Well the zm is 41/41 right now, and I do not see that changing much in the next year especially now that this year unlike last year I can really put in some time to upgrade everything. Also noobs are always going to be around unless you make a private server. With our leadership in new technology along with the strength of the IBIS community we will weather any storm and I can say that the economic climate has resulted in far greater losses than any split off has in the last 3 years. I really do not mind anyone making there own server and what not as long as they are not using IBIS for recruiting. In the end it only makes the CS:S community stronger as better servers are provided. Logically if people like what IBIS is going they will copy some stuff and similarly if I like what they do I am likely to copy and modify it. It is a free market and competition makes everyone stronger. On a side note I hope that they add there server to zmtop50.com to help track its progress. It is a good way to help chart growth and get a better way of seeing how changes impact the server. Because it tracks unique hits and total hits it can also be used to create a breakdown of loyalty and to see how effective new strategies are at attracting players.