This is madness

[loka]

yea that video was stupid.
and lies are being taught at public schools every day.

i was taught a penis went inside a vagina. that surely was a damn lie in my book.

[Christmas]

i was taught a penis went inside a vagina. that surely was a damn lie in my book.

If you want to repopulate the planet, not so much.

Also a teacher does not have to ask for a note every time they play a video. That is only required when it comes to mature content such as sex education or graphic violence.

Also parents cannot know everything a child is learning, and cannot be held responsible for everything the public school does.

[mastercheff]

from the famous words of spartan leonidas this is sparta that video was fucking stupid i learn more from here than damn school

[ZERO]

Castro, is not in a more positive light. The only thing that has changed is the people who believe in his ideology have grown in power and influence. Mussolini was also cast in a "good" light by early progressives (ironically the same people who love Castro so much). It was not until he allied with Hitler that he suddenly way bad. (well not his ideas, just him?)

The fact is that none of those men are good the only thing is that people try to put a smiley face on them. Once again tying it to the Nazis; who cares if your killing Jews as long as it makes you feel good. This logic is predominant in an array of propaganda, do not mind the facts, the actions or the results just do what "feels right" and how do you know what feels right well that is easy! It is what ever your told "feels right".

A classic example today is the people who have all that stuff with Che on it. Would a reasonable person put the image of a Marxist revolutionary who killed countless people. Apparently it is just fine if it is just a harmless image of Che, want to read a short on who Che really is: http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1535

Remember that at the end of the day the only thing that matter is what the TRUTH is. If our nation is to remain it must stay founded in principles and facts not lies and deception.

[loka]

You truly miss the point in why 'El Che' is used as a popular cultural symbol. Of course in Latin America he is respected in other ways. Not necessarily because of his politics and involvement with the communist party for the cause of the Cuban Revolution or the fact that he was a guerrilla who hated American influence in Latin America.

I mean really, what has American involvement in Latin American caused? Puerto Rico's inability to choose between independence or statehood, many engineering factories moving to Mexico for cheap labor leaving many of those unemployed in the U.S. Citgo oil is owned by the Venezuelan government, Panama Canal, i could go on, but the point is America has shitted on Latin America assuming they are poorly educated and not well read.

Can't say I blame Guevarra for going on the brink of becoming America's target after the Bay of Pigs incident. What terrified the U.S. about Cuba was only that their distance to the U.S. border (90 minutes away).

Read Guerilla Warfare. This manual was given to every soldier he recruited, and to peasants in Latin America to take action. The basis of the book is surrounded with a ton of military practices. I had to read all 49 pages of this article for a Terrorism class along with a redacted Al-Qaeda manual my professor obtained. They use American influence on their soil to empower their hate.

One of my cousins idolizes what Guevarra did. Not because he was a communist. It was because he spoke to a minority of people who wanted change in their surroundings. It's how people obtain and use that information as a weapon or as an influence to better themselves. I use Che as being an influence that a Latino can be as smart and well read as white people believe a Hispanic person to be.

[ZERO]

You truly miss the point in why 'El Che' is used as a popular cultural symbol. Of course in Latin America he is respected in other ways. Not necessarily because of his politics and involvement with the communist party for the cause of the Cuban Revolution or the fact that he was a guerrilla who hated American influence in Latin America.

I mean really, what has American involvement in Latin American caused? Puerto Rico's inability to choose between independence or statehood, many engineering factories moving to Mexico for cheap labor leaving many of those unemployed in the U.S. Citgo oil is owned by the Venezuelan government, Panama Canal, i could go on, but the point is America has shitted on Latin America assuming they are poorly educated and not well read.

Can't say I blame Guevarra for going on the brink of becoming America's target after the Bay of Pigs incident. What terrified the U.S. about Cuba was only that their distance to the U.S. border (90 minutes away).

Read Guerilla Warfare. This manual was given to every soldier he recruited, and to peasants in Latin America to take action. The basis of the book is surrounded with a ton of military practices. I had to read all 49 pages of this article for a Terrorism class along with a redacted Al-Qaeda manual my professor obtained. They use American influence on their soil to empower their hate.

One of my cousins idolizes what Guevarra did. Not because he was a communist. It was because he spoke to a minority of people who wanted change in their surroundings. It's how people obtain and use that information as a weapon or as an influence to better themselves. I use Che as being an influence that a Latino can be as smart and well read as white people believe a Hispanic person to be.

Under this logic I say that we need images of Hitler and Stalin and Nero everywhere! These people also just wanted to help people change there surroundings. I mean who cares what they did do as long as we only think about the good that they wanted to do. I mean we should all put the swastika on because that symbol really means unity and happiness.

