banned by admin"
Dinkz rejoins, receives a kick.
Dinkz rejoins from being kicked, receives a kick for joining.
Dinkz rejoins from being kicked for rejoining after receiving a kick for rejoining, receives a 10min ban that does not appear on sourcebans.

Sorry whitey, there is sufficient evidence that you are indeed incredibly salty about being banned on GGC and that you are now taking it out on GGC members that frequent ibis. I make sure when you start mic spamming that I player list mute you as well, even though I prefer not to have admins muted in case they pull a shithead on me.

[YM Beast]

You kicked him for rejoining, then proceeded to ban him when he rejoined from you kicking him.

You are clearly missing the point where I both stated and is visible in the demo that he was already warned for team attacking.

That is blatant abuse. People ARE ALLOWED to rejoin when they are kicked.

This is stated where?

If someone rejoins, you issue a verbal warning, because kicking them makes no sense because they are in fact allowed to join again if they are kicked. There is no rule stating a kicked player is not allowed back on the server, that is what bans are for.

Which is why he was banned for 10 minutes after his team attacking and rejoining three times.

1) Your attitude on the demo shows you actually care so much that you go out of your way to be very bitter.

Attitudes have absolutely nothing to do with admin abuse. Should you find my attitude annoying, you are welcome to mute me via the methods I stated in my previous reply. Should you find my attitude offensive, you are welcome to file a temp ban request with the appropriate evidence.

2) I'm pretty sure GGC members are not playing on ibis to not listen to admins. You are taking 1 incident and trying to lump all of GGC into one category. The bitterness continues.

I am taking no incidents and combing them no to categories. All that has been stated is factual occurrences of what goes on during play by play actions. Dinkz just so happened to have your tag on, and you see it as abuse because I apparently have this desperation to play on your server, while there is a perfect, original, stable one right here.

3) By your logic, anyone that gets kicked should not immediately rejoin the server,

Anyone that leaves the server should not rejoin period. If you're going to rejoin, wait in spectate until the next map so the handicap does not kick in.

because that would end with a ban.

After a warning and 3 rejoins, yes, this is a sufficient 10 minute punishment.

That is not how ibis rules work. Maybe you are misinterpreting them.

No misinterpreting. There is a reason I have never had an abuse thread posted on me. I do not abuse, and I follow the rules and carry out the punishments for those that have infractions upon them very well. Every IBIS admin knows this.

Him knifing you is him being an ass, and does that to a lot of people and has been kicked before for that.

Player never knifed me. Player continuously fired his auto sniper directly at me as I faced him after the first time he hit me.

Him rejoining is another matter, and you probably should have issued a verbal warning like what the rules say.

Incorrect. Warnings are issued to individual players. After your first warning (for any infraction), you should want to better yourself immediately so that further action is not taken. His choice was to rejoin (as he did not lag out). I can't help him with his decisions.

Quite frankly, kicking someone for rejoining makes no sense. You wrote that you kicked him for rejoining, then you kicked him again after he joined from your first kick, then you banned him after he joined after that 2nd kick. This is blatant abuse or just extreme stupidity.

I don't make the rules. I follow them and enforce them with no if and or but. Friend or not, anyone that breaks the rules receives the same fair treatment as deemed by the extremely well outlined TOS and rules.

The demo shows that no one from GGC was saying anything about your ban other than me but only after you continued to be extremely salty about being banned for hacking on GGC. Your attitude needs to change, if someone from GGC plays on ibis, leave what happened on GGC out of ibis servers, ignore the GGC members unless they actually do something to warrant proper punishment, and quit being such a big baby.

As I had originally stated -- an attitude, bitter, raw, polite, or "salty", has absolutely no grounds within "admin abuse". I see no abuse as punishments were carried out within reason, and a fair suspension of the player was served. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I was not the only admin on the server as there were plenty of witnesses, no one has anything to say about this besides you.

No one cares that you were banned on GGC, no one wants to hear about it from you, and this thread is not about your ban on GGC. The one that needs to learn to read is you, which is evident when I agreed with a kick if he did in fact rejoin intentionally. But to continue to kick someone when they rejoin from you kicking them, makes no sense at all and is why I made this thread.

We've had players PERMANENTLY banned for rejoining. He received his first ban for 10 minutes, for rejoining THREE times, after he was ALREADY WARNED for team attacking. Please, do understand that you are missing the entire point of why he earned himself a kick instead of a slay for his first rejoin. All he had to do was wait - the map was over in another 4 minutes. Those 4 minutes could have saved him 14 minutes, which eventually led to him giving up and not coming back. I watch over every single player that has ever broken a rule in their past playtime on IBIS. I look at their previous bans as soon as they join the server, whether they have 1, 5, 10, or 60.

Dinkz said he lagged out on the demo, there is no way for him to prove that, but it is irrelevant anyway because all an admin sees is a rejoin. If he timed out it would be different, I'd hope, but seeing how you kick people that rejoin after you already kicked them, I'd imagine you would kick them for rejoining if they timed out as well.

This is incorrect, especially for a matter of the engine.
Those that lag out do not immediately reconnect. They receive a 25 second server disconnection time-out, which, if the connection is resolved during the time-out, they are reconnected without ever having to rejoin. It does not state that they left the game.
Dinkz on the other hand decided to immediately disconnect and come back. I notice this, after he was already warned for team attacking, and he is kicked.

Get off your high horse, I've heard plenty of stories about your past, and no, no one should take your word for anything, and no one should believe that you're an upstanding admin that would never abuse.

Posting an abuse thread and telling me to "get off my high horse" have nothing to do with each other, nor does it make you look any better. In fact, it is making this situation a lot worse, and will only lead to you eventually causing a problem within the server after this "abuse" is either deemed true or false. It happens every time.

tl;dr
Kicks spectators because 1 GGC member is in spectate, reason is something along the line of "banned by admin"
Dinkz rejoins, receives a kick.
Dinkz rejoins from being kicked, receives a kick for joining.
Dinkz rejoins from being kicked for rejoining after receiving a kick for rejoining, receives a 10min ban that does not appear on sourcebans.

Sorry whitey, there is sufficient evidence that you are indeed incredibly salty about being banned on GGC and that you are now taking it out on GGC members that frequent ibis. I make sure when you start mic spamming that I player list mute you as well, even though I prefer not to have admins muted in case they pull a shithead on me.

tl;dr
ShiqueGeek asked that we get rid of spectators as the server was full and no one could join. I typed out in chat for edible to join, waited, and he never did. He was then kicked. I have two kick macros. One is ban, one is a kick. I suppose I hit the wrong one, which resulted in him seeing an odd reason. The idea of the macros is to kick those that are banned. Typing !ban playername time reason in chat, does not result in what is called a "kickban". It is only logged. To get rid of those that I need to ban immediately (such as teamkillers), all I have to do is type !kick name/@spec/etc and hit one key for the reason. I must have hit the wrong macro that supplied the reason and did not notice, however rest assured player is not punished and was only kicked for being AFK, and my incorrect reason was an accident, while he was still taking up a player slot and kicked for it. I do apologize for the misunderstanding on that one.