Punishment Park (Film)

[anex]

Oh dear god please tell me you are kidding.

Do you know the history of the world or do I have quote it for you? Government doesn't care about you. Never has never will. They only want more power.

Take a look at Bush. Saddam Hussein, who was the dictator in the middle east and had dominance over oil, was wanting to start trading in Euros. Just like if China was to start trading in another currency, would help ruin the dollar as is stood. He saw the decline of value in the dollar and decide to trade in something worth more value, the Euro. Then 9/11 happens and it is said that Osama did it. Americans get upset and want to invade. Reminiscent of Nazi Germany and their invasion of Poland? We then invade the middle eat "looking" for Weapons of mass destruction. We never found any. Then we are told that Saddam is harboring Osama so we go after him. Kill him and still no Osama or WMDs. Later we find out that Osama was an ally of the us and fought along side us in previous wars. We still can't find the mother fucker and now we have pissed off a lot of Iraqis and Pakistanis by invading their homeland.

America is trying to expand its authority and influence to other countries that it has no business in. Imperialism. We also have the man who supports America in power. So its likeley that he will keep trading in the dollar. All thanks to 9/11.

Isn't this starting to resemble past historical events?



Bah, back on topic, bitte.

[Christmas]

Do you know the history of the world or do I have quote it for you? Government doesn't care about you. Never has never will. They only want more power.

Some evidence that the US government carried out/had a hand in the 9/11 attacks would be nice.

Take a look at Bush. Saddam Hussein, who was the dictator in the middle east and had dominance over oil, was wanting to start trading in Euros. Just like if China was to start trading in another currency, would help ruin the dollar as is stood. He saw the decline of value in the dollar and decide to trade in something worth more value, the Euro.

Cool story bro.

Then 9/11 happens and it is said that Osama did it.

Well he did admit to it, but I guess he was brainwashed?

Americans get upset and want to invade. Reminiscent of Nazi Germany and their invasion of Poland?

Reminiscent of Pearl Harbor. The US didn't blame a religion for anything, didn't send a single race in concentration camps, there was no mass genocide of innocent civilians in those non-existent camps, etc etc.

We then invade the middle eat "looking" for Weapons of mass destruction. We never found any.

The majority of politicians (republican and democrat, including Hillary Clinton and Al Gore) believed that Saddam either had WMDs or was aggressively attempting to access them.

Then we are told that Saddam is harboring Osama so we go after him. Kill him and still no Osama or WMDs. Later we find out that Osama was an ally of the us and fought along side us in previous wars. We still can't find the mother fucker and now we have pissed off a lot of Iraqis and Pakistanis by invading their homeland.

1. The "saddam is harboring Osama" was a blatant falsehood.
2. Osama was part of the Afghanistani resistance in the Cold War. That doesn't make is okay for him to conspire to kill thousands of Americans. Pointless
3. We have also pleased a lot of Iraqis and Pakistanis, but that has nothing to do with 9/11, so I digress.

America is trying to expand its authority and influence to other countries that it has no business in. Imperialism. We also have the man who supports America in power. So its likeley that he will keep trading in the dollar. All thanks to 9/11.

Isn't this starting to resemble past historical events?

Bah, back on topic, bitte.

Sorry, if you honestly are going to believe that the US government had a hand in 9/11 based on "History told me so" then you shouldn't even be recommending any kind of movie to any of us.

In other words: you are fucking retarded and should GTFO.

[walterbrunswick]

@ anex

This argument with Christmas is pointless.

He's thick-headed (as we've seen him display with Autumn).

You present facts and historical basis and logic; he dismisses it with a one-liner "Cool story bro."

@ Christmas

It might be hard for you to accept certain truths, such as that the government uses people and only wants power and money.

Until you accept this, YOU are fucking naive and should GTFO.

[Christmas]

@ anex

This argument with Christmas is pointless.

He's thick-headed (as we've seen him display with Autumn).

You present facts and historical basis and logic; he dismisses it with a one-liner "Cool story bro."

@ Christmas

It might be hard for you to accept certain truths, such as that the government uses people and only wants power and money.

Until you accept this, YOU are fucking naive and should GTFO.

History does not prove that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by the United States, or even planned.


Until you can give me proof that shows the attacks at the World Trade Center, Pentagon, and Shanskville were by our own government, then you can't prove anything.

I'm not saying the government isn't greedy or uses people or whatever. But you can't say that the government carried out the attacks because they are greedy.

Some evidence, please. Of course you can't even get a fucking greencard, so this may be a difficult task for someone like you.

[walterbrunswick]

There is evidence. What about that missile that landed in the Pentagon?

Or that plane in Pennsylvania? No evidence of it?

Building 7 in NYC?

Who taught the terrorists how to pilot commercial airliners?

What about the very structured fall of the Twin Towers?

Or the fact that only 40% of the building was occupied? Or the practice drills they had the few weeks before?

...I know it's a sickening thought, just unbelievable, and a liberal thinker would never think that the government would do something like this, and it scares me...


As for the Green Card, just a phone call away. I'm going to call my friend this week.

[๖ReS]

My entire fucking country scares me.

[loka]

My entire fucking country scares me.

your face scares me. :O

[Christmas]

There is evidence. What about that missile that landed in the Pentagon?

http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

Assuming it would be financially smart to use a missile to replicate the damage a plane would cause and dispose of the plane and the passengers without anyone knowing.

Or that plane in Pennsylvania? No evidence of it?

Read above.

http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/flight93page1

Building 7 in NYC?

http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/introduction

What about the very structured fall of the Twin Towers?

Well it was a structure. Ask NIST. They wrote a paper on it.

Or the fact that only 40% of the building was occupied?

And?

Or the practice drills they had the few weeks before?

Do you even know how long it takes to rig up a tower with explosives? This is with a much smaller, gutted building, with 100% access by many engineers.


Also, compare the explosions.

WARNING: THIS VIDEO INCLUDES THE COLLAPSE OF THE SOUTH TOWER OF THE WOrLD TRADE CENTER

...I know it's a sickening thought, just unbelievable, and a liberal thinker would never think that the government would do something like this, and it scares me...


As for the Green Card, just a phone call away. I'm going to call my friend this week.[/FONT]

Good for you and the green card.

[loka]

Actually, during the 70's when a certain president was hell bent on Communist Russia, we provided weapons to a certain group of people in the Middle East. At that time they were not Al-Qaeda, but those same people today still have those weapons we provided to get rid of Russian occupation in the Middle East.

I suggest taking a Terrorism and Homeland Security course in college even if Criminal Justice isn't your major. Terrorism has been around long before the Holy Crusades. People look at the Roman and Persian empires to justify terrorism or reasons to go to war. However, people look at those as dynasties. I look at those times as tyrants who wanted to wipe out an entire race (genocide) and to this day terrorism is still rampant. Our history NO MATTER WHAT justifies it rightfully or wrongly.