you has a point there well fine i'll get fraps ready to record some high quality cade fail but your right i guess i am useless like the many other ppl who complain about cade breaking makes me sad :'( thats the punishment for playing on public servers but someday i will record cade fail in the making also i wonder who is that timeleft spammer we had i think he was using a script from fpsbanana.com he was on today and made the server lag to hell i'll try to get zero to maybe check the logs but as i say i'm just a useless pawn