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    Default Earlier issue with Autumn

    First I want to say this is not a thread to really reopen an already closed issue and this is not in anyway to ask for punishment or any type of retribution. I was unable to post this in the other topic as it was closed and it was recommended to me by friends that I do post this. I simply only want to give my side to what happened earlier concerning the issue between Clone, Autumn and myself.

    As you know I was muted and banned. I feel unfairly but that of course has again been settled and I appreciate all the help. It was in Roy Highway. http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1508 , that will explain it. Basically I just want to say that I've carved quite a niche in the server, most regard me as an asshole and that's fair because thats how I choose to represent myself, not to be malicious but simply to be funny and cynical and not everyone thinks so and that's fair of them to feel that way. They shouldn't feel wrong for it. What happened however earlier I feel was wrong.

    I'm not here to label Autumn a bitch or anything. To the point she muted me because she felt I was a disrespectful to her which she often grasps for anytime she deals with me. Maybe sometimes she's right but this time she was wrong. Earlier as a spectator she mentioned she need to find her invincible cade, Myself and Ethugs found her as zombies and we got into the cade and I tagged her. She preceded to swear, call us fuckers and shits.

    Now keep in mind I have no problem with what she said, while technically it was disrepectful I did not and still don't look at it in any other way then her having fun. I then preceded to playfully mock her in a high voice about the cade being invincible. Now unfortunately I'm a little sketchy on what else was said, I veiwed the demo but couldnt hear myself or Autumn during the important part.

    She then muted me for disrespect which technically it was, I wont deny that. My problem is that she was disrespectful as well but it was ok for her cause she's an admin. I didn't complain on her being disrespectful because I believd then just as I do now that it was all in good fun but I believe fairness is important.

    Clone unmuted me for that reason, I know people got onto him saying he shouldnt have, I disagree, not simply because it was me he unmuted but because he felt that all joking aside, it was unfair and instead of simply "following the rules" and allowing it, he chose to do somethin to right a wrong. He shouldnt be punished for that. My problem with Autumn is the same with these rules, they're black and white, Admins dont take the time to notice the grey areas, you can't punish someone fo disrespecting you if you disrespect them first. Several minutes went by and Clone and another user stated that I had been muted long enough, Autumn then simply threatned Clone " Unmute him again and see what happens" he did so and I was banned an hour. I did not to run to anyone for help, they chose to help me and I was banned to punish them, a punishment neither of us deserved.

    She said that when I'm told to quit, I don't. The previous map was Salon Moon, I was talking to someone and jokingly said my mom is 52 and plays on this server, her name is Autumn. Autumn responded back something like "Ripper I know you love me and all but lay off please". I did not say one other word to her and she can confirm that. There have been times when I'm talking to someone else and Autumn will chime in with something serious and sometimes something thats considered to be a rude remark even when I'm not talking to her or about her but I dont take it as her being disrespectful or maicious toward me, she's just playing a round, making small talk, being civil.

    I dont think she should lose her admin and I dont think Clone or Mastagunz should be punished for what they did. I appreciate their help and all the others who suggested I type this and who stuck up for me. I know there will be people to come in here and call me an asshole and thats fine, you dont know me anymore then I know you. You won't know me anymore then I know you and in turn our lives will still be exactly the same. For those who did stick up for me it means alot.

    I'm sorry this is so long, I just wanted it to be thorough and as fair to myself as it is to Autumn. She's not a bad person but she is a bad admin, she shouldnt lose it as with anything, she'll learn because its important to her. I'm not the ideal player and shouldnt be considered so but I deserve the same fairness that she does. I'm not above the law, I get punished for it when I do break the rules but one thing I'm not known for is to be a constant offender.

    Also sorry to add this but I'm not well regarded here and that's my fault as I allow myself to be seen as someone who doesn't take things seriously, as such I come off as a jerk, some people rightly avoid me, others take the time to get to know me and I hope I reward them in showing that I'm just here to have fun and goof around but when they need to talk to me as a person, they can and that I'll treat them respectfully. I'm not on this server to cause problems, this is for fun, If I make friends then I'm happy but I have no real desire to make enemies. Some people will say they don't care at all what others think and that's not all together bad but if anything you should care that people can at least see you as someone who can be decent and respectful when the time truly calls for it. If you need to truly discuss anything with me or talk with me then I promise I'll take it seriously.

    Thanks for letting me post this.
    Last edited by EVL_Ripper; 06-15-2009 at 11:44 PM.

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