This is madness

[loka]

in response to what people were saying about religion. i thought these were interesting, especially coming from thomas jefferson:

"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity."


"My opinion is that there would never have been an infidel, if there had never been a priest. The artificial structures they have built on the purest of all moral systems, for the purpose of deriving from it pence and power, revolts those who think for themselves, and who read in that system only what is really there."


-Thomas Jefferson

Our founding fathers never built this country on the intentions of finding religion. That was the Puritans on the Mayflower.

Yet again Jefferson was an intellect. Not a drone devoured by his faith.

[uuntiltheendd]

Our founding fathers never built this country on the intentions of finding religion. That was the Puritans on the Mayflower.

Yet again Jefferson was an intellect. Not a drone devoured by his faith.

yupp.

[Christmas]

I actually thought it was a well made video with good points and facts. I don't know how I feel about the video being shown to children, because it kinda seems to me like it's brainwashing them to think a certain way (only because it's extremely bias), but it doesn't mean that the video is absolute shit.

I think the critique of the video sums up how "shitty" it actually is quite nicely.

I think he could have added more to prove his point, but his point was valid nonetheless.

[ZERO]

I am not comparing them to the past where gov used religion it starts as that and then they move to replace it with the state. If you study what Germany did the same was true. If they had won the war it would only be a few more years before organized religion was removed. Take for example the following religious lyrics taught to children:

Silent night! Holy night!
All is calm, and all is bright
Only the Chancellor steadfast in fight
Watches o’er Germany by day and by night
Always caring for us.
Silent night! Holy night!
All is calm, and all is bright
Adolf Hitler is Germany’s wealth
Brings us greatness, favour and health
Oh give us Germans all power!

This is a prayer TO hitler note that it is not for him but to him because lets face it what is the difference between him and god in a nation where the state will replace the divine:

Leader, my Leader,
given to me by God,
protect me and sustain my life for a long time
you have rescued Germany out of deepest misery,
to you I owe my daily bread
Leader, my Leader,
my belief, my light
Leader my Leader,
do not abandon me

I am not trying to say anything about organized religion but what I am saying is that replacing a "higher power" with the state is the quickest way to lose your liberty.

Other than that religion has little to do with this topic. I was merely trying to demonstrate the links between past and current fascistic methods of indoctrination.

Here is some food for though: could you imagine what would happen if teachers wanted to show a video that demonstrated the fact that socialism has failed to work in every single nation that has used it. From the national socialism of the Nazis to the better known and more direct controlled methods of the soviets it has failed time and time again. Our current economic problems are a fine example of what happens when you try to dabel in socialism, let us not forget that one of the largest contributing factors to the housing crisis was made by our governments push for low income housing claiming that the American deam is to be given to everyone. This was accomplished though the community investment act and though changes in Fani may and Freddy mack that allowed them to buy junk bonds and repackage those as investment bonds rated for 0% risk.

We have all seen how people with money use that money to create small business that provide 70%+ of our gdp yet those "evil rich people" constantly need to "give there fair share". I guess creating and providing all those jobs was not enough was it? Our gov constantly wants to "spread the wealth around" yet I have never known a poor man to give me a job. At the same time this same gov enables big business so are they really for the little guy or is a few large corporations easier to control than small independent companies. This same strategy was implemented in Germany as one of the ideals of fascism, that being a form of corporatism. Germany unlike the USSR brought corporations under the wings of government so that they could be used to help enforce the govs ideals and act as a defense for the gov. Unlike in the USSR where the state business could do something bad in Germany companies that were found to do something wrong were suddenly separate from the gov similar to how Fani may and Freddy mack suddenly have no relation to the US gov as soon as problems arise.

As for the comments on the tides foundation, yes I do know exactly who they are and no the content is not surprising given that it is from an organization such as that. Maybe they could team up with their friends at acorn and make a video about the benefits of child prostitution over buying lunch at burger king.


As far as the content of the video goes there would be almost as much truth in me telling kids that if they jump off a building after taking acid a unicorn will come and let them fly around. While it is possible that this event may occur in their mind as they fall to there death it does not make the event actually real. Just like repeating lies over and over again does not alter the reality of their non existence.

[-=Toy=-=Québec=-FR]

Could someone explain basically the video? please xD?

[Christmas]

Could someone explain basically the video? please xD?

Corporate America is killing everyone, we need to go green, insert green peace and leftist dogma here, yada yada.

Also:

[yours' truely]

just watched the original vid, not the critiques.

I've got to say that they do a good job with making the presentation easy to follow and they do a good job of 'outlining' the very 'basic' process; but yes, it's very one sided with it's negativety and spiteful commentary on todays society.

This shouldn't be shown to kids in a public school system. This should be shown at adult settings and the such.

What is next, having children be told that the founding fathers are nuts and that we should follow the likes of Chavez and Ahmadineja!?

not to argue this point, but just to point out:


I speculate that at the time, the british viewed the US leaders in a very similar light that the US views leaders like Chavez, Ahmadineja and and even Castro.

With as much time that has passed from the American Independance what fact have been altered or misinterpreted either intentionally or accidentally... the same could happen with Chavez and Ahmadineja.

Heck, Castro is already being seen in a much more positive light over what he was 15 or 20 years ago.

I don't want to grow up and be old with a generation of punk ass kids high on meth, stealing my money, collecting food stamps, taking government health care (and other hand outs) and bitching about having to pay taxes (oh shit no wait I already live in that world)... Lets be the smart minority that allows ourselves to be out raged by this... it may not be the problem but its this kind of blind ideology we are bombarded with every day that affect the lowest common denominator (aka stupid people).

I DO!!! I say let the mentally weak and easily influenced ppl be systematically eliminated by their own habits so I can have a better chance on top.

Sure, with more crime, my survival may not be ensured, but hey that's life.

[uuntiltheendd]

well the way things are in this world, i wouldnt mind if something actually did happened to us all in 2012...

[yours' truely]

well the way things are in this world, i wouldnt mind if something actually did happened to us all in 2012...

diet dr peppers will taste more llike regular dr peppers.

[uuntiltheendd]

diet dr peppers will taste more llike regular dr peppers.

:O
and i hope they can find out how to kill that extra .01% of germs! that would be awesomeeeee!