Is it ok for me to go up to a group of black people with KKK stuff becuase I believe that KKK symbols are an influence that Black people can overcome any obstetrical and achieve freedom? No, that would be totally incorrect. It is as I said before, the TRUTH matters and while man can reason away anything it does not change what the facts are. You can look at a mountain from many places but every time it is still a mountain.

[Christmas]

Under this logic I say that we need images of Hitler and Stalin and Nero everywhere! These people also just wanted to help people change there surroundings. I mean who cares what they did do as long as we only think about the good that they wanted to do. I mean we should all put the swastika on because that symbol really means unity and happiness.

Is it ok for me to go up to a group of black people with KKK stuff becuase I believe that KKK symbols are an influence that Black people can overcome any obstetrical and achieve freedom? No, that would be totally incorrect. It is as I said before, the TRUTH matters and while man can reason away anything it does not change what the facts are. You can look at a mountain from many places but every time it is still a mountain.

I think the term "The ends don't justify the means" works pretty well for what you are saying.

[yours' truely]

Getcha, do you seriously press shift everytime you capitalize the first and sometimes other letters in a word... for ever word?

Castro, is not in a more positive light. The only thing that has changed is the people who believe in his ideology have grown in power and influence. Mussolini was also cast in a "good" light by early progressives (ironically the same people who love Castro so much). It was not until he allied with Hitler that he suddenly way bad. (well not his ideas, just him?)

the spin that makes everyones' statements true is perspective. Seeing these ppl as bad/evil is the general US perspective while other perspectives may be the opposite. I'm sure that the people that have come to power and influence that you've refered to are changing their target's perspective.

Remember that at the end of the day the only thing that matter is what the TRUTH is. If our nation is to remain it must stay founded in principles and facts not lies and deception.

On a more philisophical lvl... Who can really say what is true? The majority gets to decide what's true and the minority will get labled as false.


Also, just to point out...
I'm not saying anything you say is wrong, I'm just pointing out possible different views and I'm not an expert in anyway so take what I say at your own value.

[ZERO]

No I did not hear of the threats made against the school. That is even more outrageous! The children are innocent and on top of that violence will not solve anything. Send complaints to the school and messages to the government but not bombs or violence. Resorting to violence is just, if not more evil than taking advantage of children!

[ZERO]

With regard to truth, once again Truth is a fact that is governed by reality. It is a fact that gravity holds us to the earth, that I am sitting in a chair that electricity powers my lights. Another example of truth; "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." As I have said many times before the truth is what stands along as our founding fathers put it "self-evident". Truth may be covered up by the cloak of evil and deception however it does not remove it from existence, and long after the ones holding on so tightly to the cloak have vanished the truth will still remain. In a world surrounded by so many cloaks it may be difficult to locate the wizard of oz but that does not mean that he is not there.

Two great quotes that I have always remembered ever since childhood:
"The truth points to itself" -Kosh
"No one here is exactly what they appear" -G'Kar

Also yes those seriously are from an old tv show. A joke I sometimes tell myself: all the knowledge in the word with no wisdom is the perfect definition of a knowledgeable fool they may know everything but they are no more useful than a book. Logically this leads people to say well knowledge is all over but where can wisdom be found? Well the best part of wisdom is that you require nothing but yourself! Knowledge you learn but wisdom you practice.

Interestingly enough the activity we are engaged in right now is one that propagates wisdom. Although it is gained though you it can always be nurtured though intelligent discourse. "And isn't it a bad thing to be deceived about the truth, and a good thing to know what the truth is? For I assume that by knowing the truth you mean knowing things as they really are." (Plato)

I end with yet another quote so sum up my statements, also note that I found these quotes after writing my response and thus my previous statements are not based off these quotes but my own personal understanding of the issue in question. I will say however that these are some powerful quotes that probably do a better job at the answer than my own words ever could.

"Somebody who only reads newspapers and at best books of contemporary authors looks to me like an extremely near-sighted person who scorns eyeglasses. He is completely dependent on the prejudices and fashions of his times, since he never gets to see or hear anything else. And what a person thinks on his own without being stimulated by the thoughts and experiences of other people is even in the best case rather paltry and monotonous. There are only a few enlightened people with a lucid mind and style and with good taste within a century. What has been preserved of their work belongs among the most precious possessions of mankind. We owe it to a few writers of antiquity (Plato, Aristotle, etc.) that the people in the Middle Ages could slowly extricate themselves from the superstitions and ignorance that had darkened life for more than half a millennium. Nothing is more needed to overcome the modernist's snobbishness." (Albert Einstein, 1954)