Yeah helms deep map is very fun not as much running more defending only problem is ibis is class zombie server and wont work with most escape maps cuz everyone just dies over n over and and somehow that is all we play most of the time.... Anyway only way i think Helms deep would work is if no one used the Fast/Pred zombies and prolly would not need a Ztele when zombie spawned if they were restricted But if they are not fast ruins everyone and pred is to hard to see when its a dark map and no flashlights.