Mafia Game: Donner Party 2: Don Harder

[BladeTwinSwords]

I've honestly become so used to Town of Salem and not voting Day 1.

[Blackmage]

Blade: From my that usually happens because everyone's too busy dicking around though... Ohhhh.

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*my experience

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...Reasoning? I'm clearly scum.

Look I can edit your quotes too! See evidence of things!

Your vote on me was a clear over reaction on your part, you can try to play it off as you were just being an idiot, but you can't cover your ass well. You have done more than enough to warrant close attention over the next days, but it seems like you are just eager to dig your grave as fast as possible.

[Blackmage]

...I used YOUR post where you claimed someone did what you just did. It's funny because you're a hypocrite. Sadly, jokes stop being as funny when you have to explain them. However, when you're talking to someone who seems to not speak English as his first language, sometimes it doesn't work.

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You added a word to my post.....I used your post too, are you that stupid?

You fucked up, and the proof is you didn't follow your own plan. You just advocated again, sticking to the train and lynching since we can't trust anyone's claims. You had the chance to hammer Cyber, follow your own plan and let us bask in your genius, instead, you got uneasy when you realized you were not as clever as you hoped and you voted me. Talk about being a hypocrite BM you are the embodiment of that right now.

[Blackmage]

Are you really this stupid, or do you just do it for the lulz? My plan was we DECIDE someone to lynch. I did not say bloody wagon the first person to get some votes. Play the game like normal, but once we have a target show them no mercy. Once again, you're trying to put words in my mouth. Given you're so fond of this, why did you complain about Cyber doing it?

Also, the difference is I didn't change the message at all. I just called you a hypocrite. You just put words in my mouth... Which was actually the exact thing I was saying, so it just proves my point.

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Note: I didn't "add a word". I changed a name, which I helpfully bolded too, so it would be OBVIOUS I changed it, but logic to hard.

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(and yes, wrong too on purpose there)

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My bad, by decide you meant talk and vote for someone......or what this game already is. Good work. You have essentially trapped yourself on day 1 completely unprovoked BM so really showing off the smarts. You can't say the problems I had with your plan was putting words in your mouth and then completely agree with that criticism later when its convenient. I said an unflinching railing of someone was terrible and had the potential to severly hurt the town, then you said we cant trust anyone's claim we have to just follow through. Now you are saying we shouldnt just follow through. You are just nitpicking with your use of the word decide since if 5 people vote for one person, looks like a decision has been made, or would you prefer a vote before the vote?

even with what you said there "i didnt change the message at all." Then seconds later, "I changed the name." Its like you can't help but put your foot in your mouth.

[Blackmage]

My bad, by decide you meant talk and vote for someone......or what this game already is. Good work.

Thanks. I try. However, that's not what I said. I just said skip the "give them a chance to defend themselves" phase for day 1.

You have essentially trapped yourself on day 1 completely unprovoked BM so really showing off the smarts.

You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? You've beaten my giant, which means you're exceptionally strong, so you could've put the poison in your own goblet, trusting on your strength to save you, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But, you've also bested my Spaniard, which means you must have studied, and in studying you must have learned that man is mortal, so you would have put the poison as far from yourself as possible, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.

You can't say the problems I had with your plan was putting words in your mouth and then completely agree with that criticism later when its convenient.

Good thing I didn't then.

I said an unflinching railing of someone was terrible and had the potential to severly hurt the town

That's relevant how? When did I say anything about "unflinching railing".

then you said we cant trust anyone's claim we have to just follow through.

Yes, that's my point.

Now you are saying we shouldnt just follow through.

This is you. This is my mouth. These are words. These are the words being shoved in my mouth by you. I never said that.

You are just nitpicking with your use of the word decide since if 5 people vote for one person, looks like a decision has been made, or would you prefer a vote before the vote?

Let's look at what I said.

Once we choose someone, we pretty much have to lynch them D1. With no protection, and pretty much every NK being janitored, a good bluff would screw us. However, step one is deciding who to go for. We'll probably hit town day one, but the vote will be at least half town no matter what. The town has a few weapons, we need to use them.

"Once we choose someone, we pretty much have to lynch them D1." You seem to have only read the part after the comma. However, I started by saying "once we choose someone", not once someone has votes. I know this is confusing, but bear with me. My point was, once we chose someone, there is no claim that can let them live.

"With no protection, and pretty much every NK being janitored, a good bluff would screw us." This is what I went into in more detail above. There is no claim that is safe to let live.

"However, step one is deciding who to go for." Oh look, I said DECIDE. Not "I'm going to vote for whomever gets the most votes."

"We'll probably hit town day one, but the vote will be at least half town no matter what." This is me saying there are risks, but town needs to decide. People deciding on their own rather than playing follow the leader means town had some REASON to vote for someone. Playing follow the leader only works if the leader is trustworthy. Which is why I didn't vote for Cyber. The only people who gave any reasons were Scribble, whose only contribution towards the game has been pushing Cyber, and you, who was pushing me while putting words in my mouth. The one mafia I brought up? It is a possibility. There were 3 factions, so removing a player from a faction ends with... get this... 3 different results, one of which is a single mafiaso. However, I brought the one mafiaso up in parenthesis, saying only if the mod is doing something rude. I'm also the one who brought up daytalk, which means I don't think it's one mafia. Basically, your reasons for suspecting me is something you decided I said, and something that I brought up to be thorough. Oh, and calling you on your Freudian slip. Which, you were oddly defensive about, come to think of it...

"The town has a few weapons, we need to use them." This is me pushing for the Vig to shoot and for us to not NL in case anyone brought that option up.

even with what you said there "i didnt change the message at all." Then seconds later, "I changed the name." Its like you can't help but put your foot in your mouth.

The MESSAGE. As in "you put words in my mouth". Not the exact words. I know, I know, English is hard.

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Its like your the Donald Trump of Mafia, just deny, deny, deny like it never happened and I can't be the only one seeing this.

There fundamentally is a disconnect here, especiially when you keep denying having said things that you have. Maybe not in the exact same words, but the same thing none the less.

Who gets to make the decision in your plan? You alone? Do you have to agree with the decision to make it the decision? You are acting like you are the mayor of the town and get to be the "decider" of how things go, which is laughable. You are flailing like a mad man trying to cling to semantics. People had decided, Cyber was going to be lynched, even if it was out of boredom or poorly thought out. You "decided" to not follow your own plan because you got spooked and look at all the vacillating you have had to do to pretend that wasn't the case.

You decided to not follow your own plan = fact. You can play with words all you like, but reality doesn't lie.

I mean pretty much you have screwed yourself for no reason, which I can take great delight in. Please now argue with me about the definition of "is" and how "reality" is just subjective. Thats not suspicious at all.

[Blackmage]

5 people had decided. Which is not even half. Dunno if you can do math.